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Originally posted by DerekJR321
The American people will never agree to another war. The country will spiral into chaos. Too many negatives will happen. The way I see it, the following will occur. Please remember this is just my opinion.
1) Israel strikes Iran with US backing.
2) Turkey gets fed up with Israel and attacks them.
3) Syria, Iran and Turkey (along with anyone else) go after Israel.
4) US in turn now expands their fight against Turkey and Syria
5) China, being allied with Iran, and already pissed off at us over their currency situation, dumps our debt.
6) Our economy collapses. The situation in the middle east shoots gas prices higher than ever before.
7) America retaliates against China.
8) China and Russia attack American interests in the middle east.
9) World War 3
Now again this is just simply my opinion of the situation. Frankly I don't think any of this will happen because I believe Congress and Obama would have to have balls of steel to even attempt action against Iran, simply because of American views. The man promised to get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan and yet we are in more conflict than ever before. If we (the US) did in fact get involved in more conflicts you can bet they would try and re-enact the draft, because there is frankly no one left to fight. I have friends in the military and some of them have been on 5 or more tours already!
What I would HOPE to see happen is that things simply cool off. We tell Israel if they want to go after Iran go ahead, but it will be without our support. We need to STOP getting into all these stupid conflicts for no reason. There is ZERO benefit to us as a nation. Only to a select few and of course to that troublesome little country who is our "greatest ally".
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
reply to post by Ben81
mhhhmmm.
I see.
Nice parlor switch-em game.
Any other deep knowledge you wish to bestow upon us?
Originally posted by mossme89
reply to post by Domo1
Found an archive of it:
chanarchive.org...
I took Carolan's discovery a step further utilizing the lunar-based Hebrew calendar. What I found is the tendency is for mass panics to develop in between the full moon and new moon in the second half of the 7th month on the lunar calendar which is generally equivalent to the period between Tishrei 15 and Tishrei 30 on the Hebrew calendar (usually late-October on the Gregorian calendar). During this Hebrew calendar window, the following major "panics" took place:
13 October 1857 = Panic of 1857 = 25th of Tishrei, 5618
24 September 1869 = Black Friday in 1869 = 19th of Tishrei, 5630
29 October 1929 = 1929 Stock Market Crash = 25th of Tishrei, 5690
26 October 1962 = Cuban Missile Crisis = 28th of Tishrei, 5723
24 October 1973 = Yom Kippur Arab/Israeli War = 28th of Tishrei, 5734
19 October 1987 = 1987 Black Monday Crash = 26th of Tishrei, 5748
13 October 1989 = 1989 Friday the 13th Crash = 14th of Tishrei, 5750
27 October 1997 = 1997 Asian Financial Crisis = 26th of Tishrei, 5758
24 October 2008 = 2008 Financial Crisis = 25th of Tishrei, 5769
Note that I've included in the list above the October 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis and October 1973 Arab/Israeli Yom Kippur War since, while not reflected in major stock market crashes, these historical crises were still effectively mass panics. This was signified on both occasions by the fact that the highest DEFCON nuclear alerts ever were reached during these crises, actually peaking right into the same time frame of the 7th lunar month as when the stock market crashes in 1929 and 1987 climaxed.
Also note that the 1907 Banker's Panic climaxed into late October, but the Hebrew calendar has this occurring in the first half of Cheshvan, which is usually November on the Gregorian calendar. This highlights that the use of the Hebrew calendar is not entirely accurate but provides a decent way of assessing where one is in the annual lunar calendar most years.
If people gave a crap, he never would have been voted in office.
Originally posted by R3KR
I would think if obama does this he will be impeached. But from what I have seen him do, and knowing NOBODY cares about anything anymore... he will do what ever he wants. If anyone did care or gave a single sh17 about this country, he would already be out of office.
Originally posted by R3KR
I would think if obama does this he will be impeached. But from what I have seen him do, and knowing NOBODY cares about anything anymore... he will do what ever he wants. If anyone did care or gave a single sh17 about this country, he would already be out of office.
Originally posted by warsight
I saw that coming the governments need the whole look over hear to avoid the loss of power there about to face. The people are fed up across the globe with the endless wars and corruption in every branch of governments. Don't worry a pointless war will change your view Obama wants his 2nd term and he thinks this will get it for him. IMO we should abandon Isreal and let the reap what they have sown for the last 60 years. I can see this getting bad since Iran has some nice new missile's from Russia and China to protect there air space. This isn't going to be like Iraq in the first war where we jump in when there troops are spread thin or the 2nd when sanctions left there equipment out dated and broke. They have been buying near top of the line weapons from Russia and China for years.
I am American and i am having a hard time with what the whole beef with Iran is really about. Let me guess they have oil. Sure they can make nukes but that isn't a large concern they would need 40-50 years and testing to make one that would be a concern. Its a little harder than slamming 2 80 lbs balls of uranium together in a aluminum tube like they tough back in school 20+ years ago. I bet they don't touch on nuke physics anymore.
Sad that we have been invading the starting spots of civilization over the last 10 years what are we looking for. Afganistan had the Arians ( far northern part near Turkmenistan) Iraq had the summerians and so does iran. Most will just shrug it off as nothing but its kinda fishy and i can't put my finger on it.
Originally posted by Ben81
Its time someone say ITS ENOUGHT
Originally posted by Beavers
Originally posted by Ben81
Its time someone say ITS ENOUGHT
it's enought
Originally posted by Zippidee
I wonder if they anticipate provocation? I live west of Dayton Air Force Base (appx 65 miles) and every couple of weeks a pair of fighter jets fly over my property on some sort of meneuvers. Its an awesome sight and my son and I always run outside to watch them for the brief instance that they are visible. Well, with that said, this weekend we were really treated to quite the aireal show. We saw four F16's screaming by multiple times, 6 A-10 Warthogs and several Chinook Helicopters. This took place off and on all weekend. Could they be fortifying National Defence, expecting retalliation of some sort?