The 5th of November is Too Late

On November 3 & 4, our government leaders will meet at the G20 Summit in Cannes and agree, formally, what to tell us about how they're dealing with the world's woes. The decisions already have been made in 'consultation' with global corporate leaders; the first steps already taken. Already, several nations have cut supports to the aged and other severely disabled victims of the NCD Pandemic. If the Protestors accomplish anything, I hope they rescind the back-room agreements on NCD Pandemic "Response."

The world is in the middle of a killer Pandemic, and it's a key component of the escalating financial crisis. Billions are affected but patients don't die, they live for decades - exhausting and bankrupting caregivers, social welfare and health care systems, even entire nations - and threatening the global economy.

The World Economic Forum (WEF) already defined the NCD Pandemic as an economic issue, not a health issue.

The WEF analysis? Sick people cost too much money - indirectly, to health care systems and in benefits, as well as directly in lost revenues. The "economic recovery plan" is to get rid of the useless eaters. The five leading NCD's are cancer, diabetes, mental illness, heart disease, and respiratory disease; the first to be cut loose will be severely disabled people, ie., patients with Alzheimer's, dementias and other advanced NCD's who require long term care.

Chronic disease to cost $47 trillion by 2030: WEF

The global economic impact of the five leading chronic diseases -- cancer, diabetes, mental illness, heart disease, and respiratory disease -- could reach $47 trillion over the next 20 years, according to a study by the World Economic Forum (WEF). ….

"This is not a health issue, this is an economic issue ….." ……

Following the WHO's Conference on the NCD Pandemic in September, where the WEF presented it's report, several nations began implementing response actions.

The United States - terminated its "Class Act" Long-Term Care Program.

U.S. Halts Long-Term Care Program

The Obama administration said Friday it is unable to implement a long-term care insurance program that was part of the 2010 health overhaul, effectively ending the program before it started.

The initiative, known as the Class Act, was included in the law to help Americans cover the cost of aid for daily-living needs such as bathing and using the toilet if they became unable to care for themselves. Mounting concerns that the program was too costly over the long run had prompted officials at the Department of Health and Human Services to re-examine the program in recent months. …..

On ATS.

Britain - passed a law to partially dismantle social programs and begin privatizing the nation's National Health Service (NHS). The main reason is that it's too costly to provide long-term care for patients with chronic diseases.

Its affordability, the increase in long-term chronic illnesses ….and the ….affordability of elderly social care are used by some to argue for the break-up of the NHS or at least for its fundamental reform.

…..The Government has made it clear that it wants the NHS to be opened up to more competition.

On ATS: NHS Privatisation Day?; NHS Bill clears major Lords hurdles.

India - took steps to make cancer a "notifiable disease," a designation normally reserved for highly infectious diseases.

The push is in the offing since the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) has recommended to the Union health ministry to make cancer a "notifiable disease".

At present, highly infectious diseases like plague, polio, H5N1 bird flu or the H1N1 swine flu figure in the list. Cancer will become the first non-communicable disease (NCD) to be bracketed under the same category.

On ATS: Cancer to be a "Notifiable Disease" in India

So what's the story with chronic diseases? Aren't people making themseves sick?
Why make cancer a "notifiable disease"?

For starters, most chronic diseases (NCD's) are caused by infectious misfolded proteins. Research shows that infectious misfolded proteins are commonly created by industry - in vaccine and drug manufacturing, food processing, nanotechnology and other industrial activities. As a result - infectious misfolded proteins contaminate many consumer products including food, medications and personal products - and are transmissible by ingestion or on direct exposure, at least. In addition, ingested or inhaled industrial contaminants can cause proteins inside the body to misfold, become infectious and cause disease.

So most NCD's result from infectious misfolded proteins or "proteinaceous infectious particles" aka prions - most prions are created by industrial activities, including food processing, drug manufacturing and the medical industries, for example in medical imaging technologies that involve radiation exposure.

Fact is, corporate colonization turned our planet into a contaminated disease-ridden cesspool and by God, we're going to pay for it. The corporations certainly won't. ….The corporate strategy is to synchronize strategies to avoid liability, and protect business too - while managing the global population.

Step one - get rid of the really useless eaters by convincing the general public that the sick people made themselves sick. If governments cut programs and coverage for long term care, already dependent patients will die. Bonus: deficits will be reduced.

Step two - move on euthanasia policies by convincing the public that sick people have the "right to die" so they can be put out of their misery. [People who want to die can commit suicide - euthanasia policies just let others make that decision for them.] …This will get rid of the long term care survivors, and more of the elderly.

Step three - go after people with any mental health issue, not just dementia. Convince the public that everyone with any kind of mental illness is potentially dangerous. Especially if they're poor.

….Mental health, which is typically left off lists of leading NCDs, will account for $16 trillion -- a third of the overall $47 trillion anticipated costs.

….Who here is totally untouchable? No depression, no post-partum stuff, no ADHD or autistic disorders, ….?







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Step four - convince the public that NCD's are contagious. If people are afraid of other people, they're less likely to fight even more severe depopulation policies.

….India put cancer on its "notifiable disease" list because industry-created prions are infectious. There is no doubt that disease-causing misfolded proteins are infectious inside the body (that's how they cause disease), but the big questions are controversial, subjected to a mostly manufactured debate, "Are protein-related diseases contagious in the environment? Are they communicable person-to-person? Are they transmissible in any way?"

Infectious does not mean contagious. However, focusing on the possibility of contagion distracts people with fear and deflects attention away from corporate industry's role in causing the NCD Pandemic.

According to global corporate industry, our woes are economic, subject to economic solutions only. No human rights; no bleeding hearts. Profits before people. It's the Corporate Paradigm, enshrined as international law under international "free" trade agreements.

Do you honestly think they'll stop at killing sick old people?

Corporate industry created the NCD Pandemic and stuck us and our nations with the bill. We are going bankrupt, so the global corporate economy will formally take over with their Global Corporate Government to save the day. …I'm thinking they're NOT going to be handing out disability checks to the chronically debilitated billions. We'll be lucky if they create the modern equivalent of leper colonies.

All Heil the Corporate Paradigm. Or not.






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reply to post by spoonbender


Do you have a link for that quote?

lol

So who are the sick one's? Us or our leader's?We are being reduced to primitive eskimo's,that when we are infirm and can't contribute to the clan anymore we get left to die on the ice flows.
Guess pass contributions meant nothing or the fact that we are talking You, Me, our Partners,Children and Brother's and Sister's here.
You could see this day comming from the day that they coined the fraze Human Resources for working the stiff's.

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Here's the general overview, with stats.

NCDs have become a universal threat. They kill three in five people a year...in 2011... Roughly a third will be younger than 60. Even larger numbers of people are living disabled by these illnesses.

Things got a bit worse between 2010 and 2011.

Noncommunicable diseases (NCDs) are the leading causes of death globally, killing more people each year than all other causes combined. ….

Of the 57 million deaths that occurred globally in 2008, 36 million – almost two thirds – were due to NCDs, comprising mainly cardiovascular diseases, cancers, diabetes and chronic lung diseases.1 The combined burden of these diseases is rising fastest among lower-income countries, populations and communities, where they impose large, avoidable costs in human, social and economic terms. About one fourth of global NCD-related deaths take place before the age of 60.

The writing was on the wall in 2000, and long before, as it happens. And you're right - the poor carry the burden, not the rich.

…..even in 2000, ….NCDs had emerged as a major cause of inequity, as a major cause of premature death and disability and as a major impediment in the fight against poverty.

…..cash-strapped governments, health systems and businesses, still recovering from the continuing financial crisis, are all in intense fiscal consolidation mode. More important, the problem and its cure seem much too broad. The NCD pandemic is not caused by an identifiable virus but from the same technological and economic progress that has enabled major population growth and helped address significant health problems of the past. These problems are now overshooting the limits of human biology, as the NCD pandemic is spreading faster among the poor than the rich.

Are we coming to a time when these people will be put in a category of incurable, too costly to maintain, or otherwise beyond hope? Is that being done now? What of the people who are poor and do not have the resources to pay for expensive and questionable chemo-therapy and radiation for treatment of cancer? And what about those who would have otherwise been eligible for Obama's Class Act which he talked about but apparently never had? I am also curious about India's notifiable disease list, are these people considered infectious, contagious, or otherwise dangerous to the general population? Are they set aside for special treatment programs or just those who government medical science want to give up on? Are these the ones who will be considered eligible for "right to die" provisions, or will everyone have a right to die? What about a right to live?

The reason I am asking all this is because there are other medical and therapeutic options outside mainstream medicine that claim to have some hope for handling these conditions. There would be a danger to opening the door to all sorts of quackery, but essentially mainstream medicine and modern pharma are full of quackery as well - they promise to take your money but promise no "cure" nor that the medicines prescribed in these questionable therapies will be safe. Many, many times in the past few years I have seen medicines pulled from the shelves because of some newly-discovered dangers. How could this happen given the extensive testing and years it takes to get a new drug to market? With the best systems in-place there is no guarantee of either the effectiveness or safety of a treatment.

So, for those of whom there is no longer hope should they be left aside because modern medicine can offer them little or nothing? Should they be continued to be denied "alternative" therapies that modern medicine wishes to ignore and just left to die? Or should they also be allowed the right to live and try these alternatives? What would they or their families have to lose in that case, their money? I doubt that is the concern of the medical profession, those professionals may be concerned with the money they themselves could potentially lose but the financial well-being of those "hopeless" patients is far from their area of concern. If you have the money modern medicine will continue to provide every hospital comfort and every uncomfortable treatment they could come up with right to the very end, the very of of their patient's life or their finances.

No, it sounds like government-approved medicine has a class of folks they are giving up on. We need to let them have access to any folk remedy, experimental therapy, every restricted or unproven medicine there is available. If there is no other hope then what do these people really have to lose? In this way we may find some hope in alternative therapies, some that otherwise would be ignored by corporate medicine. We may find cures from places unexpected. We may find some comfort, even temporary, for these folks that are otherwise being discarded. Finding such relief could be a great comfort to this growing part of the population but it could the the bane of the corporate and government-approved medical industry. I don't give a damn about protecting these corporate interests, I care about my own butt.

There will soon come a day when we will have to tend to our own concerns and it appears that day is now upon us.

reply to post by soficrow


Georgia Guidestones bro. Its all about the Georgia Guidestones and the global elite's bid to reduce the worlds population down to 500 million (or is it 500k?).

They have deemed that the rest of humanity is not worth letting live so theyre going to hit the reset button, and part of poisoning us with prions is part of the plan.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
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Georgia Guidestones bro. Its all about the Georgia Guidestones and the global elite's bid to reduce the worlds population down to 500 million (or is it 500k?).

They have deemed that the rest of humanity is not worth letting live so theyre going to hit the reset button, and part of poisoning us with prions is part of the plan.

And denying us remedies and relief outside of their prescribed system is another part of their plan, I believe.

Everybody should be getting training in general medical practices in public school, as is done in Cuba. Surgeons require specialized training but general medicine is something we should all know. Put an end to their exclusive club and begin wiping our own butts, it's that simple.

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Are we coming to a time when these people will be put in a category of incurable, too costly to maintain, or otherwise beyond hope? Is that being done now?

Done, and moving forward. First, support programs are termination. Next, what? Euthanasia policies? After that? Maybe (totally ill-informed) eugenics policies and quarantine?

What of the people who are poor and do not have the resources to pay for expensive and questionable chemo-therapy and radiation for treatment of cancer?

And the people who can't afford to pay for decent food and clean water? ......They're SOL.

Interesting. A minute ago I was at a site where I read this story about Alzheimers being contagious. I find this highly unlikely considering the countless hours I spent caring for family members. If it were possible I should have had it for years.
Scary when the population plans seem to steam on in the open.

I cannot honestly say that I saw this coming as in a prophetic sense but in a loosely fitted way it is the final result. Do you know why? When economics dominates the discussion of a society, becomes its core matter of debate perhaps even the most important subject of all, we have established economy as the end-all. When economy is viewed more as a positive than the most disgusting and mutated form of deprived humanity, the absolute ‘necessary evil’, is when problems arise.

The problems usually encircle around the idea of commodities, everything is turned into a commodity. First it is reaches beyond typical commodities such as foods you cannot grow yourself and items you cannot create yourself to things which man can ordinarily create for him then it mutates further and further until it reaches at point wherein all things become a commodity. We can observe this in the rapid growth of the sex-slave trade which has spiked since the 1990s. When human beings become nothing more than a commodity which can be bought and sold we become slaves, slaves to the economic system we built and the absolute slaves to the ones that have been enshrined in the position of power within the economic system.

Is it any wonder corporations grew to such size? They are a natural result of commodification and with them great concentrations of wealth then power occur. See, within an egalitarian ‘democratic’ system wealth creates power whereas in almost all other recorded system power creates wealth. By reciting the religious hymns of equality we have in fact created one of the most disgustingly unequal societies in human history. Never before have so few owned so much and with the majority having no land, no real ability to keep them alive, this is the natural consequence of capitalism, liberalism (read below), and globalization.

Now, they may come to the conclusion that the people who suffer most from their destructive ways must be terminated. See, this is the mentality which prevails when everything becomes a commodity. It no longer holds anything special in meaning or being, all is replaceable, all is for sale. And man will be treated no better than a deer by a hunter; we are that deer and the economic elite are the hunters. You are replaceable, you mean absolutely nothing at all, your sick parents or sick child is nothing but a burden on them who they view as disposable. All sense of humanity and nature has been removed; we have entered the final stages of our own death.

How ironic is it that as the leaves fall from the trees and the plants die off for the winter that our leaders now are set to organize with a plan in hand to bring upon us the winter of our lives.

*By Liberal I do not mean just modern Liberal I mean the entire acceptance of Communism, Socialism, Liberalism (political), Conservatism (Neoconservatism), and Libertarianism; anyone who accepts the Western construct of liberal democratic capitalism or internationalist democratic socialism.*

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Originally posted by stephinrazin
Interesting. A minute ago I was at a site where I read this story about Alzheimers being contagious. I find this highly unlikely considering the countless hours I spent caring for family members. If it were possible I should have had it for years.
Scary when the population plans seem to steam on in the open.

Infectious does NOT mean contagious. Infectious misfolded proteins are infectious to similar proteins inside the body, like in Mad Cow disease. Which what the article actually says. And fyi - the results aren't that surprising at all - it's been known for years.

....according to surprising results from a new study. "Some of the sporadic Alzheimer's cases may arise from an infectious process" similar to mad cow disease, a researcher says.

.......but diseases like this DO take years to develop, often decades - they can be "sporadic" or spontaneous (meaning normal proteins in the body misfolded in response to an environmental perturbation or assault), "familial" (meaning inherited through DNA, passed on in the womb, or acquired from the same place as other family members), or "acquired" (meaning the source of infection is known as contaminated food or medical device or medication).

reply to post by Misoir

Now, they may come to the conclusion that the people who suffer most from their destructive ways must be terminated. See, this is the mentality which prevails when everything becomes a commodity. It no longer holds anything special in meaning or being, all is replaceable, all is for sale. And man will be treated no better than a deer by a hunter; we are that deer and the economic elite are the hunters. You are replaceable, you mean absolutely nothing at all, your sick parents or sick child is nothing but a burden on them who they view as disposable. All sense of humanity and nature has been removed; we have entered the final stages of our own death.

You posted while I was writing and I almost missed your post. Worth repeating, S&

But imho, we can be chattel - or we can fight. Perhaps just rail against the final darkening of the light, but make some noise! Whimpering is too ...submissive. Pathetic. Too quiet.

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"This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper."
- T.S. Eliot, 'The Hollow Men'


My opinion is that we will not go out how T.S. Eliot says, when has Western man even just given up? We will fight until there is not one man standing, end of story. This is not the first nor will it be the last threat to us as a civilization. I have no comment on the rest of the world but believe most peoples will not surrender either. When this all comes to a head we will win, we always do.

The question then becomes how we correct the problem which brought us here in the first place. For those who say it was capitalism, nope that is too simple. For this who claim it is corporations, nope that is too simple. For those who claim it is democracy, nope that is too simple. The problem arose from Western culture, somewhere in it a horrible cancer emerged, and then we took to imperialist ways and forced liberal democracy with globalist capitalism on other cultures in the world. When the final war ends we must route out what was the cancer which caused the problem that is embedded in our civilization.

I would suggest people branch out in their reading; the modernist left/right paradigm of thought is a failure and a fraud. For me I have begun reading Alain de Benoist, the leader of the intellectual Nouvelle Doire. He claims the problem arose within Christianity, I would argue that this is in part correct although I see Protestantism more as the most alien culture to traditional European man, because it enforced a foreign culture from Judea which believed in one God thus only one truth for the entire world. This could arguably have been the creation of ideology as well. But within Christianity there were two components at odds with Europeans who are naturally Pagan, which is the belief in individual salvation and that nature is a fallen entity from a God who is above nature.

There is no link to the book which talks about this but you can read some pretty insightful reviews of this work here.

Originally posted by soficrow

And the people who can't afford to pay for decent food and clean water? ......They're SOL.

Assuming the persons can afford adequate nutrition and shelter their medical needs can reverse that in an instant. When the body is in pain and needs relief that becomes the all-consuming necessity. Withholding innexpensive treatment options is the way to gouge the people and put them and their families in the poor house. The "right to die" to save the family from financial ruin looks like a better option for many even if they do not feel like giving up. In that case they may decide to sacrifice themselves for the good of their loved ones.

Big business does not care how much you hurt unless they can cash in on your pain. Unfortunately that is today's medical industry from the business standpoint. Administering cures just doesn't grease the industry gears.

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Great, thoughtfull responses. Thank you.

…..Sorry for not responding earlier, I seem to have bitten off more than I can chew. Again.

It came clear to me that nations are already cutting loose the elderly and severely disabled. ..The chronic disease NCD Pandemic is way out of control, and costing a fortune. So everyone's abdicating responsibility, throwing the sick to the wolves. Started a thread on it, got caught up. (Sick People, Not Corporate Greed, Causing Financial Crisis) See you there?