Emails Expose #OccupyWallStreet Conspiracy to ‘Destabalize’ Global Markets, Governments

reply to post by jibeho


Is propaganda jibeho, if you have been following the economy and the markets along with the derivative crap that greedy big to fail institutions got away with involving central banks you know that the Destabilization of Global Markets has been going on since 2008,.

With 600 trillions of derivatives still circulating and getting bigger and bigger because the greedy bastards in the markets were never regulated the global markets are going down and is no stopping regardless of the trillions of dollars that has been infused into them.

look at the new bailout for the EU, 3 more trillion dollars that until yesterday were only 400 billions, guess where the most of the money is coming from, as Gehiner told CNBC this morning, Throught the IMF the Fed will be doing its funding, so if the EU will put the 400 billion I guess the rest is as usual the Fed unacounted funding.

The fat rats are causing the Global Markets destabilization no the protesters.the are using now the protest to blame anybody but themselves.

Fat rats are dirty corrupted and without shame.

Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by AzureSky

 

Why are we at war right now? Can anyone answer this for me? I know why, but i want to hear what others have to say.

I'd like to know also. I'd also like to know why we went into LIbya with guns blazing. Ask these guys and the UN and our President who have climbed on board along with other key nations. Study their crisis map and look at the current climate in these pinpointed countries and regions.

www.responsibilitytoprotect.org...

They forgot to add that the big oil companies have moved in to build infrastructure to rob the countries of their black gold. I think, unless its buried in that site somewhere.
Im not opposed to peacekeeping or anything, like, actual peacekeeping. But we went in guns blazing, killing everything and everyone. Do some role reversal and imagine china is occupying america, and sending out military to kill 'insurgents'. The 'insurgents' are protecting their homeland from an invading entity.. War on terrorism is never going to and, because bombs keep falling, and more insurgents come up to try to defend their homeland and families.
Can't wait for the future, or to die. Because society as i see it now is falling apart. People i hope are awakening to the reality of the situation. Because its all been short term goals for the last 50 years. Need to start thinking of the long term goals.

Originally posted by PrimalWisdom
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Oh I know what lies ahead if global finances crumble. Rebuilding from scratch and a lot of hard work. Yes it will be tough, but the current system cannot continue as it has been for so many years.
Bring it on I'm ready for a challenge!

Who has the resources to rebuild after complete collapse? The people protesting who think they have nothing or think that everything should be given to them? Those who are dependent on the very institution they abhor will be left in the dust. A different elite class is steering this movement and it is this class that is wringing their hands to seize control.

This group

The Open Society Foundations work to build vibrant and tolerant democracies whose governments are accountable to their citizens. To achieve this mission, the Foundations seek to shape public policies that assure greater fairness in political, legal, and economic systems and safeguard fundamental rights. On a local level, the Open Society Foundations implement a range of initiatives to advance justice, education, public health, and independent media. At the same time, we build alliances across borders and continents on issues such as corruption and freedom of information. The Foundations place a high priority on protecting and improving the lives of people in marginalized communities.

Is also the driving force in the RTP movement that has worked its way into our government, the United Nations and beyond. Its branch organizations and recipients of its money are partially behind the OWS movement as well. These are the elite who will have the resources to rebuild anything. Not you or me.

reply to post by jibeho

We have much more aggresive anarchists here in the EU and its naïve to think they could destabilize the global economy.
They can wreak havoc to some degree but they never achieved more than mere property damage and bruises.
Thats nothing compared to the damage the kleptocrats caused all around the world.

Now that you pointed your finger at those left wing activists among OWS, who seem to pursue an anarchist agenda, where is the constructive part?

Assuming that you oppose the corruption and malpractice that is going on in the current system, what would you suggest liberal, libertarian or conservative protesters to do, besides joining the protest to make sure those anarchists remain a minority?

reply to post by marg6043


I don't deny that. I see what has been written in the emails and I see a movement that is poised to kick and keep kicking while the man is down. Lions take down the big prey for a morning meal and the vultures and hyenas come in after to clean up the mess.

Be very aware of tipping points and events that lead up to a final push.

Originally posted by jibeho

Originally posted by PrimalWisdom
reply to post by jibeho

 

Oh I know what lies ahead if global finances crumble. Rebuilding from scratch and a lot of hard work. Yes it will be tough, but the current system cannot continue as it has been for so many years.
Bring it on I'm ready for a challenge!

Who has the resources to rebuild after complete collapse? The people protesting who think they have nothing or think that everything should be given to them? Those who are dependent on the very institution they abhor will be left in the dust. A different elite class is steering this movement and it is this class that is wringing their hands to seize control.

This group

The Open Society Foundations work to build vibrant and tolerant democracies whose governments are accountable to their citizens. To achieve this mission, the Foundations seek to shape public policies that assure greater fairness in political, legal, and economic systems and safeguard fundamental rights. On a local level, the Open Society Foundations implement a range of initiatives to advance justice, education, public health, and independent media. At the same time, we build alliances across borders and continents on issues such as corruption and freedom of information. The Foundations place a high priority on protecting and improving the lives of people in marginalized communities.

Is also the driving force in the RTP movement that has worked its way into our government, the United Nations and beyond. Its branch organizations and recipients of its money are partially behind the OWS movement as well. These are the elite who will have the resources to rebuild anything. Not you or me.

These resources you talk about, Is money. Money should not exist as we see it today in a fractional reserve currency, debt. Thats all it is. WE, AS A SPECIES. Own all the resources. This is our planet, not the people who are robbing said resources and building stupid crap with them. We have more than enough resources to rebuild. We need to start applying advances in technology to this process and it would be much easier. Machines can build anything. And we have synthetic materials stronger than steel. We can build.
As for food? Hydroponic or waterculture (i think thats what its called?) as opposed to totalitarian agriculture.
Free school? That would be great too. Youth could go to school, and study what they want instead of having to go to school to 'get fake money that has no real worth other than in a failed system we're in', innovation is stifled by big business and corporations, much like the electric car. Im sure there are other prime examples of this too. We have the tech to revolutionize society.. But theres no profit in that.

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Is a problem something most be going on wrong because after the Invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan the two countries are still in shambles, the only ones that has been profiting are the big defense contract firms at the expenses of tax payers.

It is greed what is ruling the take over of the middle east destabilization and resources take over it has nothing to do with helping the people at all or the countries.

Beside the agenda for the middle east was on the table of the greedy bastard profiters for decades.

reply to post by jibeho

We’re in this for the long haul. There are no “solutions” that can be presented quickly to make us go away. And so there will be moments where our presence is no longer an uncomfortable and unknown variable, but rather is normalized and integrated. It’s in those moments that we have to push the envelop [sic], pry open the space of possibility even farther. We go as far as we can to destabalize [sic], but maintain momentum. And when that’s the new “normal” then we go farther. That’s how change happens, how we shift the terrain and the terms of the game.

biggovernment.com

Not seeing the problem here...
People within the movement are communicating OMG!

reply to post by jibeho


jibeho, I see a very gloom future coming our way, yes you are right, it is going to be a whole new world once the markets finally collapse.

Because, the electronic gamble going on right now to keep the EU afloat is just that, nothing but a gamble, no money just a push of a button moving none existent funds around.

The paperless and mony less society has a completed different meaning when it comes to how funds are transfer within the Markets and the Fed.

Originally posted by Cloudsinthesky
I think we all knew that this had to be the case............I honestly feel we only have one chance for change without violence............I did not vote for Paul the last round......I thought he was a nut......plus I question anyone who has been in the political circle as long as he has........

So I guess you could say that nut cracked and the truth has beeen revealed in the past few years.......

I think he is the only vote that could "potentially" save what "we" know as America.....

Paul supporters need to hit the streets and take over the Occupy movement........which would probably lead to more violence.........

I didn't vote for Ron Paul the last round either, but I definitely am this time, even if he doesn't win the nomination. I feel he is our only chance at saving the country and avoiding riots and violence. In good conscience I cannot vote for anybody else and then see the chaos that follows.

So, Ron Paul 2012, and if he doesn't win the GOP, I will write him in anyway.

As for OWS, I support their movement as well. I don't care how or why they started, and I don't care that they seem to be ideologically opposed to my beloved Tea Party. I admire them for being out there, taking some action, drawing some attention, and being involved. I hope their momentum continues, and I hope they do bring down the banking industry!! I know at least 2 people that switched from Bank of America to a Credit Union this week!

reply to post by marg6043

Originally posted by marg6043
[...] the only ones that has been profiting are the big defense contract firms at the expenses of tax payers. [...]

Military Professional Resources Inc.: Revenue increase (in 2010) $15.680 billion.

The phony, manufactured, "Occupy" movement is similar to the Jihad Spring in Egypt.

Behind the socialists, anarchists, and communists, the jihadists are quietly moving, quietly whispering into the ears of the kuffar. Given time, they will emerge and then the Jihad in America can begin in earnest.

Do not be deceived further. Occupy conceals Jihad.

reply to post by mike_trivisonno


Occupy does not conceal jihad.

The only thing creating an environment for jihad in the US is our stupid political correctness movement. If we get rid of that, jihad doesn't stand a chance.

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I hope you are right.

reply to post by jibeho
Brilliant thread. S&F

Without sounding too stupid (I know, it's hard for me) where does the trail end?
I know I can read, and probably should, but I've been speculating about it ending in the White House.

Gonna hafta visit the Bigs.

Beez

I think in a couple of weeks the OWS movement will wake the sleepers up and the monitary system will be seen for the fraud it is and always has been.

Just a coincedence friday week after next will be October 28, 2011 and that is what I think will happen on the magic date.

Here is the big release of the emails. You'll have to download it. I have just started going through it.

This is the back story

On August 10, 2011, the hacker group “Anonymous” announced that it would join the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations. That’s what sparked my interest in monitoring #OccupyWallStreet.

I reached out to a colleague and asked if he would be interested in studying the protest with me. At first, it seemed disorganized, and we believed it would only be a few hundred protestors.

As we engaged in monitoring its growth, we recruited other people to help us begin the collection of data available via social media. We began mapping out key players, and monitored Anonymous’s efforts to organize protests in the San Francisco Bay area public transportation system (#opBART) in order to detect patterns and key influencers.

Then, at the end of August, we were alerted by a fellow researcher that information about USDoR (U.S. Day of Rage, to which Occupy Wall Street is connected) had been posted on Shamuk and Al-Jahad, two Al-Qaeda recruitment sites. We began to take the “Occupy” protest more seriously, and dedicated more time to research and monitoring.

Days later, Anonymous announced that it would be releasing its new DDOS (Distributed Denial of Service) tool. Because of the Al-Qaeda posting, we contacted the New York Field Office of the FBI so they could investigate the potential threat. From that point on, we decided we needed to include the Human Element of Intelligence (HUMINT), and to infiltrate the protestors to map their ties to Anonymous, and to the postings on Shamuk and Al-Jahad.

So, these researchers penetrated the group and were able to be added to the "occupy" mailing lists. Hence the archive that we now have.

In addition to the involvement of socialists, anarchists, and other radicals, the emails also reveal heavy union involvement from the beginning of the “Occupy” movement, as well as discussion about the role of the Democratic Party, and how the movement should respond to President Barack Obama.

The emails also reveal that the Occupation attempted to provoke the New York Police Department prior to some of the clashes that occurred with activists.

Additionally, the emails reveal the many failed efforts of the hacker collective Anonymous. If those efforts had succeeded, they may have damaged the global economy.

Email archive link at the bottom of the article
biggovernment.com...

In light of all of this, I am just as confused as most of the protesters. Most of which have no clue to the fact that they are being used as tools. I need more time to sort it all out.

The global economy is crashing, and will be dead soon, without the help of anyone only the greedy pockets of the top 0.004% (or so).
Those e-mails could be fabricated, and most likely are. People have to organize, so they did so through e-mail lists..my local occupy does it, and theres nothing about alCIA-da there.

Originally posted by AzureSky
The global economy is crashing, and will be dead soon, without the help of anyone only the greedy pockets of the top 0.004% (or so).
Those e-mails could be fabricated, and most likely are. People have to organize, so they did so through e-mail lists..my local occupy does it, and theres nothing about alCIA-da there.

Have you read the email, or are you ignoring that your group may be just one big lie.

I'm very worried about all that is occurring. I knew that the protest movement was being used by people with far greater goals in mind rather than overhauling our economic system. The protestors seem to be a bunch of disenfranchised people that are fed up with the current state of affairs but they don't seem to be aware that they are being taken advantage of. I realized that weeks ago when I did a little digging and found that Adbusters was responsible for kicking things off. That little group is far from being disorganized and are very much in control of their agenda. This is a much more dangerous situation than most people recognize. And the really sad part is that all of the protestors are so far invested into their campaign that they probably wouldn't care to hear the truth or else they are willing to give up anything and everything to be victorious. Even if it meant losing what little they have left.

Change does need to be made but at this rate it seems we stand to lose so much more than we gain...the alternative might make these days of hardship seem like the good old days. What we need is a counter-movement.