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New York (CNN) -- A cleaning planned for the Manhattan park where "Occupy Wall Street" protesters have camped out for weeks has been postponed, a move that averts a showdown between demonstrators and police.
The New York mayor's office said Brookfield Properties, the owners of Zuccotti Park, told the city late Thursday the scheduled cleaning is off for now and "for the time being" they are "withdrawing their request" made earlier in the week for police assistance during the cleaning operation.
i dont think they want too look like they caused the 'showdown' seems to me that most things the police have been doing is trying to start a showdown, they just want the protesters to make the first move and if they have gone in knowing that people arent going to leave it could look like they caused it.. i hope the protesters never move! the longer they stay the more people that wake up.
Originally posted by WeBrooklyn
Was wondering last night what the conversation must have been like between Bloomberg, Kelly and Bloomfield. They must have realized those tactics werent going to work here. It could have turned very ugly and judging the way they handled things last time, they probably knew they were in over their heads. For 700 arrests last time, they have everyone scattered at different precincts because there wasnt enough room. Imagine twice that amount in a matter of hours
Civil disobedience is the active, professed refusal to obey certain laws, demands, and commands of a government, or of an occupying international power. Civil disobedience is commonly, though not always,[1][2] defined as being nonviolent resistance. It is one form of civil resistance. In one view (in India, known as ahimsa or satyagraha) it could be said that it is compassion in the form of respectful disagreement. One of its earliest massive implementations was brought about by Egyptians against the British occupation in the 1919 Revolution.[3] Civil disobedience is one of the many ways people have rebelled against what they deem to be unfair laws.
Totalitarianism (or totalitarian rule) is a political system where the state recognizes no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible.[1] Totalitarian regimes stay in political power through an all-encompassing propaganda disseminated through the state-controlled mass media, a single party that is often marked by personality cultism, control over the economy, regulation and restriction of speech, mass surveillance, and widespread use of terror.
Despotism is a form of government in which a single entity rules with absolute power. That entity may be an individual, as in an autocracy, or it may be a group, as in an oligarchy.
An autocracy is a form of government in which one person possesses unlimited power.
Oligarchy (from Greek ὀλιγαρχία, oligarkhía[1]) is a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people. These people could be distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, corporate, or military control.
Authoritarianism is a form of social organization characterized by submission to authority. It is usually opposed to individualism and democracy.
reply to post by muzzleflash
Civil disobedience is the active, professed refusal to obey certain laws, demands, and commands of a government, or of an occupying international power. Civil disobedience is commonly, though not always,[1][2] defined as being nonviolent resistance. It is one form of civil resistance. In one view (in India, known as ahimsa or satyagraha) it could be said that it is compassion in the form of respectful disagreement. One of its earliest massive implementations was brought about by Egyptians against the British occupation in the 1919 Revolution.[3] Civil disobedience is one of the many ways people have rebelled against what they deem to be unfair laws. Please people study this stuff: civil disobediance wiki Civil disobedience isn't a crime! It's True patriotism! It's what Freedom is all about. Read these links folks. Who is the enemy? I will show you who it really is. Totalitarianism Totalitarianism (or totalitarian rule) is a political system where the state recognizes no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible.[1] Totalitarian regimes stay in political power through an all-encompassing propaganda disseminated through the state-controlled mass media, a single party that is often marked by personality cultism, control over the economy, regulation and restriction of speech, mass surveillance, and widespread use of terror. Spraying people or beating them up in the street (as police authority) spreads terror in the civilians, it causes them to FEAR protesting because they will be brutalized. It's straight up politically driven terrorism by it's very definition. State-funded terror at that... Despotism Despotism is a form of government in which a single entity rules with absolute power. That entity may be an individual, as in an autocracy, or it may be a group, as in an oligarchy. Autocracy An autocracy is a form of government in which one person possesses unlimited power. Oligarchy Oligarchy (from Greek ὀλιγαρχία, oligarkhía[1]) is a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people. These people could be distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, corporate, or military control. Authoritarianism Authoritarianism is a form of social organization characterized by submission to authority. It is usually opposed to individualism and democracy. You know what "Libertarian" actually means? Liberty=Freedom Arian = Advocate of. "Anarchy"? An = against Archy = rule That's why I am a Libertarian Anarchist, because I am an advocate of freedom and I am also against being ruled by others.
reply to post by ShortMemory
i think it will take a lot to make them back down now, and even if they do have to leave its only going to make more people NEED change..anything they do to stop this will only prove us right and help our cause..this is probably only the first battle in what may be a long war. well its almost everywhere in the us now, and thats perfect. when its on peoples doorsteps they will think about it more. but yeah it would be great to have them almost everywhere..cant have the police everywhere at once so spreading our numbers would help a lot its about time we stood up for ourself, nothing ever stays the same for too long and its obvious modern society has evolved to the 'tipping' point of social change viva la revolution!
reply to post by AnonymousFem
Thank goodness it has been postponed for now. I was kinda worried coming on here and members posting footage of major violence over in New York. I have a feeling this might be a ploy to, wait until there are less people there. Then Act, this has not stopped the NYPD from harassing the protestors there. Or Independent Journalists. But thank goodness the owners have withdrawn their request. I am wondering could the Mayor just go ahead with it without the request?
Originally posted by AnonymousFem
reply to post by WeBrooklyn
You know it is completely shocking to outsiders, when the US Government Officials go on the TV and condemn other Governments around the world for doing the exact same thing the Police are doing in other occupied places in the US. Just shows, the double standards there is.
reply to post by AnonymousFem
You know it is completely shocking to outsiders, when the US Government Officials go on the TV and condemn other Governments around the world for doing the exact same thing the Police are doing in other occupied places in the US. Just shows, the double standards there is.
Originally posted by WeBrooklyn
reply to post by ShortMemory
i think it will take a lot to make them back down now, and even if they do have to leave its only going to make more people NEED change..anything they do to stop this will only prove us right and help our cause..this is probably only the first battle in what may be a long war. well its almost everywhere in the us now, and thats perfect. when its on peoples doorsteps they will think about it more. but yeah it would be great to have them almost everywhere..cant have the police everywhere at once so spreading our numbers would help a lot its about time we stood up for ourself, nothing ever stays the same for too long and its obvious modern society has evolved to the 'tipping' point of social change viva la revolution!
I do believe it is going to get worse. Look at Occupy Denver, cops were tearing down tents and literally shutting things down. To me it seems the Mayors in some cities in under a month are really getting fed up with this movement and starting to give eviction deadlines.
Revolution is great but its how you go about it....