A question.

reply to post by Krono


No problem, dude
Here, we have to filter ourselves, kinda makes it more civilised.
That's why ATS is so

Back to aliens....
This Thread is a similar one we had last year?
But you get the drift.
I remember some anthropologist stating that all advanced species are bipedal humanoid types, so no green slugs or whatever

How would you like your proof to be ? Moving pictures or still images ? Your purpose for needing the proof is ?

reply to post by watchdog8110


Any proof will do, preferebly from a scientist.

The purpose for me wanting proof? Purely curiosity.

Hmmmm . I hope when you do get the proof you need your head won't pop from trying to understand it . It does get taxing at times asking wtf .

reply to post by watchdog8110


Well, some of the vids/pics on here of UFO's might be legit. I forgot to mention, in my OPINION, based on no facts what so ever, I believe aliens exist and I believe the governments have covered alien stories countless of times.

reply to post by Krono


I have seen a picture of an alien that I am convinced was 100% real. I cannot say where or how I saw it and unfortunately I was unable to get a copy of it. Before that time I did not believe in aliens. Kinda messed with my head when I first saw it. Take this for what it is worth.

If by chance you ever see one for yourself . What ever you do , do not write NASA and ask them what it is . Your chances of getting a conclusive answer is like winning the lottery .

Originally posted by watchdog8110
If by chance you ever see one for yourself . What ever you do , do not write NASA and ask them what it is . Your chances of getting a conclusive answer is like winning the lottery .

Yea they'll say "oh its just a weather balloon".

Nah, if I saw an alien, I'd kick it in the nuts and ask it some questions.

reply to post by Krono


I applaud your curiosity.
I have, personally, never seen an alien OR a UFO.
I've seen some wierd lights etc, but i am also a bit of a lighting expert, so i know what tricks can be played with light. Or like those 'chinese lanterns' filled with LED's
I have had some vivid dreams of being abducted, and have always hoped i would meet them, i have a zillion questions for them, and they may have full access to my mind, and marbe some DNA, as long as it's painless
Nevertheless, i believe they exist, and are here now.
I believe i know why they are here, and the next move is ours...
Just my opinion.

If you saw it on one of their live feeds from the ISS and taped it then saw the same vid feed altered later . Thats when you say WTH it isn't like the one that you have taped . Ain't no weather balloon .

As far as still images go , I would assume that you can tell when it has been stretch out as compared to the surrounding area . ( Lunar photos )

Ah snap need to go get smokes .

Originally posted by Krono
reply to post by Gazrok

 

Yes we would.

But we would probaly saying, "oh what are the bloody government up to and what are they going to do?". Or people may be debating about different types/species of aliens spotted.

I, for one, sincerely hope we won't get contact with ET's for about 50-100years. Purely cause, us humans, are bastards. The ET's may come along and say hello, then the US government would fire a nuke and that could be bye bye for us humans. (I said the US Government cause they like to think they rule the world. In that case, those #ers can defend Earth).

But yea, in 50-100years, we will have better and more advanced weaponry which may give us a fighting chance. Orrrrrr I could be wrong, and we could embrace them.

Why would we have a chance 50-100 years from now? Logically speaking if we aren't capable of defending ourselves now 50-100 years from now wouldn't they just be further along then us? Technology doesn't really have any boundaries, you can keep on pushing it. Which like humans I assume any ET would also do.

Fact is, if aliens ever go to war with us, we are utterly screwed. I think the likely outcome would be a massive wipe out of most of us, followed by an ultimatum.

When your bored enough and your curiosity needs feeding . Open your google earth program , click it to the moon view and from the Lambert crater left and down ( all through that area ) you will see the stretched images at roughly 21k altitude .

P.S. Make sure your wearing your tin foil hat too .

Maybe you'll like the Levittown, Puerto Rico police UFO photo, 1980. If it's hoax, it was likely perpetrated by whomever constructed and operated whatever this thing is, not by the officer who snapped ten polaroids at the scene in front of witnesses. This shows the bottom of the thing, photographed from below with a police camera.

www.ufoevidence.org...

reply to post by Krono


We have better than photos.
Real people have meet real aliens.
Eisenhower, the Hills, Travis Walton and Billy Meier met real aliens according
to someone's story perhaps.

Lazar saw a saucer wobble off the ground in some secret base.
Lazar saw the inside control panel and vision system
Walton saw three types of shapes of ship in a secret base.
Billy Meier made 8mm film of saucer like woks jump around close to the ground.
The wok type was seen in flight by Lyne and thinks his father saw the Oval type
that knocked out car headlights by physical/electrical vibrations.
Wok type or clam shell type was seen by hundreds in Mexico caught on video.
And a whole bunch more types and witnesses but no known ETs except in movies.
ED: you forgot private property protected by the government because, if you
think about its performance, the ship utilizes free energy, our only proof FE
exists and why ETS and the ships can't be found or FE talked about as real.

They do not let you photo them. I'm not even sure how abductions take place, as I was put to sleep, in a physical one with wounds. I was given the choice, and felt this primal fear and chose sleep. But if we eliminate the military co-op type ones, which do happen, and some may be of that nature, so a true ET, and its physical not just astral, this is my assumption of how its done.

We're basically akin to lower frequency 4d as it is. There are infinite frequencies. So if you are touched or altered they can take you physically. I'm not sure your equipment would work, and pretty sure you'd be in an altered state, if you have memories of these moments, not able to do anything. Most people are paralyzed. The other kind of ETs also use helpers to take you, as in Miriam Delicado's case, and you would be also in an altered state. You are 100% not in control of any of this, and they have 100% the remotes. Ie. you contain the infinite universe within, and your brain is like a dvd player/computer playing the dvd. That would take us into the Quantum level reality really operates on, and the infinity platform we're all in, the never ending story, trying to progress. Time is just a program. They just have pause the recording. Of course this is truly higher level ones that do this.

Good luck with trying to photo them. I've seen photos are very similar to what I've seen for greys, some Roswell, but not the ones that look like mutated kids. But there are so many types of greys, headshapes and bodies, some are twig like, and some are pinkies. And they're all bots, some worn like suits.

There are humanoids/humans too, and reptiliains who still appear human. And some of the advanced ones are time travelers, though in a sense its all time travel for every sun is its own clock for the program.

The DVD run, ie. movement/motion, doesnt exist, as time doesnt exist. Change does. So as a scene, or clip in the infinite roll of metaphorical film changes, the film bumps ahead. I say it bumps ahead instead of merely reforming, into a new scene because there is no time, its all once, and infinity is infinite in all directions at once, so the next scene is already recorded infinitely as well, so it simply bumps ahead....... Each clip in our infinite lives for example is forever.

So, we might as well compare Earth run and cycles, until the end of the play, final cycle and upgrade, as a DVD run. metaphorically.

With time travel, the higher ups do this, higher cosmic citizens and certain negative factions, they're capped in levels. They come in to try and influence outcome (of our souls), they cannot change the already finished DVD main scenes, overall. But souls can be rescued and are. Like Groundhog Day the movie.

This was explained to me by a couple human looking who said they were reptilian and did not ask me to trust in them or anyone. We are to shine our lights and work to progress our love. Not to trust, that is not advisable when you don't remember who you are, and you need to watch for behavior and good works,ie the tree bears good fruit They did not expect, nor wanted trust. But they did say, we need to help one another, shine light and love and encourage people start to wake up more and not react to negativity and so they can pass these tests and get out. As this was telepathic, the words are in my own. Because its ideas and concepts, but with a timbre, a tone as if an impression of a male voice, or female. She spoke most, more of the liason, while he spoke more at the end.

There are two polarities and lots of inbetween values of this, in cosmic citizens, some are negative and some are positive.

None will let you photo them however.

Edit to add: In time travel, anything you could do physically would already have been done and your presence in this dvd run would be a part of its recording already. So you can't change the overall picture, or major events, or what one would call the ouline of the coloring book. But we color it up our way, like Groundhog Day the movie. People can enter into old DVDs to get family out, or help.

The energy in the comsos is more akin to holographic/interactive, but on a very advanced level, many many many trillions of years ahead of ours, or more. But there is a difference between the toaster, energy waves and Consciousness/Intellect/Spirit/Light. And souls can be rescued, or harmed. I'm sure there are negatives trying to win influence too. Its called tweaking I think.

So ET is a big complicated issue, so many types of ETs, so many levels or grades even of ETs, some are Future Family helping out.

There is the whole perceptional thing too, sometimes our journey is in a private room. Someone in our family could be up and out, having progressed quickly, and they are a perception.

So if you went back in time, as a black op here, and killed your father before you were born, all I can say, is that wouldn't be earth, and not a timeline split, it would be a perceptional illusion.

Originally posted by Krono
Has anybody actually got a REAL photo of a REAL alien?

Cause all the "proof" on this section seems to be pictures of either a fake ufo, an "secret" military aircraft or a bird.

I'd like to apolagize in advance for not making this thread informative or interesting. It was just a question.

It's impossible to know really. That is, unless you take the picture yourself. There may be people on this forum who will point out a photo to you and tell you they think it might be a real alien. There are others who will tell you that any photo of an alien is, by definition, fake. One thing is certain. You will get no real answers to your question here.

reply to post by Unity_99


You met one alien and learned all that.
Or you were asleep the whole time.
That sounds a lot like Walton's event.
Lyne met a few people waiting for Palaidan ships to roll by but
he didn't wait. They knew so much Lyne felt they knew what soap they used.
I know a joke but he was impressed. However it seems the knowledge just
came to them by some mental stream. I often hear or think of things for no reason
and find out there was truth to the idea.

reply to post by Krono


i have with me these photos which for me could be a real alien and real disc shaoed craft.
i don't know how to categorize thme coz they are screen shots from google earth moon/ mars imagery.
i'll try to fill in some info and the rest would be up to you.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f11fc6b088da.jpg[/atsimg]
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/4c5faa7edff5.jpg[/atsimg]
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d5614577bf7d.jpg[/atsimg]

given that these images were extracted from google erarth/ mars then they maybe alien or et's to us but they could just very well be, martian...
these are raw, data.
if you have a more sphisticated gadgetry to really dissect these images have a go for it.

this discc shaped craft extracted from google earth/moon imagery is taken perched on top of a ridge from Komarov crater.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/66f71f953176.jpg[/atsimg]
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3d504326ac6a.jpg[/atsimg]

that time komarov crater has a very clear and sharp steamlined imageries but if you check google earth now its all opaque and blurred.

so if the first set of imageries are "real martians" then definitely they are et/aliens to us and the craft in Komarov if not one of ours , though clearly defined but not identified, then its a "UFO"?
btw, these images are in my ats album for public viewing, you might find some more interesting photos in there mate.