Does anyone else have aliens remotely torturing them while they have agents chase them around?

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the EMF grid (smart meters, wifi, chordless phones, cell phones) allows them to single out and broadcast to a localized area.

i can also speculate that we are walking antennas full of aluminum and barium, that force us to receive within the localized broadcast.

whether you believe in chemtrails or not is irrelevant, as calibration can be achieved via small planes "triangulating" a given area. a transmission can be directed rather than broadcasted rather easily. this is precisely how they communicate with nuclear submarines.

this is why i suggested a faraday-cage. as it would rule out this possibility if i am incorrect.

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reply to post by SeventhSeal


Okay, so you don't believe in aliens, or demons, and probably not gang stalking either.

We got it the first time.

Quite a few of us probably disagree with you, so deal with it.

Hehehe... First of all... If aliens were controlling you it is very likely you would'nt notice it. They would make the control seem like it is something you want and your own idea. And it would be something that you would probably be embarrassed to talk about. Something personal. And same response as above, they don't really care what you say as no one will believe you. But it would be a behavior that impedes your normal day to day progress and advancement.

Originally posted by cupocoffee
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Okay, so you don't believe in aliens, or demons, and probably not gang stalking either.

We got it the first time.

Quite a few of us probably disagree with you, so deal with it.

When did I say I didn't believe in aliens? It's ignorant to deny the fact that there's life beyond our planet, is it not?

The person is not going through any mythological or conspiracy theory nonsense. They are going through mental issues (if they're not trolling). Providing advice based on "demonic possessions" is childish and moronic.

But whatever. Mental asking Mental for help.

Originally posted by SeventhSeal
The person is not going through any mythological or conspiracy theory nonsense. They are going through mental issues (if they're not trolling).

How can you possibly know that for sure, just based on a few posts in an internet thread?

It could be a purely mental illness - or, it could be something else.

Who the hell are you to insist that your diagnosis is the only correct one, and start calling me names?

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Well, MegaCurious, are you still around?

Has any of this been helpful for you?

I hope we've given you some new perspective at least....

Originally posted by Juston
Wow. Some of you really have nothing better to do huh? Is it really that much fun to belittle people on message boards?

Anyhow OP, I hope you can figure out something. Sorry I cannot be of any help.

Seems like everyone who posted before you was sympathetic or trying to help with what they know best. What is your deal?

OP I would recommend talking to a mental health professional. While you really may be tortured by aliens, it is not outside the realm of possibility that there is another explanation. Chances are others in the world are experiencing or have experienced what you are experiencing right now. A mental health professional would be aware of what worked for those other folks if there is a more mundane explanation.

Even if there is no rational explanation, it would likely be very useful and comforting to you to talk to someone about it and to take an methodical inventory of the experiences. They could help you review clues from times when the problems were particularily intense and times when the problem lessened. There may even be things or processes that you can introduce into your life that drive the aliens away, either permanently or at least for a time.

Finally, to me aliens and demons are often interchangable labels. Entities that we don't understand in a traditional sense. Religious figures or leaders, such as a priest with experience in this area, may be capable of providing some assistance.

If you want others to be open to you, then you need to be open to trying the help we offer.

Phantasms of the mind or The Shadow (a Jungian psychological term) are more or less the same thing.

Both shamanic and traditional age old healers/priests go about trying to rid the mind of these disturbances, much like the modern Psychologist and Psychiatrist.

Sometimes the soul/spirit needs healing as much as the mind.
Humans are, after all, are complex multifaceted beings.

When I mentioned earlier about the Collective Unconsciousness believed to be inherent to all humanity, I was referring to the modern psychoanalytic approach to how internal imbalances manifest themselves using a "bridge" between older interpretations of such phenomena and modern contexts.

Call them demons, call them aliens, call it nothing more than a chemical imbalance brought on by any number of physiological/environmental factors, maybe too much time focusing on bad movies and absorbing too much of the wrong media....when a patient is in a state of inner turmoil - they're all referring to the same thing.

They're all collective attacks on the psyche - regardless of how we label them.


If someone finds help and strength through a religious medium, wonderful!

If another finds help through modern psychiatry, great!

If another finds comfort in working out their problems by using crystals and burning sage - where is the harm in that?

Some find peace in mantras and meditation.

It's about the person having the direct experiences finding what works best for them and brings them peace and closure.....not who or what gets credit for the relief.

I still have to mediate my medications with other methods of therapy in order to stay sane and rational....and you might be surprised at how many Doctorates in the field have told me "Hey, if it works for you and eases your symptoms - by all means, keep it up!"


At this point it's really up to MegaCurious to decide which path he/she wishes to undertake....and it can be a slow road to finding out what works.


Even modern psychiatry isn't a "quick and easy fix" - no matter how much we'd like to think it might be....but it's a step in the right direction with people trained to help and heal.

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I respect all your posts and ideas.

Sometimes it really is just a "phantasm of the mind", and various methods like meds and meditations can be used to help.

But sometimes a person really is under attack by some outside entity, or entities.

Gang stalking is maybe the best example of this. I know this from experience, being a "targeted individual" myself.

No amount of counselling, meds, praying, meditating, herbs, crystals, healers, shamans or exorcists ever makes the torture from gang stalking stop - because it's a government program. It involves a highly sophisticated surveillance system and a lot of people.

This is why diagnosing these things carefully is so important. If a person is a gang stalking target, then just getting them therapy and meds is not going to help. Conversely, if a person is just mentally ill, then treating them like a gang stalking target won't work.

I hope you guys get the point. The OP used a lot of very specific language indicating that he feels he's under attack by outside entities.

So is just sending him off to therapy the right solution? I don't know....

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I'm not going to read all the posts, it's front page and late.

I know what you mean by all this.

I could only say accept and obey. Or pray for someone to jailbreak you.

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The reason I suggest therapy is that it's part of a support base - which is VERY important when someone is being singled out as a TI. The more people you have around you who are aware of your situation in a safe environment, the better.

I know the amount of psychic attacks I underwent decreased dramatically once I got professional help.

I've seen a lot less suspicious behavior in the folks out and about town than before - less glares and more smiles.

Granted, this is just personal experience...but I was going to some pretty scary realities that I couldn't pull myself out of, and I prefer regular therapy sessions to involuntary commitment or jail time (both of which I've been through when things just got waaaaaaaaaaay out of hand).

It really hurt my feelings when you said you could care less about me

I have to drink myself to sleep too but its because of depression and pain and perhaps borderline insanity. I'm not sure if that's the case with you, but I know it is with me.

You should maybe talk to someone, but who knows if that will even help, as every day I put less faith in doctors and the pharmaceutical industry. Perhaps a holistic doctor? or a shaman?

Are you taking your vitamins?

I'm sorry you're feeling like this.

Originally posted by arollingstone
Heres a thought:

If aliens/government/whoever do target people for mind control, torture etc. - what criteria do they use when choosing victims?

The only criterion is that the victim must suffer from paranoid schizophrenia.

All actual cases of torture not caused by mental illness are done in person by people, and in nearly all cases the torture victim knows why he is being tortured, because the purpose of the torture (if not personal enjoyment by a sadist---rather rare) is political or religious group intimidation.

And there is no practically useful technology for "mind control", especially at a distance, since if there were we would see a huge number of related technologies all over the planet. Think how good the porn could be. Porn is a 100% efficient exploiter of any available technology.

Originally posted by cupocoffee

Originally posted by arollingstone
Heres a thought:

If aliens/government/whoever do target people for mind control, torture etc. - what criteria do they use when choosing victims?

I'm sure the system was originally developed for monitoring [suspected] terrorists, but what it's become is anyone who the government considers undesirable, for whatever reason.

Alien contactees, psychics, people who are too politically active, people who research conspiracy theory and government corruption too much, people who know a lot about the occult and esoteric - basically, people who know too much. People who tell the truth too much. etc etc

I qualify on all accounts (other than being politically active, and as for the contact, it was of the 3F sub type) and up until this thread had never heard of the concept of Gang Stalking. In retrospect I see that some of the indicators are and have been there.

I am very familiar with shielding and protective techniques, having studied esoterica thoroughly a couple of decades ago. I am of the Order of Michael and feel very confident in my personal abilities.

This also puts into a new light some things I remember from early elementary (2nd through 5th or 6th grade) school.

We took the CAT (California Achievement Test) back then and my teachers were continually shocked at my scores. In every category. They would tell me that there were maybe only one or two students in the entire state who scored as well as I in as many categories as I had.

I was placed in a program in which we would perform relatively simple acrobatic exercises (balancing on the base of an inverted pyramid, or on a plank which had been placed on the circular "side" of a cylinder) and then be given math problems or riddles to solve. Kind of reminded me of the Manticore program from Dark Angel minus the bar code tatt.

I have what a friend terms "abnormal awareness" which simply means that I notice things others would not even think to pick out. Certain things seem to be highlighted when I look at or think about them (very much in the way of "a beautiful mind") and I can sense patterns where there is (at first glance) none to be seen.

OP, take the advice of those who are suggesting you to strengthen your mental shields and inner toughness. You may have a physiological condition or you may be experiencing something "out of the ordinary" that those with an irremovable conscious filter through which everything experienced is passed before it is cogitated upon cannot fathom.

Regardless, whether you care about others does play a role in your susceptibility to such activity. A genuinely caring soul has the strength of gentleness with them, and that is something very difficult to dislodge once firmly assimilated. It is obvious that many care about you, and the strength they posses can be sensed by those like myself. Those who immediately jumping to belittling are obviously trying to hide an inexplicable (to them) fear of the unknown.

Originally posted by Dawgishly

Originally posted by Juston
Wow. Some of you really have nothing better to do huh? Is it really that much fun to belittle people on message boards?

Anyhow OP, I hope you can figure out something. Sorry I cannot be of any help.

Seems like everyone who posted before you was sympathetic or trying to help with what they know best. What is your deal?

OP I would recommend talking to a mental health professional.

This. Enough with the demonic possession BS and let's recommend actual professional treatment for the individual.

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You'll have to forgive me. The OP started talking about some kind of "psychic" entity being with him all the time, all day, all night, and affecting his thoughts and body 24/7, so for a minute there it sounded like he was possessed, by an entity.

But what would I know?

From what I have seen of your post, if I may rephrase something you mentioned:

I could care less about you.

By this I am assuming that you mean rather that "you are not trying to sell us anything, and so what we take away from this is of our own interest.". Is this so?

I believe I can relate to what you are going through, as I have experienced somewhat similar circumstances, though not exactly the same as yours. What I am presenting is just a possibility, not an absolute answer to your issue. There are potentially, IMHO, a couple of things going on at the same time. It is important for purposes of understanding what I am going to write that you separate some of these issues.

What I am going to write is also something I've studied from my own experiences, it is not necessarily atomically correct, but it might suffice to understand your situation.

There is also, aside from what I post a medical angle with which I would encourage you to look at, if you are able to do so. Body chemistry is important for the mind to function - as you have discovered with your use of alchohol.

With respect to the use of alchohol, I wouldn't advise you imbibe large quantities, as alchohol is also a depressant (in large quantities) - and *it* can irritate you to keep you awake - something to do with the body's sexual activity and overstimulation. A little bit of alchohol might be acceptable though - as in small quantities it can be a relaxant.

I am a computer systems engineer (covers electronics, software and radio communications) and I have taken some basic psychology courses, in addition to being a strong believer in meditation - and it is from the combination of these that I come up with a possible means by which trouble is caused for people.

Lastly, what I present is the result of years and years of research and proof gathering - and I'm not going to post all the possible angles I have considered for proof. I have limited time at my disposal to help out.