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Originally posted by Optimistprime78
So right but the people there have no idea they are being used for a socialist agenda. Hiding behind people's true frustrations and using them to push a antiamerica agenda from other people in power and actually part of the 1%! Russell Simmons was down there getting people to chant behind him and is part of the 1% making over 340 million dollars are year. Even my daughters cartoons use words like fair share and political ideology in them. Sad. Propaganda is everyone and unless you are opposed or smart enough to see it they call u crazy.
Why are they on wall street and not the Washington mall? Because unions are in bed with the administration and it's all a front for revolution but all that will come of it is more government control.
True revolution starts with people removing themselves from the status quo and making a difference in their own neck of the woods and gardening and teaching others to live more simply and be stewards of the environment without government intervention. But the government want to make that difficult so that they can make money on the green movement only thing green is the dollar and that is almost worthless now. Wake up people make yourselves accountable and do it the old fashion way change your life and help those around you change theirs too. That's what I am trying to do and talking to people who feel trapped and say hey me too but we can make it better by coming to gather and not this us vs. Them mentality.
Good luck people stay safe, aware and always strive to help yourself and others.
Originally posted by FlyingSpaghettiMonster
Originally posted by rwfresh At this point trying to figure out who is running it is pointless. The reaction is against an engineered collapse of the world financial system to bring about WWIII. That is what's going on. So if you aren't awake to that you will be soon i hope. DEMAND PEACE. If you aren't on the peace train you've not quite woken up yet.
This is why we'll fail. It's not 'engineered', that's the whole point. Capitalism has fallen to pieces because of its inherent flaws and the incompetence and greed of its practitioners. And they laugh at all those who think there's some kind of coherent evil plan behind this, because there isn't. 'They' haven't got a clue what to do.
Originally posted by rwfresh
Originally posted by FlyingSpaghettiMonster
Originally posted by rwfresh At this point trying to figure out who is running it is pointless. The reaction is against an engineered collapse of the world financial system to bring about WWIII. That is what's going on. So if you aren't awake to that you will be soon i hope. DEMAND PEACE. If you aren't on the peace train you've not quite woken up yet.
This is why we'll fail. It's not 'engineered', that's the whole point. Capitalism has fallen to pieces because of its inherent flaws and the incompetence and greed of its practitioners. And they laugh at all those who think there's some kind of coherent evil plan behind this, because there isn't. 'They' haven't got a clue what to do.
You believe the market is like the weather. That is false. The scheme is man-made. It is not natural. Does the weather need a military to enforce participation? The fact that it is made by and enforced by PEOPLE is proof that the "collapse" is engineered. No one is losing control of. It is not weather. Why is the US economy the world economy? VIOLENT DOMINATION and nothing else. It's very simple. This is not conspiracy. It is extremely obvious that the entire global economy is enforced by violence. The US dollar's value is not organic. It is directly co-related to the ability of "them" to commit murder and violence against any threat to it. THEY decide what the economy will do or won't do. You have no argument against this fact. It only needs admitting.
Originally posted by FlyingSpaghettiMonster
Originally posted by rwfresh
Originally posted by FlyingSpaghettiMonster
Originally posted by rwfresh At this point trying to figure out who is running it is pointless. The reaction is against an engineered collapse of the world financial system to bring about WWIII. That is what's going on. So if you aren't awake to that you will be soon i hope. DEMAND PEACE. If you aren't on the peace train you've not quite woken up yet.
This is why we'll fail. It's not 'engineered', that's the whole point. Capitalism has fallen to pieces because of its inherent flaws and the incompetence and greed of its practitioners. And they laugh at all those who think there's some kind of coherent evil plan behind this, because there isn't. 'They' haven't got a clue what to do.
You believe the market is like the weather. That is false. The scheme is man-made. It is not natural. Does the weather need a military to enforce participation? The fact that it is made by and enforced by PEOPLE is proof that the "collapse" is engineered. No one is losing control of. It is not weather. Why is the US economy the world economy? VIOLENT DOMINATION and nothing else. It's very simple. This is not conspiracy. It is extremely obvious that the entire global economy is enforced by violence. The US dollar's value is not organic. It is directly co-related to the ability of "them" to commit murder and violence against any threat to it. THEY decide what the economy will do or won't do. You have no argument against this fact. It only needs admitting.
If I had a pound for every time an ATS member told me I had to admit the 'truth', I could pay off the UK's national debt tomorrow. Afford my views the same respect you so obviously give to your own.
I don't get where your 'weather' metaphor comes from, I never implied anything of the kind. Capitalism is indeed a n artificial system, an organised behaviour, but that doesn't stop the failure of that system being down to its inherent flaws and the weaknesses and flaws of the people operating the system. My point is that simply trying to 'reboot' capitalism will not work. The same thing as has happened now will only happen again further down the line. Exponential growth and unrestrained consumption are unsustainable in every sense. It's time to try something else.
Yeah Reagan could fix the problem, LOL!! These are different times altogether, the Reagan administration where the ones that started a lot of the problems that we are facing today. Although i will say that the Neo-Cons are very far from what Reagan would have referred to as conservative principles.
Originally posted by wulff
reply to post by Observer99
I agree, the left seems to think it is the 'radical right-wingers' that is causing all the problems in the world! To those people look in the mirror and look at the person YOU put into the White House!
Chanting? And you are proud of that?
God, where is a decent leader like Reagan when we need him?
Originally posted by Optimistprime78
reply to post by AnonymousFem
I feel sorry for you you believe in OWS movement. It's using you and people like you to march on bankers families giving out their addresses where their children attend school and marching in mass to private homes. How would that make you feel. It's not so much evil bankers as it is evil people in power in D.C. Making evil laws bankers are just smart enough to use them to enrich themselves. I don't think it is right but you seem very hardcore supporter of this movement without considering that if you want to change your life and for the betterment for everyone you need to be a vessel of change.
Have to you done anything to change the world? Other than chant, rant and demand. Do you grow a garden or prepare for unforeseen disasters, have you donated your time to someone in your neighborhood or family that needs tutoring or extra clothes, have you ever talked to someone in need and sit a while and just listen cause maybe they just need a friend or pay a bill for the person in front of you that's a little short cause you you have the extra 20 dollars.
All I am saying is yelling, threatening and demanding never got anybody anything. Love will, compassion, knowledge and extending a helpful hand changes the world. They might be there all year I don't care I am spending my time learning about how ton live more simply and use my leftovers and knowledge to help others and spread the wealth.
What have you done or doing to make sure all people are free and successful. All I see is brainwashed unthought out actions taking place with no positive resolutions coming out of it. Before you stand for something you should make sure your standing for good.
Originally posted by Jiggyfly
reply to post by TinfoilTP
I'm confused....
You post a link to an article, by a Fox News affiliate I might add, with the intention of portraying the OWS people as foolish for not allowing an agent of the government they believe to be corrupt to speak.
Except, if you read up on it at all, from a more neutral source that doesn't liken the occupy Atlanta group to a "Phish Concert,' you'd see that they actually just voted to proceed with their agenda, which Lewis was interrupting, and that he could speak after they finished their already agreed upon agenda. They couldn't give him an exact time, so he declined.
Furthermore, people at the protest who felt Lewis should be recognized for his accomplishments (which are many indeed, I would agree) left in disgust.
By contrast, here's what happened to Lewis last year at a Tea Party protest:
wchbnewsdetroit.com... nti-health-care-reform-protestor-what-does-these-times-remind-you-of/
I challenge you to find a Fox affiliate that shows similar outrage for Lewis' treatment in 2010. When you can't, you'll probably have to accept that the protesters yelling "Fox News Lies" probably acted in their own correct self interests.
Disproportionate response in a public medium is a lie. Make no mistake.
Originally posted by Lightbringer38
A massive Crowd at the Occupy Wall Street Protests shouting Fox News Lies, so much that the entire Fox news Crew left!
This is like a dream come true to me!
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