Possible Spirit Interaction During Our Investigation On Video.

Originally posted by ghosthunter79
We would NEVER stand out of camera shot flicking light switches and whispering into voice recorders.

So you say.

Whats the point, we are not on the TV thinking of what we need to capture next in order to get ratings. We recently started presenting our EVP and video findings on the net as we realised we had lots of stuff that people might find intresting.

Why does anyone hoax anything?
Why do these shows on TV set stuff up.... ok silly question, they do it for the ratings and the money, but people hoax for attention, they do it for the sense of having pulled one over on people.... a power trip, ego.

A number of things.

I am afraid that trickery and deception is not at all what we are about. We might carry out four or five investigation before we have enough to show even a 5 minute video. What would be the point of spending hours doing this just to fake it for a few hundred youtube hits. You see my point i'm sure !!!

Attention, the other reasons I pointed out.

I'm not trying to be mean or pick on you, but merely come from the other side, the absolute sceptic side, you have offered nothing concrete (as with all of these kinds of things) and you just expect us to take your word.
The camera could have positioned to see the light switch or whatever, several things could have caused that to happen.

And you title the thread "possible spirit interaction" but really you're already leaning towards "spirit interaction" and are hoping there are a few more gullible people here to say "yeah... wow, well the light turned on"

I appreciate people are sceptical (I was more on the sceptical side when I started investigating, thinking eveything could be explained) however just leaving sarcastic comments really is pretty petty and not at all contructive.

They're not just sarcastic comments though are they?
They're asking questions and pointing out flaws in what you have presented and what you've said.

You say the council can't replicate a light turning on or off?? That's absurd... ridiculous.
You say that the light turned itself on and off.... and we must take your word, we have a lot of hoaxers on ATS, you'll forgive my tough stance, I hope.


Anyway, whatever.

You carry on.

Sorry for bringing an opposing view into your thread, maybe you can all carry on saying that every rustle of the mic is satan burping or something.

Peace

I really do appreciate you taking the time to post your vid OP. you did look surprised by the light in the vid. Do you have anymore vids?

reply to post by blupblup


No probs mate,

Sorry if i seemed a little peeeeed off lol. Its just the amount of hoaxed stuff i see does get on my nerves a little and when people think we may be among those noobs hoaxing things it tends to get my back up a little bit. I would not have £££££ worth of tech kit personally purchased to just hoax things.

It’s good to have a sceptical view of things. In my personal opinion I wholly accept that we may of had a lighting fault that occurred in that building on that night. It took two weeks of talking with the building’s owners about the lights and trying to debunk it before I even thought about showing the clip.

When I say they can’t replicate a light turning on, what I mean is they have tested it out by keeping the lights switched to manual off (as they were on the night) and they never come on of their own accord. Of course they can turn them on physically and get the same result. I think you see where I am coming from on this.

By saying its Possible Spirit interaction, that’s just what I mean. Possible nothing more. People can take from it what they will. Myself I still don’t know why this happened to us on the night but it has never happened in that room before or since.

Having worked in this field for a number of years I believe without a shadow of a doubt that things happen that can’t be explained. We do collect bazar EVP voices that we can’t bottom out. I appreciate people thinking oh well it’s just them hoaxing etc but it’s honestly not. These things happen and some can’t seem to get their heads round it so just write it off to hoaxing as its the easiest option.

Believe it or not we have had team members with views like your join the group. The last guy actually saw a full apparition of a WW2 Pilot in an old hanger at an old RAF base, it shocked him so much that he never turned up for another investigation as it threw his whole belief structure out the window and he couldn’t handle it.

Anyways the video is what it is .. not a hoax ... but then again there is a good chance there is a rational explanation that we just can’t find. One of my personal fav lines is

Just Because You Can’t Explain It ... Does Not Mean It Can’t Be Explained

That’s how we try to be, present what we find and let people make up their own minds.

reply to post by BLKMJK


Yes we do, we have a few other bits and bobs on our youtube channel. The link should be under my post where the personal signiture is.

As I say we have a few things up as this is a new project for the team and tbh most investigations dont really turn anything up. But when we do find something we cant personally explain we put it up for people to view.

reply to post by ghosthunter79

Just acknowledging your cool reply here, ghosthunter79. The world needs skeptics, yes, but respectful skeptics and not those who purposely try to ridicule.

In any event, I read your replies to my initial concerns and you've got me giving you major thumbs up all the way. I envy the work you do and hope you'll keep sharing any findings here on the ATS forums.

Timidgal

Originally posted by timidgal
reply to post by ghosthunter79

 

Just acknowledging your cool reply here, ghosthunter79. The world needs skeptics, yes, but respectful skeptics and not those who purposely try to ridicule.

In any event, I read your replies to my initial concerns and you've got me giving you major thumbs up all the way. I envy the work you do and hope you'll keep sharing any findings here on the ATS forums.

Timidgal

Thanks Tim,

As you may of noticed I do get a little hot headed when dealing with people like that poster. I have no issue with Sceptics, we have had them on the team (some left, some now accept they may be wrong) but as I said, trying to poke ridicule at something is just not on.

We try to remain open minded to things and not dump everything on the paranormal band wagon as I have seen some teams do.

Im glad you enjoyed the video, we do have lots of locations lined up so we hope to have some more things to show you soon.

We are off outside of the UK next week for our first investigation in another country. Its a high profile location so cant wait.

Steve

Originally posted by timidgal
reply to post by ghosthunter79

 

Just acknowledging your cool reply here, ghosthunter79. The world needs skeptics, yes, but respectful skeptics and not those who purposely try to ridicule.

In any event, I read your replies to my initial concerns and you've got me giving you major thumbs up all the way. I envy the work you do and hope you'll keep sharing any findings here on the ATS forums.

Timidgal

Thanks Tim,

As you may of noticed I do get a little hot headed when dealing with people like that poster. I have no issue with Sceptics, we have had them on the team (some left, some now accept they may be wrong) but as I said, trying to poke ridicule at something is just not on.

We try to remain open minded to things and not dump everything on the paranormal band wagon as I have seen some teams do.

Im glad you enjoyed the video, we do have lots of locations lined up so we hope to have some more things to show you soon.

We are off outside of the UK next week for our first investigation in another country. Its a high profile location so cant wait.

Steve

Originally posted by timidgal
reply to post by ghosthunter79

 

Just acknowledging your cool reply here, ghosthunter79. The world needs skeptics, yes, but respectful skeptics and not those who purposely try to ridicule.

In any event, I read your replies to my initial concerns and you've got me giving you major thumbs up all the way. I envy the work you do and hope you'll keep sharing any findings here on the ATS forums.

Timidgal

Thanks Tim,

As you may of noticed I do get a little hot headed when dealing with people like that poster. I have no issue with Sceptics, we have had them on the team (some left, some now accept they may be wrong) but as I said, trying to poke ridicule at something is just not on.

We try to remain open minded to things and not dump everything on the paranormal band wagon as I have seen some teams do.

Im glad you enjoyed the video, we do have lots of locations lined up so we hope to have some more things to show you soon.

We are off outside of the UK next week for our first investigation in another country. Its a high profile location so cant wait.

Steve

Originally posted by ghosthunter79
reply to post by blupblup

 

No probs mate,

Sorry if i seemed a little peeeeed off lol.

Hey no worries mate, spirited debate is fine... and banter is just the English way right?

We do collect bazar EVP voices that we can’t bottom out. I appreciate people thinking oh well it’s just them hoaxing etc but it’s honestly not.

See I know a lot of these can come from interference from radio signals, CB's, walkie talkies and other such sources.

I'm not sure what checks you do and how you work out where the noises come from that you pick up?

Believe it or not we have had team members with views like your join the group. The last guy actually saw a full apparition of a WW2 Pilot in an old hanger at an old RAF base, it shocked him so much that he never turned up for another investigation as it threw his whole belief structure out the window and he couldn’t handle it.

Sounds pretty cool... always nice to experience something like that.
There are certainly many weird and wonderful things we don't yet fully understand, and if you are as genuine and honest as you say you are, than that's cool and I think you;re doing a good and worthwhile thing.

Just Because You Can’t Explain It ... Does Not Mean It Can’t Be Explained

That’s how we try to be, present what we find and let people make up their own minds.

A good mantra indeed.

Peace

...sounded like "utilities" to me...

I'd be curious about the history of the building...anyone die there or nearby from tragedy or injustice?

What was the smell? Sulpherous? Burnt? Decay?
Any cold spots? Could be a ghost...

Might want to examin the possibility of a team member or custodian being psychicly adept and unwittingly be causing psychokinetic activity...

We do collect bazar EVP voices that we can’t bottom out. I appreciate people thinking oh well it’s just them hoaxing etc but it’s honestly not.

See I know a lot of these can come from interference from radio signals, CB's, walkie talkies and other such sources.

I'm not sure what checks you do and how you work out where the noises come from that you pick up?

Yea very aware of outside interference from things like CBs. I personally do all the EVP and Audio for our team, as in if we have 8 voice recorders on a case, each team member reviews his or her own audio and then sends me anything that may be of interest. I clean it up and reduce hiss etc. using Adobe Audition 3 (We only clean and amplify nothing else is done to a file and the original is always kept for continuity reasons)

I think I bin off about 80% of audio sent to me, I'm pretty strict with it. I have run hours of tests in my own place with voice recorders testing if our 2 way radios ever get picked up on the recording (they dont) tested it with mobile phones (no again) also we never carry phones on cases as they mess with the EMF field rendering any K2 or EMF evidence un-usable

The best EVPs I go for are ones that seem to be in direct response to the team. We do get these but they are rare as rocking horse crap !! but they do crop up. Audio review usually involves listening to 5-6 hours with nothing. But when we do get just one good EVP it makes it worthwhile.

Glad you enjoyed the banter, always enjoy a heated debate with a harden sceptic (believe it or not I use to be pretty sceptical, maybe not to your level but certainly a lot more than I am now.)

Originally posted by Khurzon
...sounded like "utilities" to me...

I'd be curious about the history of the building...anyone die there or nearby from tragedy or injustice?

What was the smell? Sulpherous? Burnt? Decay?
Any cold spots? Could be a ghost...

Might want to examin the possibility of a team member or custodian being psychicly adept and unwittingly be causing psychokinetic activity...

Hi,

Thanks for your reply. The smell we picked up on I can only describe as the smell you get when you enter a house where someone has been dead for a few days. (Yes i do know what this is like, I have worked in a profession before where I was in regular contact with this kind of thing)

If you have never smelt it before the only way to describe it is like this -- Leave a wet towel on the floor for a few days after you have used it a few times to dry yourself with, the putrid damp smell is very close to a body that’s been dead for 48-72 hours, not exact but close) This is what the smell was like. At one point I even had a breeze pass me so much so it moved my hair, this smell was in this breeze.

Now as for the history of the building ... that can be a bit tricky here in England. That building has been there for about 180 years. It’s always been a town hall, for a short time it was used as a Court House. However there will have been buildings on that site since Shaftsbury was founded in 880AD so that’s 1131 possible years of history for that site alone.

Re the teams members causing things to happen psychokinetically, this is not something that I have ever come across (knowingly) but I am open minded to this. Could the fact we are all there looking for something cause it to happen - Sure why not, it’s just as likely as putting it down to a ghost. It’s certainly worth thinking about.
.

I thought it was funny when the room lit up. you want lights? Here you go! Haha. If that was paranormal then that was an intelligent and humorous ghost.

I cant quite make out the evp. It kinda sounds like it says, look there it tis. It definitely sounds like a little girl.

I enjoyed the video and am off to watch the rest of your vids.


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Originally posted by strafgod
I thought it was funny when the room lit up. you want lights? Here you go! Haha. If that was paranormal then that was an intelligent and humorous ghost.

I cant quite make out the evp. It kinda sounds like it says, look there it tis. It definitely sounds like a little girl.

I enjoyed the video and am off to watch the rest of your vids.

 

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Thanks for the comments,

Yes if it was interaction 1) it was humerous and 2) it was one of the best direct replies we have ever caught, which is why I am fully prepared to accept that it was coincidence lol.

Hope you enjoyed the other bits we have up, we have been investigating for 6 years but this channel is a new project so we are only putting more recent stuff up.

Thanks again

Steve