How many of you would pay a prostitute? Or vote to make prostitution legal?

We are all prostitutes in some form or another. It's just a matter of degrees.

In the entertainment business, I encounter "working girls" quite frequently; most of them are very unhappy but forced by life's circumstances into "the life"

Legal.... with medical and social supervision.

All of it should be legal. And if you've been married any amount of time. Your paying one way or the other.......

Originally posted by paleorchid13
All of you have made very valid points , and in a way all you are talking about the "positives " of legal prostitution. So am I to assume that everyone agrees that the reason children are forced into this industry is because of the criminalization ?
There really is something troubling me . In all our "fingertips access" to sex . Abused little girls still make up the majority of the sex industry.

Personally I think prostitution should be legalized however...

No, I don't think that criminalization is the primary driving factor behind using under-aged girls for sex. I believe that it makes that particular aspect worse, but even if you make it legal you won't be rid of that nasty little dynamic. For two reasons, and one rather leads to the other...

Societies have (almost) always clamped down on selling sex, particularly women selling sex. There are a lot of reasons for that, and I'm more than happy to discuss the "why's" of that if anyone cares to. Either way, prostitutes tend to be marginalized by society even in those cultures where it is not only legal but regulated and even sanctioned by the state. In short, these are people to many minds that don't really matter, who can be used and thrown away.

The idea that "young girls are more likely to be free from disease" has some legs. Many men are attracted to younger girls because the primal drive is telling them that is their best bet for risk free successful procreation. Now, this isn't actual thought, it's a biological drive; it rarely ever gets to the front of their brain, and if it does, and they actually ACT upon that impulse it is in the form of some silly rationalization.

So, you have a societal stigma against selling sex that leaves people a little more free to victimize others that do, and really basic biological drives that would need to be addressed and countered with legal and social sanctions before you can really make a significant dent in the practice of using underage girls for sex.

For the record, I am female, and I was a stripper for a few years. Great job, but dangerous. There were many pimps who brought their girls in, and I could tell you some pretty scary stories about that. I was propositioned for "an hour or two" or even by sugar daddies who wanted to set me up in my own house so that I could "stop doing this". In truth, if I wasn't married I would have certainly taken more than a few of them up on it. I was making good money on stage but that money was even better, and believe it or not there are decent guys who will pay for sex, not everyone is a dirt bag. I was also a consenting adult, which is rather the point I suppose.

Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by OwenGP185

 

I find it kind of appalling at the acceptance some here seem to have of these girls with deep rooted psychological issues selling themselves. It is their body and shouldn’t be illegal but it does not mean it should be deemed ok. I do not see how making prostitution a legitimate business helps these girls, the same things will go on and if anything it will make more girls to fall into the same line of selling. I personally think anyone who has ever paid for these services should be ashamed and reflect on how those girls got there. That post someone wrote about brothels paying for public road repairs etc is something so disgusting to put into words.

Selling your priceless body for money is a disgrace.
Paying money to use another’s body is also a disgrace.

Though I understand your point(s) and your opinion I find your ignorance appalling.

All prostitutes are women? What about MALE prostitutes? They do exits. Why just shake your fist at women?

And not all prostitutes are seeds and needy.

Many are young (and not so young) women putting themselves through college, supplementing their income etc. They are not ‘scarred by their childhood’ or sufferers of some type or nymphomania.

Tell me their is a difference between a woman who offers her body up as a surrogate mother and a woman who offers her body up to a man for pay and I'll say you're wrong.

I mean no insult, I only to bring you another opinion to think on.

Beyond that? Risking the assumption you’re a Christian? Let me ask you something.

Are you overweight.

My point?

Go visit a local church and tell me how many of the people sitting in the isles are overweight. Obesity is a deadly sin. The giving into the passion for food and the falling under the control of food, also living in sloth. But these same people don’t even give a second thought to abusing their body, the ‘temple of their Lord’.

Makes you think doesn’t it? Or it should.

Please do not confuse yourself, I’m not attacking you or your faith. I’m a Christian also, but one who will never attempt to subject others to my will or to remove their own, free will being the greatest gift ever given to humanity by its Creator.

peace

edit on 9-10-2011 by silo13 because: added note and spacing

For one I'm no Christian and never claimed to be, just because I feel selling your body is wrong that does not mean I believe in a story from hundreds of years ago. Your right there are men in the same position and I find that just as wrong but I’m not having ago at prostitutes rather the people who use them. Also if that was a genuine question no I am not overweight as I go to a gym and keep fit, I have never sat inside a church.

*double*

reply to post by paleorchid13

Criminalizing prostitution does nothing but victimize the victims

It does nothing but cause problems - period

I am all for legalizing prostitution - any of the problems that come with prostitution now would be less

For one thing, the abuses heaped on prostitutes - would be less

We can't legislate morality. That has been scientifically proven now - right? :-)

Well, of course we can legislate anything we want to - and we do. I forget where I live sometimes :-)

But this is about consenting adults and all. We can sell guns, stripping is fine, lap-dances...alcohol beloved, kids can play games that let them kill prostitutes (even if they are cartoon prostitutes) - and money can be made on all of it - loads of money

But, oh no - consenting adults paying for sex - naughty naughty...

Also interesting is that here - at ATS - we can have an entire thread about something illegal - but if you so much as mention something else that's also illegal - something being openly discussed by our entire country in the MSM - you are censored and reprimanded

we are a hoot - aren't we?

:-)

Originally posted by Realtruth
Everyday people sell their priceless body's for money.

Some do it as bankers,

Some do it as politicians.

Some do it as Lawyers.

So with your logic, I would guess everyone that works is disgraceful.

Originally posted by OwenGP185

Selling your priceless body for money is a disgrace.
Paying money to use another’s body is also a disgrace.

Just my opinion.

edit on 9-10-2011 by Realtruth because: (no reason given)

When I say sell their body I obviously mean for sex. I think it is fine to work I just find it wrong for people to take advantage of another human being if they are doing something they do not want to do. For instance, if someone felt they had to work as a slave to get by I would say that is wrong to and anyone keeping the slave to be a disgrace, imo the same applies.

Simply put, I find nothing good about keeping it illegal. So, a few points:

1) Prostitution requires no training, no equipment, no startup cost, no facilities, and no support to do. Basically, if you have a vagina, you are fully equipped to be a prostitute (no offense meant)

2) Keeping it illegal inherently ties it to other illegal activities

3) They could be provided health insurance and protection if legalized, reducing the health and physical threats that will naturally occur otherwise

4) This is the single most fundamental activity sexually active adults do, so it's wasteful to keep it illegal.

Prostitution is the purest form of casual sexual exchange. There is no dinner and a movie, no buying of drinks, and no diamonds. Simply cash for a service.

It shouldn't be illegal. I would never pay a prostitute, but I have payed for a meal and a movie.

As for child abuse and what not.... it is true that many prostitutes have had troubles in the past, but that is no reason to treat them like crap (thus adding to their pain) and throw them in jail. Our society has a lot of problems, but this is merely a symptom of one.

I think its a stupid law, even though I've never had the urge to pay for a prostitute.

I think george carlin summed up the hilarity of it.

Its illegal to charge for something thats perfectly legal to give away for free.

Originally posted by openyourmind1262
All of it should be legal. And if you've been married any amount of time. Your paying one way or the other.......

You compare wives to whores ? And someone's starred that ?

Rumors about the death of misogyny are very misplaced. For it's alive & well on ATS !

I wouldn't want my daughter to be a prostitute. Or anyone else's, for that matter. It should remain illegal. Most prostitutes have addiction problems, many have sexual disease. The women need help. But any man who goes with such a woman needs his brain examined ... for compromising his own health and that of his wife. And also for perpetuating the wretched life of the woman he pays to have sex with.

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Yes, let's legalize the spread of HIV and STDs.

reply to post by LeBombDiggity


I would agree with you that it is terrible and i don't understand the sort of person whether male or female who could participate in such awful things, hence the star...but the matter of the fact is that it happens anyway, and will continue to do so. Given this fact, shouldn't it be about making the practice as safe as possible for both parties involved through regulation?

Originally posted by mayabong
I think its a stupid law, even though I've never had the urge to pay for a prostitute.

I think george carlin summed up the hilarity of it.

Its illegal to charge for something thats perfectly legal to give away for free.

Exactly! Canada is a pretty decent place, low crime rate and all. Yet prostitution is legal in Canada, at least through a kind of legal loophole. The way it works is that the escort or prostitute is payed for her time only, and anything that happens between consenting adults during that time is none of the governments business. Don't believe it? Check out the yellow pages in any Canadian city. There is a reason the escort section is one of the largest categories. Just don't be caught picking up a prostitute in public. That is illegal. After all, the government can't have non-taxable transactions going on.

reply to post by LeBombDiggity

You compare wives to whores ? And someone's starred that ?

Your usage of the word whore includes a moral judgement. That is your judgement.

I wouldn't want my daughter to be a prostitute. Or anyone else's, for that matter. It should remain illegal. Most prostitutes have addiction problems, many have sexual disease. The women need help.

So prostitution should be illegal because you don't like it and these whores (your word) are diseased and do drugs.

And also for perpetuating the wretched life of the woman he pays to have sex with.

If you want to stop perpetuating injustice, allow prostitutes the chance for legitimacy. As it stands now, they can't call police if they need to, they can't use the court system, and they cannot use other legitimate means of helping themselves because they are demonized by people like you.

Also, it wouldn't be hard to find a prostitute that was completely clean. Many places that allow prostitution make sure that the people are tested often and use birth control.

bout tree fiddy.

LOL @ thinking paying for a prostitute is a deep-seated issue.
Some guys just want to get their squirt off because they're too busy to try and mingle, and bag a girl to duke.

Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
reply to post by paleorchid13

 

Yes, let's legalize the spread of HIV and STDs.

you don't think these things spread legally - and for free?

Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
reply to post by paleorchid13

 

Yes, let's legalize the spread of HIV and STDs.

A lot of cat houses test.. .and etc.

You're thinking of the porn industry..not the sex working industry..

I was watching taboo about sex, and it had sex workers, and they tested the guys before they had sex with them, and then made them take a shower..
you sound like one of those bitter women.

Originally posted by LeBombDiggity
Or anyone else's, for that matter. It should remain illegal. Most prostitutes have addiction problems, many have sexual disease. The women need help. But any man who goes with such a woman needs his brain examined ... for compromising his own health and that of his wife. And also for perpetuating the wretched life of the woman he pays to have sex with.

Most prostitutes have addiction problems?

How many do you personally know?

Maybe the reason they choose drugs and alcohol to drown their feelings is, because of all the morally righteous, self-centered hypocrites that choose to throw stones at glass houses.

Women that sell their bodies are easy targets because they have such low self-esteem, but the reality is if your daughter decided to become an Escort, wouldn't you want her to have the protections and safe guards that all other professionals have?