Ron Paul Wins DC Poll With Landslide And Give AWESOME Speech!

I like Ron Paul, really I do. I'll probably even vote for him. BUT, you guys gotta remember he's still a politician and he's still human. He has faults, just like the rest of us. He is NOT a cure-all. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he gets voted into office, and nothing much changes. Who knows? Only time will tell I guess. In the meantime, I do support him and his ideas.

Originally posted by Wookiep

You hear that boys? Im an extreme left winger (that should make me communist? why not just say that?) and I have it in for Ron Paul. Watchout!

What is that even supposed to mean?? You're a total biased left wing fraud. I don't care how many different ways you try to paint it. You come in to all these "Ron Paul" threads and tell lies like clockwork. Go tell your "boys" lol. Who the hell cares about your little shout-outs to your "boys". You're exposed. Tough shiz for you, pal.

Ummm......Methinks that it's actually.......Southern (poverty law center) Guardian, that might just be Mark Potok...If I hav'nt missed my...mark
That being said, I loved the video........Ron Paul is the only candidate with any integrity, and one of only two politicians that I even like........the other being Rand Paul.........

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why are we not occupying the real problem in north america, which is the main stream media. Fox, cnn, nbc,abc. Alll the media does nothing but spread lies disinformation, not tell the truth and have media blackouts on the real issues inc. ron paul. Put truthful reporters in place and you'll educate people real quick especially if they get the truth about 9/11.

Originally posted by schuyler
SURE he won. Observe:

Paul supporters are only fooling themselves. It's amazing what they will go through to get a "win."

Actually its totally the opposite. Ron Paul skeptics are fooling them self into thinking Paul doesn't have strong upward momentum. How can you go from 1% of the vote in 2007 to 37% of the vote in 2011 and say he doesn't have momentum. Paul peaked off at what, 6% last year in the polls? So far Paul has peaked of at 13% in the polls this year, so his support has at least doubled. And more significantly, he seems to be gaining more votes faster than last election. Clearly the guy is doing well, though not quite in winner territory yet. But to say he's got not shot at this point when he has upward momentum is ridiculous.

Paul's big day will be October 19th. Thats the day of his biggest money-bomb yet. If he can't at least come close to matching the $6 million money bomb he did in 2007, then I'll believe you're probably right. If he exceeds that, then I'll believe you're probably wrong.

This is all I'm going to say. 3 pages of reading stuff was enough. I love Ron, I love how he stands for us. Those against him I suppose would rather have the Government tell the whole 50 States what to do; and if the Gov't says no, that's it, across the board. At least letting States decide, it's only a yes or no in THAT State. I kind of like that idea a lot better even though it also has it's pros and cons. I think the People could have more say with their State than trying to take on the whole Govt to change something. See how well we''ve gotten the Gov't to change things for the USA so far?? Yeah, not so well. At least State by State, we have more of a chance to be heard and respected.

Originally posted by Kevincredible
why are we not occupying the real problem in north america, which is the main stream media. Fox, cnn, nbc,abc. Alll the media does nothing but spread lies disinformation, not tell the truth and have media blackouts on the real issues inc. ron paul. Put truthful reporters in place and you'll educate people real quick especially if they get the truth about 9/11.

great idea!! occupy the media i would imagine get allot of attention! we are sick of the manipulation and the lies that the corporate media spews... why not call alex jones to get the ball rolling........

theres an occupy the media on twitter !!! im going to sign up to the feed heres a snipit

@OccupyTheMedia Everywhere Mainstream traditional aka legacy media channels are not covering #OccupyWallStreet. What does that tell you about media ownership? We need to #OccupyTheMedia!

twitter.com...#!/OccupyTheMedia

Originally posted by Southern Guardian
...I've spoken to many conservatives and many don't like his isolationist stances, maybe this is the killer to his chances?

you and those many others are ignorant then if you talk about his "isolationist stances".You should totally do your homework before sticking your foot in your mouth

Originally posted by freepatriot
reply to post by LeeOben

 

people are more awake now then when they offed jfk i doubt they will take that chance

Not by much though. I don't believe that any of the power elite would just let this guy live and follow through with his promises of real change. Besides its been awhile since any american president has had an attempt on their life, so its kinda overdue.

Besides he gets put down, the population rises against, thus bringing in martial law. I can see that angle working for them.

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lol ron paul troll, I'm onto you.

reply to post by Southern Guardian


Because we win one vote at a time...just one. Just like cancer infects one cell at a time just one. But one is all it takes. Over time we will spread it could be at a slow rate maybe fast, but we will continue to spread one vote at a time there will be a time to come when we must be accounted for. Thats why we look at these straw polls. It means it's growing like a slow cancer spreading we might not get him elected but we will inject real issues that will one day need to be accounted for. And if and when those issues can't be just swept under a bail out or law and the public finally see's this system for what it really is..We Win thats why we care

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i doubt it will happen... Ron Paul needs to be swift in dismantling the cia ,military industrial complex and taking power away(and hopefully ending the fed reserve) if he does this in his 1st day in office he could pull it off...

The movement is growing daily. For those detractors (all two of you) that keep bringing up 2008, things were much different then. I voted for Obama, but he lied. I wish I had paid more attention to Dr. Paul then, but this time around I'm actively engaged in educating as many as I can about him and his true ideas. I'm volunteering, going to meet-ups, etc. Get used to saying 'President Ron Paul'.

Originally posted by LeeOben
I have been watching this guy for awhile now. Seems very honest and true. I'd be more likely to believe in this fella then any other politician, which says alot about my view on the subject.

However, I do have a bad feeling. Say he gets in office and starts acting on everything he promised. What card do you think is going to be played by the elite? JFK rings my warning bell. He'll get in, start making major changes that threaten the power elite. Can't have that, he's gotta go.

So they'll take him out and possibly use that in a spin on the war on terror or some sort of B.S. like that. Maybe the power elite will use this to their advantage in bringing full tyranny. Finalizing full domination of all of us.

Does anyone have the same sort of gut feeling?

The truly good always get knocked off. Thats how you know they were good people with good intentions and actions. If they make claims to being good and live unthreatened.... then chances are they lairs.

Do you realize what you are saying? In effect, you are saying that this country is run and owned by pure evil. Do you accept that as our reality? That anyone who is truly chosen by the electorate who has a good heart, good intentions, promises the change we want, and follows through by actually implementing the promised reforms rather than becoming a turn-coat the instant he is sworn in, will be murdered by the so-called "elite". Well, there's nothing "elite" about such people. They're nothing but filth swilling pigs who happen to have an accidental attribute call "lots of money" and are infested with the power and corruption that accompanies it.

Marie Antionette said "let them eat cake". Look what happened to her and her associates.

guy on CNN says Ron Paul is not doing very well in the polls because he talks about occupy wall street.
Well, Ron Paul talked about the Fed for 30 years, and he is doing very well in the polls...

Originally posted by 27jd
The movement is growing daily. For those detractors (all two of you) that keep bringing up 2008, things were much different then. I voted for Obama, but he lied. I wish I had paid more attention to Dr. Paul then, but this time around I'm actively engaged in educating as many as I can about him and his true ideas. I'm volunteering, going to meet-ups, etc. Get used to saying 'President Ron Paul'.

Exactly. The economy is at it knees. Who knows how the economy works, who has warned about the fed and the housing bubbles etc. When people realize Ron Paul is the one, why would they not vote for him.

This thread grew fast!

Originally posted by bottleslingguy
you and those many others are ignorant then if you talk about his "isolationist stances".You should totally do your homework before sticking your foot in your mouth

Ron Paul is an isolationist, atleast compared to the others. He wishes to withdraw troops and foreign bases, he even considers the idea of withdrawing US membership from the United nations. That comment of mine was not a snipe at Ron Paul because his foreign policy is one of the few issues I'm mostly in agreement with him on. I was stating fact however, that his views on US foreign involvement is one of the major reasons to why he hasn't been able to reach out to the majority of GOP voters. This is fact, this is reality, if you choose not to accept this, I can't force you to think otherwise.

Originally posted by empireoflizards
I'll respect your views,

Let me first say, thankyou for your post and the way you responded to me.

however, I'd like to add as a Ron Paul supporter that any opportunity to get the word out on his successes can still amount to something...even something as miniscule as a straw poll.

This is true I guess. Straw polls and other polls do by the least get the word out, but I don't believe that attention is self sustaining over the long term, as demonstrated over the last two elections. Straw polls provide temporary and for the most part minimal momentum in the elections, and it is very hard to maintain it over a certain period.

One thing I noticed about Ron Paul, more so often, and maybe I'm alone, is that he hardly comes across a skeptical voter, and yet he fails to get the vote in other presidential and primary elections. Why? Well people ca translate this as some conspiracy where he has the vote but the dark men in suits are preventing him from winning.... this is the easy explanation for a loyal Paul supporter. In reality it could just be because he isn't viewed as significant and relevant enough to be skeptical about for the general public. This is what I see, and this is why, when I see threads like these, I just see an attempt by his loyal supporters to ignore the reality of the large issues and hurdles with him gaining the presidency and the idea of him having a administration.

While the media or other powers-that-be are constantly marginalizing him as fringe or whatever, these little speeches and polls can show others that he is someone serious to contend with.

Ron Paul is and has always been a marginal figure in the public eye, and has been such atleast since 88' when he decided to run. He has this stigma stuck to him, and yet he refuses to change in order to reach out the bigger vote. This is possibly a good thing as in some ways he's sticking to his guns (Although I've spotted him slipping), but this has never done good for him. These ideas of going back to the gold standard, self reliance, the ability of the "free market", "end the fed", they sound like wonderful Rand utopian ideals, but it is far from reality to most folks. Obama is probably not that much different with his "hope and change" but by the least his policies were closer to reality. But hey, yet again it comes down to individual perception.

The internet is still becoming more and more significant as a means to get the word out for favorite candidates. Threads like this are a great means to "get the word out" to a significant audience and maybe continue to get people to reconsider what this man is really about.

This right here is very true. This thread is a campaign piece for Ron Paul, and his other loyal supporters do a good job spamming other forums and comment sections advocating his word. Although the internet, while very significant, is a very casual world. Anybody can start a website, an online journal, a forum. You can create multiple accounts in most places, you can pretend to be somebody, there is so much, almost unlimited opportunities the the virtual world to push and be something. In the end though, once you're off the computer, it's back to reality.

Originally posted by freepatriot
im sorrry to tell you but your views are a minority in this forum and prob the rest of the country...

This forum? Definately. The rest of the country? Judging by Ron Paul's performance over the last two elections and his support at this moment among the GOP voters alone, far from it.

just look at the number of stars u have received here... who are you trying to convince ?

You equate the number of stars to how truthfully and right a member is? And Paulers wish to complain about how the mainstream media..... Ah, you know, I don't think you're capable of understanding the irony in that comment of yours...

Who am I trying to convince? Nobody, because Paulers have stubbornly made up their minds. I'm just here to make my case. Not convinced? No sweat. Just go back to ogling the Ron Paul posts (and posters) if that serves you.

Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Ron Paul is an isolationist, atleast compared to the others. He wishes to withdraw troops and foreign bases, he even considers the idea of withdrawing US membership from the United nations. That comment of mine was not a snipe at Ron Paul because his foreign policy is one of the few issues I'm mostly in agreement with him on. I was stating fact however, that his views on US foreign involvement is one of the major reasons to why he hasn't been able to reach out to the majority of GOP voters. This is fact, this is reality, if you choose not to accept this, I can't force you to think otherwise.

He specifically calls his foreign policy "non-interventionism". Why don't you find out the difference between that and isolationism and then let me know if you still see a difference? I'm sure you will still qualify your silly statements with things like "atleast compared to the others". Your wanting to perpetuate the status quo by mincing words is in my humble opinion insane. He hasn't been able to reach out to them because of their ignorance and intolerance for change. I think they're all afraid of the Big Bad Boogeyman... it's fear based ignorance, not involved with reason and intellect.