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Originally posted by bphi1908
No need to look...wow! That statement really gives everyone some valuable insight as to where your coming from.
Originally posted by negativenihil
reply to post by bphi1908
Wow, Breitbart is your source?! Did you miss the part where i asked for non-fringe source for this? (Trick question, sorry...)
Nice try though
Originally posted by negativenihil
Originally posted by bphi1908
No need to look...wow! That statement really gives everyone some valuable insight as to where your coming from.
I feel like i'm the only (or at least one of a small handful) honest poster left on ATS these days.
Sad really.
Originally posted by negativenihil
reply to post by Swills
Here's something funny - so many people have cried and screamed "slander!" "lies!" in this thread, yet no one can actually back it up.
I've said nothing untrue. These are documented parts of Mr Paul's past.
I am not the first, nor will I be the last to say negative things about your hero. You all are just going to have to learn to deal with it constructively.
Originally posted by negativenihil
I feel like i'm the only (or at least one of a small handful) honest poster left on ATS these days.
Sad really.
Originally posted by negativenihil
Mr Paul took money, and later refused to return it - from a well known white-power group Storm Front. This is a fact.
Mr. Paul also wrote some very racist newsletters back in the 90s. This is a FACT.
His apologizing and changing his stance doesn't change the actions he's done in the past.
Originally posted by negativenihil
reply to post by Swills
Mr Paul took money, and later refused to return it - from a well known white-power group Storm Front. This is a fact.
Mr. Paul also wrote some very racist newsletters back in the 90s. This is a FACT.
articles.cnn.com...OLITICS
His apologizing and changing his stance doesn't change the actions he's done in the past.
re·pu·di·ate/riˈpyo͞odēˌāt/
Verb:
1. Refuse to accept or be associated with.
2. Deny the truth or validity of.
Definition of FALLACY 1 a obsolete : guile, trickery b : deceptive appearance : deception 2 a : a false or mistaken idea b : erroneous character : erroneousness 3 : an often plausible argument using false or invalid inference
None of the newsletters CNN found says who wrote them, but each was published under Paul's name between his stints as a U.S. congressman from Texas.
The controversial newsletters include rants against the Israeli lobby, gays, AIDS victims and Martin Luther King Jr. -- described as a "pro-Communist philanderer." One newsletter, from June 1992, right after the LA riots, says "order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks." Another says, "The criminals who terrorize our cities -- in riots and on every non-riot day -- are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are. As children, they are trained to hate whites, to believe that white oppression is responsible for all black ills, to 'fight the power,' to steal and loot as much money from the white enemy as possible."
In some excerpts, the reader may be led to believe the words are indeed from Paul, a resident of Lake Jackson, Texas. In the "Ron Paul Political Report" from October 1992, the writer describes carjacking as the "hip-hop thing to do among the urban youth who play unsuspecting whites like pianos."
The author then offers advice from others on how to avoid being carjacked, including "an ex-cop I know," and says, "I frankly don't know what to make of such advice, but even in my little town of Lake Jackson, Texas, I've urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming."
Definition of SHILL intransitive verb 1 : to act as a shill 2 : to act as a spokesperson or promoter
Originally posted by Swills
The white power storm front and the $500 donation his campaign accepted argument is really laughable
And as far as the newsletter nonsense, I posted a video above where RP addresses that issue and explains to you he didn't even write it.
But he selected the people who did write those things, and he put his name on the otherwise unsigned newsletters, and he raised campaign funds from the mailing list that those newsletters created. And he would have us believe that things that “do not represent what I believe or have ever believed” appeared in his newsletter for years and years without his knowledge. Assuming Ron Paul in fact did not write those letters, people close to him did. His associates conceived, wrote, edited, and mailed those words. His closest associates over many years know who created those publications. If they truly admire Ron Paul, if they think he is being unfairly tarnished with words he did not write, they should come forward, take responsibility for their words, and explain how they kept Ron Paul in the dark for years about the words that appeared every month in newsletters with “Ron Paul” in the title.
Paul says he didn’t write the letters, that he denounces the words that appeared in them, that he was unaware for decades of what 100,000 people were receiving every month from him. That’s an odd claim on which to run for president: I didn’t know what my closest associates were doing over my signature, so give me responsibility for the federal government.
But of course Ron Paul isn’t running for president. He’s not going to be president, he’s not going to be the Republican nominee for president, and he never hoped to be. He got into the race to advance ideas—the ideas of peace, constitutional government, and freedom. Succeeding beyond his wildest dreams, he became the most visible so-called “libertarian” in America. And now he and his associates have slimed the noble cause of liberty and limited government.
I wouldn’t vote against getting rid of the Jim Crow laws. -Ron Paul
Originally posted by Navieko
Mr. Paul also wrote some very racist newsletters back in the 90s. This is a FACT.
No... this is not fact, this is actually a LIE... and how you had the nerves to call yourself one of the "few honest posters" left on ATS is astounding! It was made very clear, even by those same "legitimate, non-fringe" sources that you so fondly speak of, that he did NOT write those particular "racist" articles...nor did he support/endorse them. He didn't even know about it.
So, Paulistas, you have to choose: Is your guy a racist or an idiot? Like 'em or not those are the only choices logic allows.
Originally posted by wasco2
So, Paulistas, you have to choose: Is your guy a racist or an idiot? Like 'em or not those are the only choices logic allows.