Steve Jobs Killed Religion

I just watched Steve Jobs 1984 presentation of the Mac.



We've certainly come a long way. The crowd OOHH's and AAHH's at what we acknowledge today as rudimentary.

That video was from the year I was born. My time on Earth has yielded technological advancements from that to this. Amazing stuff.

I try to put myself in that audience, OOHH'ing and AAHH'ing.

A time when knowledge was bestowed by teachers, piers, books, church, ect.

A time before Al Gore invented the internet.

And I understand precisely why my parents are Christian and I am not.

Ok. I'll raise my hand in class.

What exactly does this have to do with killing religion? Or religion at all for that matter?

reply to post by Klassified


You really can't comprehend what I wrote?

The internet made information available.

Before the internet how would you ever read about Horus?

The internet killed dogma.

Steve Jobs killed religion.

reply to post by soldita

Before the internet how would you ever read about Horus?

The same way we did before the internet. You see there is a big building called a library it has things in it called books you read the pages contained within just like on a monitor. This is how we learned things before the net.

So really what you're saying is that the world's entire wealth of knowledge is now readily available to nearly everyone (in the Western world at least) and we don't have to rely on a parent/Sunday school teacher/preacher to tell us what's what.

I totally agree OP...on another note, I've heard a lot of people say the internet has made us dumber because we don't have to go to libraries anymore but I disagree. There's an unbelievable amount of things I know about the world because of free and instant knowledge (at least from reputable sources)

I get what your saying. The only reason religious beliefs were so widely accepted was because people didn't have the benefit of having all the information they could possible want at there fingertips. If i went back in time to that meeting and showed them the movie legion and tell them only way to stop something like that happening was to do what ever i said. I bet the majority would.

Sorry if that made no sense but im hungry and i can smell dinner.

Originally posted by soldita
reply to post by Klassified

 

You really can't comprehend what I wrote?

The internet made information available.

Before the internet how would you ever read about Horus?

The internet killed dogma.

Steve Jobs killed religion.

The same way we did before the internet. You see there is a big building called a library it has things in it called books your read the pages contained within just like on a monitor. This is how we learned things before the net.

What Buster said says it all. I'm still an avid reader of real books. And I knew about Horus and RA, and others in the early 70's. Nevertheless, I do get your point. It seems the library is a forgotten place. But then, going from your perspective, it killed a lot more than religion, I would say.

Originally posted by buster2010
reply to post by soldita

 

Before the internet how would you ever read about Horus?

The same way we did before the internet. You see there is a big building called a library it has things in it called books you read the pages contained within just like on a monitor. This is how we learned things before the net.

edit on 6-10-2011 by buster2010 because: (no reason given)

And guess how many people were too lazy to go digging through that building for information before the internet. And then guess how many of us still are. The Dead Sea Scrolls are online right now. I can read them from my couch instantly and there's a much better chance I will now than 20 years ago

Originally posted by soldita
reply to post by Klassified

 

You really can't comprehend what I wrote?

The internet made information available.

Before the internet how would you ever read about Horus?

The internet killed dogma.

Steve Jobs killed religion.

LOL this is laughable.


Um ever heard of libraries or microfiche? I LIVED at my library, which btw had Apple computers

Steve Jobs killed religion? WOW that is a stretch...how about religion lying killed religion? OR how about why not blame the Pope for killing religion.

The internet made many people wake up and learn! You can only get so much information at a library I should know I read everything i could check out at two local libraries and was kicked out at closing time on a daily basis.

To me the internet is the greatest thing ever...since sliced bread that is. It is an unlimited library to me and I LOVE it. I love knowledge.....


I will now go back to learning on my Mac while using my iPod....thanks Steve!

reply to post by Hawking


You might. But the majority of people that were too lazy then, are just as lazy now, and won't do any more research than they did then.

Originally posted by buster2010
reply to post by soldita

 

Before the internet how would you ever read about Horus?

The same way we did before the internet. You see there is a big building called a library it has things in it called books you read the pages contained within just like on a monitor. This is how we learned things before the net.

edit on 6-10-2011 by buster2010 because: (no reason given)

but the difference isn't just the ease of getting information it is the wealth of it. No longer are you stuck reading a book and accepting it as the total truth because you can't find anything else on a subject.
Why do you think the bible was so big...

Originally posted by Hawking

Originally posted by buster2010
reply to post by soldita

 

Before the internet how would you ever read about Horus?

The same way we did before the internet. You see there is a big building called a library it has things in it called books you read the pages contained within just like on a monitor. This is how we learned things before the net.

edit on 6-10-2011 by buster2010 because: (no reason given)

And guess how many people were too lazy to go digging through that building for information before the internet. And then guess how many of us still are. The Dead Sea Scrolls are online right now. I can read them from my couch instantly and there's a much better chance I will now than 20 years ago

How do you know they are the real dead sea scrolls? Have you read them before? Or do you think they are the scrolls because you can read the language they are written in or because someone told you they are the real scrolls.

i wouldnt say he killed it so much as he put it in its rightful place.

with a world of information now available to almost everyone, it is much easier to learn about the world and how things work and not rely on hand me down hearsay.

it shows the true power of human intellect over the pure stupidity of blind faith in an imaginary friend

reply to post by Bixxi3


I'm not knocking the internet at all as a resource. Just as M said, I love it.

but the difference isn't just the ease of getting information it is the wealth of it. No longer are you stuck reading a book and accepting it as the total truth because you can't find anything else on a subject. Why do you think the bible was so big...

But this statement just isn't true. It took us a lot longer to get alternative views. But anyone willing to do the research, and put in the legwork, phone calls, and snailmail, could get what they were looking for as a whole.

But the internet has definitely streamlined that exponentially.

How do you know they are the real dead sea scrolls? Have you read them before? Or do you think they are the scrolls because you can read the language they are written in or because someone told you they are the real scrolls.

Well Google put the entirety of them online to read. And why would a printed version be more reputable? Just because I can hold it in my hand that makes it true?

Fredrick Nietzsche 1844-1900

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?
—Nietzsche, The Gay Science, Section 125

Steve Jobs didn't kill religion. He just made 3 wishes after the genie was let out of the bottle. He wasn't even the one who opened the bottle, but he got a ride on the magic carpet and some wishes.

In our day, the genie is freed. You can't put him back in the bottle. The jig is up, and no one can unring that bell.

Unless we blast ouselves back to the dark ages, we are living in an era in which we must redefine the purpose of and the way of life in a society where all that we need is at finger tips.

that thief had nothing to do with killing religion.. It was doing a good enough job of killing itself off long before that thief came along.

Excellent video! I really enjoyed it and would loved to have been in the audience. Very exciting.

Originally posted by soldita
That video was from the year I was born.
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And I understand precisely why my parents are Christian and I am not.

I just wanted to say a little about the idea that before the Internet, we didn't have access to information. As others have said, we had access to a world of information at public libraries. And there were many atheists before the Internet as well. My parents were also Christian and I am not. I think, more than the Internet in particular, it's simple scientific and technological advancements in general that are convincing people that we shouldn't be looking to the stars and the Sun god Ra, to make our crops grow.

reply to post by buster2010


Fair enough.

How many of you over the age of 25 knew about the Epic of Gilgamesh, Horus, and Krishna before year 1985?

Answer: nobody

reply to post by soldita


Wrong! All of these were known about long before 1985. The epic of Gilgamesh was published in 1901 translated.
And just because some here might not have been familiar with them doesn't mean they weren't available. Different people have different interests.