Email: 'Time to kill the wealthy'

Originally posted by Aim64C

There's some sound logic.

I am having trouble in these economic times. My response, however, is not to threaten to kill wealthy people.

People whose response to adversity is to rape and pillage from others have no business in society. They are vermin and will be removed when the situation makes their intent and resolve clear.

From the tone in your posts, that would be the last thing I would have EVER considered. "You having troubles in these economic times" BUT THEN 3,000 words demonisizing protesters. No rational person says violence is the best way, they say it may be necessary as a last resort solution against government and the "lobbyists" who push for globalism.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Mishmashum

 

how do you figure?

the military doesnt start wars civilians do and have a problem with that take it up with your fearless leader.

The military is a dog on a long leash, raised in a cage, and prodded with sticks. Perhaps the phrase "military-industrial complex" means something to you? Though I suppose it wouldn't surprise if it slipped your attention. And besides your throwaway comments miss the mark because I do blame those who were at top of the civilian government. It's an an abortion of justice that Eric Holder will never get the chance to put Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Bush on the stand to hold them accountable for their remorseless and wanton crimes against humanity. Murderers (state sanctioned or otherwise) eventually get their comeuppance one way or the other.

Oh and w.r.t your little outburst ... stop pretending to be a mini-mod you little sycophant. The information was public data available for anyone who wanted to look. Oh let me guess you're gonna go whine to the mods now? Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.

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Erik Holder to hold others accountable??

Sure sure.

Mr. Fast and Furious himself?
Mr. Don't investigate Voter Intimidation?




I haven't laughed like that in a while.

Thanks

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Shall I add in ten lines of laughing emoticons to follow your own non sequitur? Or are the words I'm using too big for you sewer dwellers?

When I care for your turbid opinion I'll address you. Until then shove off.

reply to post by Mishmashum
I can see where critical thinking might be something you're unfamiliar with.
Your knowledge of the military could fill a very small colouring book.

And Holder?

That had to be your attempt at being funny.

Originally posted by Mishmashum
reply to post by macman

 

Shall I add in ten lines of laughing emoticons to follow your own non sequitur? Or are the words I'm using too big for you sewer dwellers?

When I care for your turbid opinion I'll address you. Until then shove off.

OOOHHH! The old "When I want your opinion, I will beat it out of you" routine?

I really am scared.

Funny, as the Avatar of the dumb bomb for you speaks volumes.

But, go ahead Mr. Shove Off. Emoticon the Day Away.


The fact you suggest Erik Holder to look at investigating anyone is a joke.

Talk about a thief in the den of criminals.

You are too funny.

Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by sickofitall2012

 

In my view, this is not so much about them making all the money they can, it's about them buying out our government for their own gain. This is where the heart of the matter lies. If you or I had a business and took risks that put our business in jeopardy of going under, would the government give us a handout...bail out? NO! This is why people are so upset. Our policies have been crafted with those in control of our monetary system so they are the beneficiaries of those policies.

No conservative will ever talk about this. They fear the truth like cancer so they set out demonising the poor and calling them lazy, intentionally forgetting american corporations lobbied to be allowed to send jobs to asia, to overly automate, to have their poor decisions bailed out by the tax payer fool, etc.

Its disgusting to the core!!!

Originally posted by Mishmashum


...Eric Holder will never get the chance to put Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Bush on the stand to hold them accountable for their remorseless and wanton crimes against humanity. .

New documents obtained by CBS News show Attorney General Eric Holder was sent briefings on the controversial Fast and Furious operation as far back as July 2010. That directly contradicts his statement to Congress.


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...We the People will never get the chance to put Eric Holder on the stand to hold him accountable for his remorseless and wanton crimes against humanity. . in MEXICO.........

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by sickofitall2012

 

In my view, this is not so much about them making all the money they can, it's about them buying out our government for their own gain. This is where the heart of the matter lies. If you or I had a business and took risks that put our business in jeopardy of going under, would the government give us a handout...bail out? NO! This is why people are so upset. Our policies have been crafted with those in control of our monetary system so they are the beneficiaries of those policies.

No conservative will ever talk about this. They fear the truth like cancer so they set out demonising the poor and calling them lazy, intentionally forgetting american corporations lobbied to be allowed to send jobs to asia, to overly automate, to have their poor decisions bailed out by the tax payer fool, etc.

Its disgusting to the core!!!

Please don't peddle your BS, as if you speak for any conservative.

The person who is a Conservative, does not believe nor want Govt bail out of companies. Success and failure are in your own hands.

Please get your talking points at least coherent.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07

From the tone in your posts, that would be the last thing I would have EVER considered. "You having troubles in these economic times" BUT THEN 3,000 words demonisizing protesters. No rational person says violence is the best way, they say it may be necessary as a last resort solution against government and the "lobbyists" who push for globalism.

No, violence is not necessary or appropriate.

"But you just said..."

I just said I would exterminate those who start and perpetuate violence against a non-violent threat (the "wealthy" - which is just vague enough to allow it to turn into another damned witch hunt).

Look at the title of this thread. Look at the Union rallies. Look at some of the protesters (admittedly, not all) in this OWS movement ... thing.

I do not support or condone violence in dealing with domestic/economic/political issues. I am, however, not retarded. Hugs aren't going to stop people from breaking into another person's house and taking what they want by force. Words are also going to fall short of dealing with the problem.

And this is where many of the more peaceful in the OWS movement simply don't understand.... "they" aren't like "you." The violent ones, that is. They will, when the person with the right amount of charisma picks up the megaphone, quickly get 'out of control' (as though there was any to begin with) - and begin doing unspeakable things. They will even go well beyond the 'control' of the person(s) leading such actions. Houses will be burned, women will be raped, and many people will be killed.

It's how it generally goes.

Now - as for your own "it may be necessary..."

When?

When will it be necessary to use violence? After a week of no real 'progress?' A month? A year? Decade? After Congress passes the next raise on the debt ceiling (because we know that is going to happen, more likely than not)?

And violence against who/what? I can see how tearing up the down-town of a few cities is going to really solve things (sarcasm, if you didn't catch it). Or, how about just targeting the wealthy people.... how does that work? Who is wealthy? Hell - in this day and age, if you have your house paid off, you are a pretty damned wealthy person. Or is it just the guy who lives in a fancy looking house or has a hotel/apartment suite instead of economy housing?

How do you go about using violence to solve the problem? Or have you thought that far ahead, yet?

Originally posted by Aim64C
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Compare that to these Wal-Street protests. Half the retards don't even know why they are there. Not a one of them there actually understand the problems that led to our current economic situation (or they wouldn't be "occupying wall street" - they would be pitching a fit at Capitol Hill).

Your grasping for straws sir. Wall Street and the USA government is one and the same thing. For someone who calls protesters "retards" I would expect them to understand basic stuff like this.

I have zero confidence in their leadership capabilities.

This nation was not born out of chaotic protests and demonstrations. It was born out of our own necessity to govern and function independently so far away from the British Crown. We were our own country, making many of our own decisions and collecting many of our own taxes long before we started protesting British taxes.

What you are talking about doing is completely throwing out our current system and replacing it with, quite literally, packs of raving monkeys.

Packs of raving monkeys I don't much care for. I'm no fan of socialists - and most of these wall-street protesters can be categorized as such. I will not respect any institution they establish through the use of coercion, and will seek to remove it, myself.

And that, kids, is what is called a civil war.

The so-called "socialists" are not seeking a civil war, they are meerily protesting against corruption!

The only ones seeking civil war are the right wing lunatics that support corruption. Go ahead and bring your paramilitary fools to NYC and I hope everyone attacks them. They deserve no respect!

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Mishmashum

 

I can see where critical thinking might be something you're unfamiliar with.
Your knowledge of the military could fill a very small colouring book.

And Holder?

That had to be your attempt at being funny.

Well if you are who you pretend to be doc. I'd think you'd be more familiar with the civilian component of the government and less with the Shinseki's. Then again if military intelligence is what it appears to be it's something of an oxymoron. Perhaps we should resurrect Rumsfeld and the rest of the old gang from the grave to breathe new life into old stupidity by redisbanding the Iraqi military all over again. That would make for a nice coloring book, don't you think?

This is all besides the point though because I don't care if it's Holder or any other AG that takes down the bag of crooks. Moreover I have no intention of engaging in a conversation with you because I believe I've demonstrated you're a tool operating a government run sock puppet. So it would be stupid to expect I could get any real conversation out you. I'll simply say this. Anyone who reads this, look up beezzer's domain name using whois ( TheDiogenesGroup.com ). You'll find everything you need to know.

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And my retort to you

reply to post by silent thunder
Remember this is a peaceful protest ,this e-mail didn't come from the movement.....this protest will be used in any way by the powers to further their agenda...don't fall for it.

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Mine's better:

Originally posted by Mishmashum
reply to post by macman

 

Mine's better:

You really think I, or Beezer would punch you in the no-no zone?

You really don't know us then.

But, ok.

reply to post by Mishmashum
Typical progressive.
When you can't argue the point, either change the narritive or insult.

Pitiful.

heres the winner cause beezer and the military aint got squat to do with the op

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by sickofitall2012

 

In my view, this is not so much about them making all the money they can, it's about them buying out our government for their own gain. This is where the heart of the matter lies. If you or I had a business and took risks that put our business in jeopardy of going under, would the government give us a handout...bail out? NO! This is why people are so upset. Our policies have been crafted with those in control of our monetary system so they are the beneficiaries of those policies.

No conservative will ever talk about this. They fear the truth like cancer so they set out demonising the poor and calling them lazy, intentionally forgetting american corporations lobbied to be allowed to send jobs to asia, to overly automate, to have their poor decisions bailed out by the tax payer fool, etc.

Its disgusting to the core!!!

Please don't peddle your BS, as if you speak for any conservative.

The person who is a Conservative, does not believe nor want Govt bail out of companies. Success and failure are in your own hands.

Please get your talking points at least coherent.

Then you should be at the protests in downtown nyc against wall street and the government rather than giving people on ATS a hardtime herding them all as violent revolutionary socialists. Give me a break we are not maoists despite the effort of some people to make it look that way.

The email was fake and further to the point it had very little to do with the nation. It had more to do with new york state and its finances.

BTW your signature of "work hard because millions depend on you for welfare" is kind of disgusting and sidetracks from the bigger issues. People who demonise the poor live in fantasy land and probably haven't gotten their hands dirty in a long, long, long time.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07

Your grasping for straws sir. Wall Street and the USA government is one and the same thing. For someone who calls protesters "retards" I would expect them to understand basic stuff like this.

For someone who claims to understand basics, I would expect a grasp of the difference between the possessive annotation of "you" and the contraction of "you are."

Perhaps you could enlighten me. How is it that Wall Street and the Government are one in the same?

By all means - tell me how share traders are the government. This should be entertaining. While you're busy with your comedy routine, I'll address your other comment:

The so-called "socialists" are not seeking a civil war, they are meerily protesting against corruption!

Did we miss the title of this thread? Have you been paying attention to the Union rallies (who are now beginning to take advantage of this OWS movement)?

The problem is that they are protesting. They aren't actually doing anything - they don't have a goal or purpose. They are not looking for a civil war, no. However - it is not difficult to convince them that violent actions (a task they can accomplish simply by picking up bottles and throwing them at people... later to acquire more devastating weaponry such as incendiary devices and small arms) are the way to go.

The only ones seeking civil war are the right wing lunatics that support corruption. Go ahead and bring your paramilitary fools to NYC and I hope everyone attacks them. They deserve no respect!

You really have no concept of how this would go down. For starters - your peaceful protest would have to be not so peaceful any longer. Second - if I go to New York (or any other city) - I will be completely on the offensive from the moment boots hit the ground. It will not be "I hope they attack you" - the only notice you'll get that a response has been organized is precise small arms fire targeting identifiable leadership and area-effect weapons (may be fragmentation ordnance if it is available, or non-lethal crowd control weapons - kind of depends upon what is available).

Those who do not immediately disperse will be gunned down within seconds of their failure to comply. Those who do disperse will be pursued and any attempts to re-organize will be met with similar area-of-effect suppression and precision fire upon identifiable leaders.

You'll be hit hard and the pressure will not let up.

You think we'll show up like riot police and be nice. That's simply not the way it will go down. By the time we get involved - it's long gone past the point of a protest.