I've been against the "NWO" for 15 Years, but now realise my mistake, we should be embracing it!.

Hello to all whether it be Morning Noon or Night where you are.

I'd like to start of with this quote which set's the sentiment for the posting of this thread...

"When I say that peace must be planned on a world basis, I mean quite literally that it must embrace the earth.... And it is inescapable that there can be no peace for any part of the world unless the foundations of peace are made secure throughout all parts of the world.... Its accomplishment depends primarily upon acceptance by the peoples of the world.... So unless today, while the war is being fought, the people of the United States and of Great Britain, of Russia and of China, and of all the other United Nations, fundamentally agree on their purposes, fine and idealistic expressions of hope such as those of the Atlantic Charter will live merely to mock us... They will become real only if the people of the world forge them into actuality."

- Wendell L. Willkie


...so here it is, and let me make it clear that this isn't about any "conspiracies" of any sort, these are just my thoughts after 14 years of reading, watching or listening to information from the "other side of the story" so to speak and closely watching how the story of Mankind is unfolding and also to try and reach out to like minded individuals who are more focused on trying to fix a broken out of date system than trying to lay to blame at those who willingly or not seek to keep it broken.

Up until the age of about I had lived a "normal rosy life", both parents had good jobs, lived in a nice house on a nice street had lots of friends, good family etc etc etc, then one of my friends told me about a book one of their parents had called Gods Of The New Millennium, and the pictures in it of ancient artifacts were enough to blow the lid of my mind, then I read it and that was the catalyst for my search for the answer to the question, "why are we here".

I'm a Catholic so was brought up with the belief that the Earth and life was created by god who made Adam and Eve and things started from there, so it came as quite a shock to discover that Mankind had not only been around for far longer than what I'd been led to believe but that the ancients we're also far more advanced than what I'd been led to believe. It was also astonishing to discover that the story of Jesus Christ is in no way original and that the same story has been told numerous times over.

That really came as a bit of a shock, I couldn't understand why some of the things I had read in that book had, not really been hidden from me but hadn't been taught to me in any of my education because the information I had read in GOTNM changed everything in regards to Mankind's origins, so instinctively looked for the answer to the question, "why wasn't I taught that in school".

I was talking to another friend about the book I had read who then told me something that completely blew my mind apart about the, "Illuminati", explained as a small group of people who "control" the World, WHAT??!! I thought, no way, The World back then to me was large and relatively unconnected like it is today but as the years rolled on and the fact you could be sat a good few thousand miles away and maybe read this minutes after me posting shows how connected we've become, with which the World has become a much smaller place.

It's the year 2011 and nothing much has changed in my 32 years on this Earth, war still rages around the Planet, millions of People are still homeless or starving or both, while billions of People throw away billions of pounds of waste food every year, and what's become glaringly obvious over the last few years is that "just because that's how it's always been done" doesn't mean that's the way it always has to be, especially when it defies all logic and basic common sense.

There has been a lot of hype over the last few years about the fast approaching 2012, and whatever your wildest theories may be one thing is for certain, it's the end of an age, and how we proceed with the new is up to us, do we really want to continue on this path of capitalistic materialism fed society, or change a system that has been broken for far too long and which only seeks to benefit a minority?

I don't have all the answers, but I'm full of ideas of how to start the change, and what's important at this point is that all those that acknowledge we need to change, no matter where you are on the Planet, need to unite in some way shape or form.

Change should have started long a go...



...but capitalism and greed seems to have got in the way and everyone was too busy lapping it up, but now in a World where money is created out of thin air, how are we a World in debt, it's because people we're encouraged to "live for today" because tomorrow never comes right, but it's here now and it's up to us, THE PEOPLE to demand the change so so many of us can see we need to make.

To try and summarize the thread title, the World has and continues to shrink we need a "New World Order" because we are in a "New Age", but it's us the People that need to dictate how we move forward, and not the capitalists that have and continue to destroy this life and World, all in order to make a profit for the few, at the detriment of the many.

I'll end with this...

"We can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."

- Albert Einstein

reply to post by Neo-V™


Actually if you think you have known about the NWO then you are a new kid on the block. If you have decided to side with TPTB because TSHF shortly doesn't make you right. Now that you have convinced yourself why you should side with what apparently you believe the is the winning side doesn't make that fact either. Get over it nothing to see here.

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If you side with TPTB you side with the condoning of killing 95% of the world population.

Its written on the Georgian Guide Stones which were setup by TPTB.

I would like to see the world under one government though, so human co-operation can begin the new era and we don't have kill each other anymore, that i would look forward too.

Also if I didn't get RFID chipped in my body i would be happy with the whole NWO.

But the NWO comes with a catch, 95% of people in the world die and the rest get chipped whom they choose to live.

The NWO aren't you're friends, they don't want to help you, and they mass murder people. They do it for money, you can see this with the current war in Afghan and Iraq.

Edited to add: And as an added bonus they poison the food, water, and air that everyone uses.

Great...
So what did YOU change?
Did you take a pass on the new " I- whatever v.2" gismo? Have you quit texting; sexting... mexting?..."turned off the MSm t.v.hypnosis box? Quit driving automobiles?
Did you cook a meal from scratch or stop at the "mc food" window on the way home?
Cut up the credit cards?Perhaps started learning a hands on valuable skill?

IMHO REAL "change begins with each of us looking hard at ourselves not ushering in chambersfull of new potentates to rule over us.. Certainly not subjugating our freedoms to some worldbody full of "I know better than you: do -gooders"...

I couln't agree more with you OP,
we need a new world order,
in fact it is the inevitable course of human evolution wether we like it or not.

reply to post by redrose123

Not quite sure how being aware of something for Fifteen years means I am new to all this, and I'm on the "winning" side, the peoples side, if you assume otherwise I suggest you read what I've wrote instead of assuming what I meant meant based on the title of the thread. The problem however is that we're not organized enough despite being united, not by the numerous and various conspiracy subjects, but that things need to change.

Originally posted by Quickfix
If you side with TPTB you side with the condoning of killing 95% of the world population.

Don't recall stating or even hinting at that, and the point of the post is obviously missed on you too.

Originally posted by QuickfixI would like to see the world under one government though, so human co-operation can begin the new era and we don't have kill each other anymore, that i would look forward too.

Me too. Although we don't necessarily need just the one, we just need People in power who serve the people.

Originally posted by QuickfixThe NWO aren't you're friends, they don't want to help you, and they mass murder people. They do it for money, you can see this with the current war in Afghan and Iraq.

Again you've missed the point! The World is, has and continues to change with a guided progression by the global elite, the direction of which isn't going to change anytime soon, unless we finally, in 2011, as a far more knowledgeable society than we were say 30/40 years ago, stand up as a Global unit of Human-Beings and demand change.

Why in 2011, when we know money is created out of thin air is the World still in debt?

Why in 2011, when we know 100 years ago a technology existed that if realized meant we wouldn't have had to rape and pollute the Earth, along with the fact that there are hundreds, if not thousands of similar inventors with similar technologies TODAY, are we still raping and polluting the Earth?

I already know your answers, "the powers that be", "Illuminati", blah blah blah, the way I now see it is that the reason it continues is because WE stand by and allow it.

Originally posted by 46ACE
So what did YOU change?

My thinking. We don't need to undo the progression we've made, we just need to change the direction of it.

If people are going to respond trying to educate me about things I've been well aware of for a long long time, understand this, there is probably nothing you can tell, show, or enlighten me about in regards to some of the things already mentioned by the posters on this thread, my intention is create the "Peoples New World Order", which I hope would bring an end to World wars, famine, greed etc etc etc, and while that might be a far fetched vision of which I'm under no illusion would be perfect in every sense, I have no doubt it's a preferred vision to the system which we have now.

A new world order sounds great on paper...but so does communism. More fair and peaceful. Bit a new world order could never be came upon peacefully. You would be told what to do, what to believe, what to watch and read. You think it would balance everything out..and it would balance us out...but by knocking us all down and the scales would tip even more heavily in favor of powers that be.

reply to post by Neo-V™


A people's new world order? Now... I've never heard that one. Sounds lovely. And extremely naive if you have any belief in that ever happening. We can't get the worlds leaders to agree... Do you really think that that worlds people would? That's like trying to get ten people on the same page having it fail and upping the number for 2nd try!!!

I like the idea, but the conspiracy NWO is clearly evil with the whole killing everybody and brainwashing them

Maybe you don't understand what New World Order means. Here is a small part of the BIG picture. Honestly, you think this is a GOOD thing?????

www.threeworldwars.com...

"A One World Government and one-unit monetary system, under permanent non-elected hereditary oligarchists who self-select from among their numbers in the form of a feudal system as it was in the Middle Ages. In this One World entity, population will be limited by restrictions on the number of children per family, diseases, wars, famines, until 1 billion people who are useful to the ruling class, in areas which will be strictly and clearly defined, remain as the total world population.

There will be no middle class, only rulers and the servants. All laws will be uniform under a legal system of world courts practicing the same unified code of laws, backed up by a One World Government police force and a One World unified military to enforce laws in all former countries where no national boundaries shall exist. The system will be on the basis of a welfare state; those who are obedient and subservient to the One World Government will be rewarded with the means to live; those who are rebellious will simply be starved to death or be declared outlaws, thus a target for anyone who wishes to kill them. Privately owned firearms or weapons of any kind will be prohibited."

Oustanding link gridrebel really sums it up!
OP. you'd better "bone up"(study) what the he** you're advocating!)

www.threeworldwars.com...

reply to post by Neo-V™


I also was raised Catholic and asked similar questions regarding the age of Earth and the birth of Jesus.
I actually once asked a priest if Jesus was a test tube baby, you could only imagine his response.

The age of Earth can be understood if you think outside the box and realize that both science and Biblical text actually compliment each other.

The tree of knowledge of good and evil is actually "science" because the end result was exactly what the serpent had promised, that man himself would become like God, because now man is on the verge of creating life as well.

Regarding greed, you need to understand it is not money that is evil, it is the LOVE of money that is truly evil because greed is the result of money itself taking control of ones actions.

What you need to ask yourself is whether you feel the NWO is either good or evil, I for one would say it is evil

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reply to post by 46ACE

SO, we're never going to have a nwo, but you want we to study the nwo tptb are creating and that is evil in intent. Have any of you read what I've wrote, because so far no one has grasped what it is I'm trying to say, evident by repeating the same thing telling me about something I've already stated I'm well aware of.

Originally posted by Quickfix
If you side with TPTB you side with the condoning of killing 95% of the world population.

+/- 5% (margin for error)

reply to post by Shar_Chi


Yeah 5% give or take.

Its up to TPTB.

My guess would be around 97-98% or 500 Million which is what it says in stone.

It sounds like what you really mean is that it would be great if we all realized our selfish and greedy ways were bad and decided to all get along, not resisting anything and go with the flow. Give to those in need and love our neighbor, with all people treated equally and fair. And enough food and drink for everyone.

It's a nice thought but that is not NWO. I think they call it Utopia or Nirvana or Heaven.

reply to post by Neo-V™


A NEW WORLD ORDER MEANS A END TO HUMANITY YOU IDIOT

SERIOUSLY A END TO RELIGION AM A CHRISTIAN AND I BELIEVE IN GOD

A NEW WORLD ORDER CAN MEAN THAT THERE CAN BE A POSSIBILITY OF A

NEW RELIGION , IT CAN PROVOKE WAR UPON US AND ........its just not right , but its gonna happen anyway

so yeah , if you look at the population growth of the world offcorse there's gonna be a food crises , ofcorse there's
gonna be a WWIII , and one world leader that will promise peace to the world and be hailed (Anti-Christ in my opinion\Believes)
but the question is WHEN?

ive done some research and the time line that ive found is between 2018-2022

i don't know just have to wait and see