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Originally posted by hdutton
The short answer to this question is ..... no.
If I could show you an example of such an event, it would not have been successful, would it?
As far as the "mistaken identity". Most of the visas required for these people to enter the US were issued through the US consulate in Jedda. They had to have some identification to show who they were, but I still think they were identified rather quickly after the planes struck the buildings. Yet there are these people living in the middle east with the same names and the same faces which match up with these visas. I don't know just what constitutes "mistaken identity" but I do feel that something is not quite right.
Originally posted by hdutton
reply to post by WarminIndy
There is also the lingering question of the pool of molten metal which was present under the rubble of each of the three buildings which collapsed into their own foot prints.
Originally posted by NWOwned
Originally posted by hdutton
reply to post by Varemia
One thing that bothered me on 9/11 as I watched the TV was Giuliani. I even felt he was coached and was being 'managed' that day as he trotted through the street. Much has been typed on here about that terrorist passport, mostly about how paper and plastic is stronger than a black box, not so much about what group actually found it laying in the street... yeah, not so much.
Se how logic and critical analysis works?
The reason why they were identified quickly is obvious- they knew right away thy were hijacked planes so the first thing the Feds did was to pull the passenger lists to see who was aboard, so they can try to identify the suspects. When they see a list of names like "Joe Smith", "Randy Jones", "Mohammed Atta", and "Betty Green" which name do YOU think stands out like a sore thumb?
So molten metal should really be called the liquid formerly known as solid, does what all liquids do, it follows the path to the lowest point.How many days was the WTC smoldering? Hmm, so there was molten metal found in pools under the rubble. Where else do you expect to find it?
They have taken the most basic concepts and twisted the words to get people to fall for it. Dylan Avery did that very thing, he made a lot of money twisting words and then recanted. Not only did he twist words, he left information out, asked a question for you to supply the answer to the non-evidence.
Originally posted by hdutton
reply to post by WarminIndy
The questions I have concerns the source of heat which kept the metal in a liquid state after the initial fires were extinguished. All heat is exothermic. If a material is not continually heated by some source it will begin to cool. And in the case of metals, solidify. Under normal circumstances the metal should have become a large chunk within hours, if not minutes, after the dust settled. But it did not. WHY.
As the videos by Dylan Avery; I have never watched them. I could not see exchanging one pile of BS for another.
It may take me longer, I would much rather "hash out" all the information I can get on my own in order to find my own conclusions, rather than blindly accept what someone else tells me I should believe.
I may never learn the "real truth" entirely, but I will be much better satisfied with what little I do find. This is why I reject being catagorized as a "truther". I prefer the tittle of questioner.
We don't have to agree with actions our government takes, but we should never just assume what they are telling us is wrong.
Originally posted by SunnyDee
reply to post by hdutton
The OS'rs seem to be the most diluded bunch on these 911 threads. They never look at anything from a new angle,
but they throw insults at those that do. Not a strong sign of intelligence, but certainly a strong sign of a small paycheck.
Carry on Questioners!
Originally posted by WarminIndy
reply to post by WarminIndy
Is it a new theory that people who believe the OS are being paid to believe it? Pretty interesting theory there, I wonder who made it up.
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Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by anoncoholic
You sir, are a liar and I'm calling you out. If you don't know you are lying, then you are unwittingly spreading false information.
Yes, steel does not burn, but it weakens when heated.
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Don't pretend to know the truth when really you are just regurgitating spoon-fed lies.
Originally posted by anoncoholic
and at what temperature does it become molten?
seems like I hit a sore spot in your psyche... too close to the truth perhaps? Call me a liar and try to ignore the proof presented, typical of your methodology
Originally posted by Varemia
Originally posted by anoncoholic
and at what temperature does it become molten?
seems like I hit a sore spot in your psyche... too close to the truth perhaps? Call me a liar and try to ignore the proof presented, typical of your methodology
And where was this molten metal? It was nowhere in the tower before collapse. Only weeks afterward after the heat had been smoldering. Ever heard of gradual heating?
It's not that you hit a soft spot. It's that I have no tolerance for the spreading of ignorance. I am a member of ATS, and I will deny ignorance as much as possible!
Originally posted by anoncoholic
Originally posted by Varemia
Originally posted by anoncoholic
and at what temperature does it become molten?
seems like I hit a sore spot in your psyche... too close to the truth perhaps? Call me a liar and try to ignore the proof presented, typical of your methodology
And where was this molten metal? It was nowhere in the tower before collapse. Only weeks afterward after the heat had been smoldering. Ever heard of gradual heating?
It's not that you hit a soft spot. It's that I have no tolerance for the spreading of ignorance. I am a member of ATS, and I will deny ignorance as much as possible!
as I have no tolerance for liars. I suppose all those vids with molten steel pouring down the side of the towers was just a lensflare or sundog? I suppose the molten core of the earth just happened to bubble up on 911 too just like all the other fallacy's you would have us buy into?
If you are the representative of the will of ATS perhaps I am in the wrong venue..., I thought deny ignorance meant expose it rather than close the blinds
Originally posted by Varemia
Originally posted by anoncoholic
Originally posted by Varemia
Originally posted by anoncoholic
and at what temperature does it become molten?
seems like I hit a sore spot in your psyche... too close to the truth perhaps? Call me a liar and try to ignore the proof presented, typical of your methodology
And where was this molten metal? It was nowhere in the tower before collapse. Only weeks afterward after the heat had been smoldering. Ever heard of gradual heating?
It's not that you hit a soft spot. It's that I have no tolerance for the spreading of ignorance. I am a member of ATS, and I will deny ignorance as much as possible!
as I have no tolerance for liars. I suppose all those vids with molten steel pouring down the side of the towers was just a lensflare or sundog? I suppose the molten core of the earth just happened to bubble up on 911 too just like all the other fallacy's you would have us buy into?
If you are the representative of the will of ATS perhaps I am in the wrong venue..., I thought deny ignorance meant expose it rather than close the blinds
There were lead batteries and aluminum there, both of which have very low melting points... Have you not been here long or something? I mean, I know you're probably in it for the stars, but seriously, I'm talking about facts.
It's almost depressing how attacked I get for pointing out what is really there.
Now, if you need proof, I could show you that there was a floor full of batteries right where the fire was in the towers. But, let me guess. You'll think it's molten steel anyway. How typical... aaaand I'm bored with this crap again. ATS has failed me.