StrangerThanFiction39, will u please post info about Area 51?

That is the most Fantastic story I have ever heard.......lately.

If true, its all the more reason why most of planet Earth Hates America.....

So, as you say, there are 1000s of Earth made "Ships" that travel to other solar systems, with only one little one having the power to destroy Earth...but, there is no ET anywhere in all these 1000s of other planets?????

Then why would bloodthirsty, warmongering America, build all those war machines if there is noone to fight with?

What is the point of any mighty military, if one little "ship" can destroy the Earth?

What do the Peladiens, Andromadeans, Koldasians, Zeta Reticulans, say about this?

What do the Subterranean Biped Sauroids say about this?

What do America's "Allies" think about all this?

Why waste money on SETI or rovers on Mars?

So Humans had great tech, but sent the EC to the moon in tin cans, barely big enough for 3 humans....

Yep...makes complete sense to me....thankyou for this information.

Thank you for responding to my questions, inane as they were.

I have more questions which may or may not be more intelligent as the others.

You are saying there is a entire society and culture that revolves around the other worlds and space travel.
I would like to know why? Why not take all of us into this? Why leave 99.9% of the human race behind?
Why are we not allowed to be involved?

Seriously, he is suffering from Pseudologia Fantastica or Confabulation. If you continue, his condition will only get worse. So I'm begging you. Let it go. It is the only way to treat this type of illness.

Originally posted by StrangerThanFiction39

Some time ago there were two philosophies. One was that there were moral limits as to what should be done, studied, and that there is innately ingrained in us good and evil. The other camp said that was false, and concepts such as good and evil would hold us back. The latter camp won. There is no such thing as unethical, the only concerns are whether a thing can be done and is there a benefit to doing it. There is nothing that will not be done if it serves a purpose.

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Project paperclip brought the Nazi ideology to America along with the scientists and their tech then? God help us all, the Third or now Fourth Reich is alive and well.

Forgive me but this whole story sounds like a hotch potch of Iain Banks' Culture series of novels with a bit of Jack L Chalker thrown in, maybe his Rings Of The Master series. A super computer sheparding humanity for the greater good.

Tell me, has the 'EC' managed to build a Ringworld or a Dyson Sphere yet at all? Also using the Kardashev scale what class of civilisation are we really? 1 2 or 3? At the moment without all this fantasticness we are about a 0.72.

Can't believe no one else has even brought it up yet but are you familiar with The CHANI Project where we supposedly accidentally came in contact with a parallel version of Earth?

Link is here if you're not:

thechaniproject.com...

I mean, the whole supercomputer thing, thinking for itself, having such huge capabilities really reminded me of that and made me wonder if The CHANI Project was somehow a part of that, whether two dimensions crossed over or whether it was an EC/CC that was actually communicating with the scientists involved.

Thanks for the posts and you know, gut instinct and something within my brain are both telling me that what you say could be possible. It makes sense to me.

Perhaps those who encountered alien life were actually seeing glitches or hallucinations somehow being created by the EC/CC? Unless they are real and somehow slip through without being spotted by such a hugely intelligent source which is doubtful.

Could "channeled messages" also come from this thing?

Fascinating.

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firstly, thanks for coming here and sharing.

some of what you have said about an engineered consciousness reminds me of "hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" - being that an effort was made to make a computer smart enough to figure out the meaning of life.. etc etc i'm sure you are familiar. the reason it made me think of that, which could provide an entrance for your reply, would be 'what exactly is the point of creating this computer'. i think you've already mentioned some reasons, such as being a 'tool' for humanity that could think of ways to protect humans from outside threads or whatnot, however; i am so far suggesting that this not the real intention. as you told the computer started on earth and now encompasses a system that exceeds our solar system. this is a large project obviously with a goal worth covering up and expanding.

also, have you heard of the montauk project? supposedly one of the scientists (al bielek) accidently traveled into the future, i think 2749 was the date. he claimed that during that time humanity lived in large communities that were organized by a central artificial ( but not realy artificial ) conciousness. if i remember correctly, that conciousness was the sum total of the beings living within the community and had something to do with crystals and things that were not so much parascientific but sort of unworldly to what most people would deem science. if you really are working two jobs, a cover job and a real top secret job, i doubt you would have time to look into the montauk project if you haven't already become aware of it but if you haven't maybe when you do have time you'd like to read into it. the mention of this engineered conciousness computer reminded me of al bielek's claims on this future date he supposedly traveled to.

as for your mention that there are no extra terrestials, or beings that are not indigenous to earth that have so far been found. i'm not saying that it isn't possible, it certainly is. i don't know though, that would lead me to believe the people claiming to see aliens or be obducted were either lying, or that the coverup of this computer included years and years of efforts to create fake alien races like the greys and the reptilians and influence. it's not out of the realm of possibility for me. though in the montauk project were claims of 'alien' races working with humans, such as greys and reptilian beings.

i'm just thinking out loud here but i would tend to believe that you are not in a position to truely claim wether or not there is life indigenous to places beyond earth. that is, on a need to know basis, you don't need to know - hence your strong assertion on that subject. or perhaps as i mention, due to your 'contract' on dispelling information here at ATS you are required to make this claim. one percent lie, can keep 99 percent truth hidden sometimes.

certainly it could be possible that you do in fact know of the existence of extra terrestial life, however; in your 'grant' to post here you've been limiting to lying about this fact.

thanks again for sharing

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That's pretty much what I said on the last page... it's Banks' novel's woven into Area 51...

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I saw your post after I posted, I was still reading through the thread. Your right, its very similar to Iain Banks. Do we have a sci-fi nut with time on his hands? There are parts that seem similar to a few well known sci-fi authors. Larry Niven and his Known Space Universe also springs to mind.

Originally posted by Grifter81
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Do we have a sci-fi nut with time on his hands? .

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I would guess so Grifter... if it's all true then I'll eat my tin foil hat my friend

O M G I know this computer....
CLEVERBOT
The secrets out

My biggest question would be what have you learn't about what happens when we die and the afterlife in your endeavors strangerthanfiction?

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You and I both mate, you and I both..

Hmmm, a dolphin hybrid woman would be fun to have I bet. However, I don't see why they would have to be gotten rid of if humans with a higher IQ wouldn't have stood a chance. Unless of course, real relationships occurred or they were not as stupid as once thought.

Personally, I would see no other use for a holodeck/matrix sim then sex and realistic games, just like porn though, it takes more and more to "impress". Maybe 1% of its use would be training, but thats it.

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as to this date no life has been found on any planet other than Earth. The closest we have come to finding life are alien "viruses" that have caused several outbreaks

All I do know is that we have never encountered any ET life, even microbial life, on thousands of worlds we have visited.

As viruses are infectious agents, and can only replicate within the cells of a biological host, how do these two above quotes correlate?

Are you saying that the viruses that were discovered can replicate outside of a host, and if so, what were they?

How it works I don't actually know, and the mathematics behind the calculations must be staggering, and is all done by the CC onboard the ships. Basically they remove the distance between two places and you can travel theoretically any distance with the proper calculations instantaneously.

Interesting.

Particle or solar systems can be reduced to a probability of numbers varying between time and place (which are the same, yet apart), and from this reduction can be derived the position of a particle, or its momentum. Do you utilize Locators (sentient trans-dimensional actuators) technology to accomplish this?

If so, how do your “CCs” determine the position and momentum of the target? Are they susceptible to probability and its whims, or does the formula they create combine location and velocity calculations in a quantum disturbance/correlation matrix? I really cannot see how they would do it otherwise…

What is the loss rate in their calculations? Is their measure of decoherence to external forces near to absolute, or approaching it? Surely there must be a measure of mechanical interaction with the calculation’s manufacture of a non-environment, otherwise these ships would not be able to exhibit probabilistically additive behavior, and therefore appear at their destination irretrievably insane, or inside out.

I note that they are nano-built; I wonder to what level – as in their ability to generate non-physical spaces (which your description does suggest) - and just how far they can form the interaction of non-corporeal, fundamental mechanical obligations between generational variance fields arranged asymmetrically in the “quantum” sense?

Are their regenerative abilities capable of confining the motion of conduction within an artificial, quantum event band, and if so, do they constrict the wavefunction amplitude – possessing the target’s values – to two or more values of the target’s “observable” quantities?

I'm just wondering about that one lost ship... if Strangerthanfiction39 would care to tell more about it. I'm also wondering about what happens if someone on this planet does not accept it(he/she?) as a central consciousness or shepherd? What you describe appears to me to be representations of the soul. Is it known to those in the program there have been people in the past who have done similar 'projects' but without the AI/technology/computers (like those who explored their soul or existence without technology but symbols for instance). And lastly could you describe the highs and lows of the progress of the project according to your timeline per decade? Major breakthroughs for example.

One thing I dont understand is, that there seems to be a lot of information about Ancient ET's(even some old small aircraft made from gold thats from B.C.) and now you say there are non at all. Lot of different drawings that are also possibly from B.C. Hmmm, now I am a little confused. BUT, I have read somewhere about a guy, that was supposed to somehow help on a project for Area 51, and the aircraft was, biological. When he touched it, it changed colors or something, depending on his mood....

Getting even more confused now NICE

Sorry to burst this guys bubble...but as a long time gamer, this storyline is instantly recognizable to me: Deus Ex... the first Deus Ex, released in 2000 for PC ( and my favorite game of all time ), focused primarily on Nano-technology and an all-knowing super computer called Helios built under Area 51.
The Helios AI program basically controls and monitors all communication and data in the entire world, and uses devices called "Universal Constructors" to basically create anything using nano-tech.
The only source I can cite is en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by Stingray77

Originally posted by StrangerThanFiction39
... The reality was that Area51 was designated as the place to build the worlds first super computer, with the help of German scientists (WW2 ended just years prior to the Roswell incident). The goal was to create a massive underground complex that would almost solely be taken up by one computer. The utility of such a device would be limitless (the German scientists really were so far ahead of their time)...

So all that security & secrecy at Area 51 facility, to hide a prehistoric computer from WWII ?!
Ok, Thank you !

Correct me if I am wrong, but WWII ended in 1945 and Roswell Crash Incident was in 1947. Very much prehistoric.

Originally posted by Alora
Thank you for answering my questions.

If I may ask, how old are you?

I am in my 30's.

Originally posted by allprowolfy
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My opinion of yours is not that i find your facts to be null and void, but rather that most if any information that ever gets out to the mainstream people is usually only one percent of the actual information, and is exactly what TPTB want. You state that you were part of the game, but what exactly, as all governments are compartamentalized and you could only know what your specific job dictates, thus about-around one percent of the truth that was acknowledged with your job title?


I could be wrong if you put two rounds in your head in your bathtub, then jump out of your 3 story balcony window soon!

But again, that will not happen will it? Thanks for your information.

I am not sure I follow you as your English is not very good (not a jab at you just explaining, broken English is not a sign of poor intelligence), but I think you are saying you do not believe me, which is fine, as I am not here to be believed per se.