The Pirate Bay Goes Down Following Legal Pressure

Dont hate the player, hate the game!!!

While I have used sites like TPB in the past I tend to go with sites that are private. I usually use torrent leech or demonoid, you have to be registered in order to download. Demonoid has a ton of torrents and if you want the newest scene, that's what torrent leech is all about.

I thought people would try to avoid public trackers in here, that is generally where you will get the copyright infringements from. So I highly recommend private, to keep yourself private. They maybe hard to get into, but it's worth it, and the speed is incredible.

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reply to post by andy06shake

Like I said, it doesn't bother me one bit. It's illegal and I think it's immoral but it's not like committing rape or anything. However, I do fully support individuals and entities protecting their copyright because if I were in their position, I'd feel justified in doing the same and I would expect the law to be on my side. I don't agree with the absurd cases brought against illegal downloaders having to pay millions for downloading an album or whatever but they have do a right to take appropriate steps to block illegal content online. I think that people should be straight up and say the reason they do it is because they can't be bothered to pay rather than making excuses about overpaid actors/artists/anti-big business or whatever.

I "hate" to say it but piracy is a big part of what keeps innovation and the internet evolution going.

As for the moral part; it's not black and white. Is it moral when the bankers get bailed out, or the military industrial complex banks off the mass murder of foreign people? And yet there's no justice for those people, which in my mind are the real thieves.

Instead they call you immoral for downloading a COPY of a piece of art --- whether audible or visual --- that takes virtually nothing away from the massive pools of money already associated with its makers.

For example, I'm an artist; and it can take me upwards of 100 hours to finish a piece, which I then put up on the internet for free. People view/download the art and the Earth continues to spin. I can only hope to make [paper] off it eventually. Yet these fat cats in Hollywood, Wall St., and the corporate world make millions/billions of dollars, often off the exploitation of the US people, and then the morality police have the guts to tell digital pirates of any sort that they're the ones at fault.

I don't consider downloading information a remorseful act in this age. I do consider it immoral when poverty is allowed under the excuse that unfettered, government-propelled capitalism reigns the most viable.

Get a grip.

LOL, who used honeypots like TPB? Ooooh, "TPB"...LOL.

No, there are other ways. Ways that are far, far less traceable, even if they do take a little more work.

I download stuff because its free! Also because i can, i have no illusions, i know its theft, i know its against the law and i like that! If i could afford to shell out £40 for every new game, which i cant, i would still DL it for free! Does this make me a bad person, not in my opinion. Oh yeh IPTs it a great site if you can get an invite. John_bmth would you like an invite?

reply to post by Havick007



I Star and Flagged this thread just because Pirate Bay deserves the attention for its legal struggle.

Which artist or whatever person does eat, drink less or is not able to pay his/her rent because there is such a thing like The Pirate Bay?

I understand that bills need to be paid when a movie or a record has been made. But I am sure that all these bills are covered and profits are made by the people who pay money for the released product.

Why must some actor earn millions on a movie before the first film-shot? Same thing with some star-musicians they make millions. Is it about the un-known artist who can not make a living because of torrent-sites like TPB? Yeah....think about it...utter BS.

It is all about taking more money from the big guy.......and the little guy. Again it comes all down to f*ck!ng GREED...

There are a few mega-multi-muillionair-stars who want those few cents from the people who love their work (fans) because they feel they have the right. ...and there are many more millionair artist who think the same way.

These people consider it stealing money from them...legally they are probably right.

Don't you think such artists should be boycotted and make them feel how it is to really be considered un-talented.......and a greedy inconsiderate as54ole?

I say, Live and let live...The Pirate Bay and other such sites do excellent work and have become an important part of the internet.

Really,....if I had enough money I would support TPB with big money for their legal problems.

Whats immoral is selling an artist's work and then keeping 90%+ of the proceeds. Many artists these days don't care about "just" record sales as you have to take the media company's word for that anyway. Hollywood accounting is a term that entered dictionaries fairly recently (last few years) and its not for nothing. They are crooks and now they are bleating. My heart bleeds purple piss for Hollywood and its corporate moguls.

"My heart bleeds purple piss for Hollywood and its corporate moguls."

I like that mate, thats spot on, right on the nut!

reply to post by Raelsatu

These are superficial reasons. You're saying "bailouts are bad and piracy is less bad, therefore piracy is ok". Serial killing is bad, it doesn't make drink driving ok because it's less bad. You say "I'm an artist and I'm cool with it, therefore every artist should be cool with it". No, not really, it's not your judgement to make. If you're a storekeeper and you tolerate minor shoplifting, that doesn't give you the right to shoplift in other stores. See what I mean? Every argument can be turned around and exposed for what it is: pseudo-moralistic justifications. It is not anyone's call to decide whether or not someone's copyright is ok to infringe upon. You do not have the moral basis to make that decision for other people.

John_bmth, So you dont want the invite then? Killing n raping....is baaaaad!!! Thats a law and goverments do it to people and the planet every day of the week. Most laws are there to keep the sheeple down. Enlightened people tend to stick with "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law". If you know right from wrong this works!

Originally posted by andy06shake
So you dont want the invite then?

Artists get more money from me because of illegal file sharing. There are many bands I would have never discovered had it not been through file sharing. Had I not discovered them this way, I would have never bought concert tickets, or decided I thought they were worthy of buying their albums. Everything I download I would have never spent the money on to begin with. Most of it, if I couldn't obtain it this way, I would live with out it. However, once in a while I discover a new band this way that I really enjoy and even though I have downloaded their music, I buy it because I like their message or find their talent worthy of my money so I'll buy the CD to support them.

Maybe I should clarify a little here, I'm all for artists receiving the money from their labours, but signing to a record company often doesn't reach that goal. The bands I like I still buy their cd's (my 3 fave bands or more I have their entire catalog) but I try to either buy them directly from the artist themselves, live shows, etc or via digital downloads direct from their own sites. Going to a record/cd store gives 30-50% of the money to the record store, the same again to the record company and if they are a big artist like ...I dunno...Phil Collins or Elton John, they might get the last 20%, smaller artists will incur many BS costs though.

Motorhead, Ozric Tentacles, Eat Static and a few others... I have every CD available. I'd rather buy live/online than from a dumb corporate store though.

And yes, to remark on an earlier posters comment, illegal "file-sharers" buy more cd's than regular people. Much of the music I couldn't afford till I found cheaper, legal sources for it due to commercialism and greed. If I can buy it direct from the artist in cd quality wav/flac/mp3 files, then yes please!

I guess what it comes down to is people who can pay(or people who feel this compromises there moral high ground) should pay. Everone else = Torrents. Just bust a move!

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Smaller artists dont get anything from CD sales, nothing at all. In fact they can end up owing money from a CD.

I download everything and see as many concerts as I can to support the artists. That way the corporations (who rip off the artists, sue dead people and then their descendents) dont see a penny and the artists themselves get a big chunk of my money.

Its the perfect solution.

Piratebay was there for me for years. Now I use torrent sites out of the UK for RSS feeds, which piratebay never did that well anyway.

As far sa finding one off movies and shows, pirate bay rocked. For ongoing RSS downloads, they've always sucked.

Originally posted by john_bmth
reply to post by andy06shake

 

Like I said, it doesn't bother me one bit. It's illegal and I think it's immoral but it's not like committing rape or anything. However, I do fully support individuals and entities protecting their copyright because if I were in their position, I'd feel justified in doing the same and I would expect the law to be on my side. I don't agree with the absurd cases brought against illegal downloaders having to pay millions for downloading an album or whatever but they have do a right to take appropriate steps to block illegal content online. I think that people should be straight up and say the reason they do it is because they can't be bothered to pay rather than making excuses about overpaid actors/artists/anti-big business or whatever.

Actually, I pay for full cable including HBO and Super Channel, and still download the shows from RSS sites. I see this similar to VCR issues in the 80's, when the big movie houses tried to block the use of VCRs and lost because people were really only recording content they'd already paid for by having tv.

Pirate Bay is of course a lot more open for copyright breach, but the way I use my downloading, I see it as simply being able to keep shows I already paid to see for a longer term than I would if I just had them on my PVR.

I pay for my Broadband & Sky, thats all there getting from me im afraid.

reply to post by Havick007

Even though i think it being taken down is completely wrong i dont find it surprising at all.
This has happened several times in the past with TPB, but they always found a way to get it back up and running again.

Edit: looks like they are already up and running again anyways..