(BIG) Water Fluoridation Revolution! - (Hidden Camera report on Fluoride Treatment Facility)

reply to post by Lil Drummerboy


I agree ... and I also had the mercury removed from my teeth.

IMO, Dentists who use fluoride or mercury do not have their patients best interests at heart. Also, I read that Dentists who use these poisons tend to die young and that they have a high suicide rate, supposedly from the mercury toxins and fluoride.

I research everything and I do not take the word of a stranger who may, or may not, have my best interests at heart ... regardless of their education and title. IMO, many mainstream Dentists (and Doctors as well) put their bank account before their patients health and their safety.

Originally posted by Jana12
reply to post by Lil Drummerboy

 

I agree ... and I also had the mercury removed from my teeth.

IMO, Dentists who use fluoride or mercury do not have their patients best interests at heart. Also, I read that Dentists who use these poisons tend to die young and that they have a high suicide rate, supposedly from the mercury toxins and fluoride.

I research everything and I do not take the word of a stranger who may, or may not, have my best interests at heart ... regardless of their education and title. IMO, many mainstream Dentists (and Doctors as well) put their bank account before their patients health and their safety.

wholeheartedly agreed
I was always a label reader,. but as of the last few years since I realized what I have about the things
we are not being told, I trust no doctor or pharmacist for truthful information.
people need to research what they put into their bodies
People are being poisoned and they dont even know it
and when you try to tell them you get the deer in the head lights stare..

reply to post by Lil Drummerboy


I do agree about doing your own research, but in such a globalized world where everything is everywhere, it's hard to know everything about everything, even when we have the internet to even the playing field.

Believe me I completely understand, Google is one of the greatest tools I've ever used, but when the government lies to their people about something stupidly obvious, I think it creates a number of problems. The best example I can possibly think of is marijuana, because it's obvious its not bad, but the government is comparing it with coc aine ffs ! Facts are stronger then lies, even when the lies are meant to protect us. If the youth of today knew the truth about marijuana and that it can stunt your brain growth if your under 16, I highly doubt they would smoke it.... I wouldn't.. I even did my research before I started smoking and heard nothing about it.

The same can be said with the water but it's a lot less harder, maybe they should write it down so they don't forget. Fluorine isn't okay to drink.

They need to get their facts straight.

Then they need to let people know about the straight facts.

its a population control. keep the masses dumb so they turn to veggies or coach potato's watching tv. Keeps them nice and ducile so we can rob them there children and there childrens children blind. But have no fear in america this will never hit mainstream news. Next up 15 minutes of babble about insert actor.

What else started showing up on a large scale around the same time as fluoride? Aluminum. Well how do we get aluminum, is it mined in big chunks like other ores? No its in dirt as very small particles. The process is using highly toxic fluorine gas to extract aluminum out of the soil. The toxic by product of this process? Fluoride. In an experiment one micro-gram of fluoride (about the size or a grain of salt) was implanted on a bone. The results? Over time the fluoride pulled all of the calcium out of the bone to it, like a magnet. This created a hole structure in the bone, also known as Osteoporosis or thinning and brittle bones.

When the shift to aluminum was about to start, the concerns were what are we going to do with all of this toxic waste? The idea was, lets see if animals can process fluoride through their bodies with minimal side effects. When animal trials were complete it was time for human trials such as the ones in the 60's and 70's on school children.

They felt that instead of having another toxic waste dump sitting around to be protested, that they would turn us living beings into walking toxic waste processing plants. With the lie that it helped teeth. At the end of the study(actually a cover up for 3 mile island) there was no real benefit to fluoride other than humans make a pretty good walking waste disposal unit.

There are many reports of child death's in the dentist chair from these toxic fluoride treatments, and since the mass introduction of fluoride into city water supplies the cases of Osteoporosis has sky rocketed. So to combat that side effect they push calcium as much as fluoride. Any other side effects it's possible they keep to themselves.

Those concerned about fluoride in their pineal gland, should also be concerned that it is probably pretty well calcified and it may have been rendered utterly useless as result. Whether or not it can be de-calcified is unknown to me.

Would be nice to hear how everyone here has approached the issue with the water. What have you changed and how do you handle the situation. Or does everyone still mostly drink tap water because there are limited options?

reply to post by DonSergio


I wouldn't dare drink the tap water ... at least not where I live. I won't even use it just to brush my teeth or cook pasta or rice. Before I had the filter installed, once-per-week I'd buy 10 one-gallon jugs of distilled water for $10... not bottled tap-water with a fancy label ... distilled gallon jugs only. I used it for drinking and cooking and then I also had a $180 filter installed on the shower-head that lasted one-year before the filter needs replacing. So, I replace it every year. Now, I have a whole house filter.

There are excellent high-quality affordable water filters available, some may have to be replaced more often than others. It's best (and most effective) if the water filter is specifically custom-tailored (using different media) to your water supply.

The company I purchased water filters from custom-tailors the water filter for you if you give them your water supply company and your zip-code. Apparently, they have an extensive database of some sort that contains all of the detailed information regarding water supply systems, at least in the USA.

They enter your zip-code into their database/system and they can tell if your water is fluoridated or contains ammonia or whatever other crapola they put in the main water supply. FYI ... the owner/distributor of these water filters is a retired Chemist.

IMO ... and based on my research, if AWS, American Water Supply is the company you write the check to for your water bill, well, AWS is certainly not ranked one of the best.

So, for example, if one is located in Florida, the water bill will say 'FL American Water Supply' and in California it will say 'CA American Water Supply', and so on ...... AWS I think is probably one of the worst water supplies there is in the U.S. .... IMO... I think AWS is attempting to take over as many U.S. water supply systems as they possibly can and I have a strong suspicion that the Monsanto crime family has something to do with the by-products, fluoride and aluminum, that are in our (poisoned) food and water supply.

I'd say it took me about 5-hours (total time) spread out over one-week to research this on-line and then after a dozen or so google searches I also made a few calls to the different companies and I finally hit on a good company and product. This company is located in Arizona, but they ship almost anywhere within the U.S. I've been using them for several years now.

Fluoride is everywhere ... in the air, food, vitamins and water supply. So, I think if we don't ingest any additional fluoride by taking vitamins with fluoride or by drinking or showering with fluoridated water, these changes can make a huge difference.

Fluoride weakens the immune system (allowing cancer and other diseases to take over) and the skeletal system (causing stunted growth in children or osteoporosis in adults) and it can cause tooth/dental problems (especially mottling) when it's in excess. We don't need to take in anymore than we are already getting naturally. Excess causes very serious and totally irreversible problems for the young and old alike.

reply to post by TechUnique


Great post.

Too bad it's almost impossible to avoid.
If you look at the lists of food, it's in almost anything you buy at the store, farmers use it to water the crops so it's in the fruits/veg too. and the animals.

I drink my water from a local spring the whole family, even dog.
But we still wash, eat, etc ALL that flouride.


We can't avoid it.

Here is my independent research on the subject.

First, FL is poison...as we all agree. To what extent it is poisoning us is the question.

My interest is where FL causes diabetes. I have done my own study, not funded and not published, and not conclusive, but, a study nonetheless.

What originally gained my interest was when I found out that FL is used in the solution at the bottom of test tubes that are used when a Phlebotomist draws blood from you. The presence of FL slows the breakdown of sugar, or what is called glycolysis. This creates an environment that gives the lab an accurate reading of actual blood glucose levels in the bloodstream -- unaltered from the time it is drawn to the time it is tested. FL prohibits the breakdown of glucose, thereby giving the lab a closer to true reading by the time the vials are collected, transported, and tested.

A white paper on this study can be found HERE

So back to me. I live in a rural area which did not have treated water until 1994. I drank well water all of my life up until this point, then all of a sudden, without a pre-disposal to the disease, I was diagnosed a year later with type II Adult onset diabetes.

15 years later, and after researching the effects of FL on the human body, I decided that I would test the theory out myself -- that the drinking water I was now ingesting caused my diabetes.

I stopped drinking tap water completely -- no water, no ice cubes made from that water, nothing. I even so much as boiled my pasta using bottled water.

6 months of restricting my UNCHANGED diet to treated water, my blood glucose levels were now normal. I have been completely removed from all meds and insulin, and have a healthy A1C.

Coincidence?

Perhaps.

But a strong argument if you ask me that this stuff is poison!

Btw: I am a chemist and hold a Doctor of Pharmacy degree.

Interesting first hand account. Lets not forget that fluoride also targets your thyroid and pineal glands which I am sure reeks havok on your endocrine system.

reply to post by phantomjack


Thank you for your insightful post. I'd like to add my 2 cents and share the following in return.

As you know, Fluoride, as well pollutants, etc., all weaken the immune system, which allows cancer, diabetes and other diseases to take over. There are precautions and measures we can all take to ensure that we lessen, or significantly reduce the amount of Fluoride, pesticides, etc., that enter our systems.

Stress, lack of sleep, inadequate diet, chemicals and pollutants, including Fluoride, all weaken the immune system and once that occurs anything can happen. I believe in 'the parasite theory'. So, about ten years ago I cured my diabetes by killing the parasite (I think it's called the Liver Fluke or Pancreatic Fluke ... sorry, don't remember exactly) that I happen to believe causes diabetes .... and by eliminating toxins, including Fluoride (I don't shower in Fluoride polluted water and I've not had a drink of tap water in well over 20 years) this all boosted my immune system, while taking some herbal capsules for 30-days that killed this nasty parasite.

This major 'clean-up' effort took over 2 months. I also don't use skin/hair products that contain alcohol or additives or chemicals, as anything that touches our skin enters our bloodstream within 30-seconds and also weakens the immune system. The alcohol present in lotions/soaps/shampoo weaken the immune system. I also avoided ALL sugars, including ALL artificial sweeteners and ten years later the diabetes has never returned.

I agree ... I think you are right ... it isn't a coincidence. I think tap water causes disease. I think it's toxic.

My younger sister drank 8-glasses of water per day ... tap water! She refused to drink purified water (even after her Doctor warned her) and now she is gone. She died a horrid death from complications of diabetes and cancer.

Fluoride is everywhere, but with some effort we can reduce the amount that gets into our systems.

reply to post by Jana12


Wow..thanks for sharing!

Question: how did you go about diagnosing the Liver Fluke? Those little worms are just totally gross...almost as bad as thinking about maggots.

The next question is, how do you think you contracted the fluke? Were you an outdoors type in lakes and streams? or did you travel to foreign countries often?

Looks like this topic isnt going to fly, too bad. More people need to understand that we are being poisoned against our will.

Fluoride is good if used occasionally (like every 3 months!) for a tooth treatment in the form of a topical gel that the teeth soak in for about 15 minutes. The fluoride makes the tooth enamel more acid resistant than the original apatite enamel. When absorbed into other body tissues it kills anything it touches and causes cancer causing CaF2 crystals to embed in the gut liver, lungs and pancreas.

reply to post by JohnCreed777

Does anyone know a good way to remove the fluoride such as some kind of filter? thanks

*YES!*

(Second Line)

reply to post by phantomjack


Yes ... I've traveled overseas a few times and also to extremely remote areas of the world, including 3rd world countries. However, two different Doctors told me that they have diagnosed many patients with these Flukes and Parasites who have never even left the country. They said anyone can get them at any time. You can live a clean and healthy lifestyle and never travel overseas and still get them. It's possible to get them from lakes and streams. So, you don't need to leave the country to get them.

Most people assume they have a flu. Typically, the Flukes or Parasites will usually just pass through our system and we never even know we had them. But, if the immune system is weakened, such as from excess Fluoride, they can multiply and takeover, allowing a serious illness to set in ... such as diabetes, for one.

That's why I am agreeing that Fluoride, as well as pesticides and toxins, are so dangerous because they do weaken the immune system and allow the nasty 'buggers' to takeover.

I am surprised no one has posted this:





Awesome stuff.

Anyway - the whole Fluoride ordeal is pretty ridiculous. The amounts of fluoride added to water are, effectively, trace amounts. It hardly compares to:

www.sciencedaily.com...

Black tea, a Southern staple and the world's most consumed beverage, may contain higher concentrations of fluoride than previously thought, which could pose problems for the heaviest tea drinkers, Medical College of Georgia researchers say.

Most published reports show 1 to 5 milligrams of fluoride per liter of black tea, but a new study shows that number could be as high as 9 milligrams.

For the record - public drinking water is adjusted to 1 milligram per liter from its natural base level (as per the ADHA)

Whitford discovered that the fluoride concentration in black tea had long been underestimated when he began analyzing data from four patients with advanced skeletal fluorosis, a disease caused by excessive fluoride consumption and characterized by joint and bone pain and damage. While it is extremely rare in the United States, the common link between these four patients was their tea consumption -- each person drank 1 to 2 gallons of tea daily for the past 10 to 30 years.

I can empathize with that kind of tea consumption - though with as much sugar as I put in that stuff, I'm more likely to die of diabetic shock before I live to see 30 years (much less skeletal fluorosis).

The article continues to explain that the extra fluoride is missed in traditional quantification studies because of the amount of aluminum in tea (which is also linked to Alzheimer's... maybe we should just not eat/drink food - it seems to be hazardous to our health) - the aluminum binds to form aluminum-fluoride, which is not picked up by the traditional methods.

My point?

A lot of hooplah over a very minor issue.

reply to post by phantomjack
excellent study,.
I will pass that info to a co worker of mine.

reply to post by Aim64C
Just hoopla you say?
me disagrees greatly.
the point is, it is a chemical that is absolutely unnecessary for the body and has no need to be
ingested in any form. So why put it in the water in the first place.
It may not be the water that is doing the most damage in the first place. Most people dont even have
a clue it is bad for them. Yet they watch the ads on TV telling them that the fluoride is good for their
teeth and so they continue the usage based on an forced opinion. Some people think that just brushing
their teeth isnt enough and so they start to use the mouthwashes that tell you in the commercials how they
protect your teeth even further.. Bunk.. This is where the over fluoridation is at its worse..

The Base product of Prozac is Fluoxetine, a fluoride. It is a well known fact this chemical shuts down
the sex drive. A friend of mine was complaining to me Young girl friend of 22, whom should have
a strong sex drive for the age, just doesnt want sex much. So I suggested getting her on some
vitamins and eating healthier( foods that help womens drive) So I asked him how often she brushes
her teeth or uses mouthwash.. He asked why and laughed telling me she was obsessed with clean teeth.
She was brushing with a fluoridated toothpaste 4 times a day and using mouthwash twice in the evening.
I was amazed..I gave him the info to look up about the hazards of Fluoride use and told him to inform his
gfriend about the over usage.. At first she had difficulty accepting that fact but came around.. three
months later.. he tells me he is "Getting it" 4 times a week now.. Substantial improvement for him,, and her.
Coincidence? maybe for them But I can say it helped me think clearer giving up fluoride.. been a year now.

reply to post by Lil Drummerboy

the point is, it is a chemical that is absolutely unnecessary for the body and has no need to be
ingested in any form. So why put it in the water in the first place.

It is, in fact, utilized by the body. Fluoride bonds to calcium and promotes further bonding of minerals crucial to building the strength of that deposit. Hence its use in dentistry.

As to the: "it doesn't work" - clinical trials show that it does improve the strength of our enamel. Whether or not you can grasp how it works is irrelevant to the point that it does.

Is it necessary? I don't feel it is. That doesn't make it some kind of conspiracy. It's not necessary for the government to provide food stamps, and they do.

It may not be the water that is doing the most damage in the first place. Most people dont even have
a clue it is bad for them. Yet they watch the ads on TV telling them that the fluoride is good for their
teeth and so they continue the usage based on an forced opinion. Some people think that just brushing
their teeth isnt enough and so they start to use the mouthwashes that tell you in the commercials how they
protect your teeth even further.. Bunk.. This is where the over fluoridation is at its worse..

Quite frankly, you're incorrect, and your point is irrelevant. You don't ingest mouthwash, or toothpaste. That is where Fluoride is not your best friend, as it bonds to the calcium in your bones as well as your teeth - which can lead to skeletal Fluorosis - not good.

The Base product of Prozac is Fluoxetine, a fluoride. It is a well known fact this chemical shuts down
the sex drive.

This demonstrates an underlying lack of knowledge regarding chemistry. Sucralose is a sugar molecule with the three alcohol groups replaced by three chlorine atoms. This simple change makes it taste similar to sugar, without being utilized by the body.

A friend of mine was complaining to me Young girl friend of 22, whom should have
a strong sex drive for the age, just doesnt want sex much. So I suggested getting her on some
vitamins and eating healthier( foods that help womens drive) So I asked him how often she brushes
her teeth or uses mouthwash.. He asked why and laughed telling me she was obsessed with clean teeth.
She was brushing with a fluoridated toothpaste 4 times a day and using mouthwash twice in the evening.
I was amazed..I gave him the info to look up about the hazards of Fluoride use and told him to inform his
gfriend about the over usage.. At first she had difficulty accepting that fact but came around.. three
months later.. he tells me he is "Getting it" 4 times a week now.. Substantial improvement for him,, and her.
Coincidence? maybe for them But I can say it helped me think clearer giving up fluoride.. been a year now.

I've never been too impressed by testimonials, particularly involving friends of friends.

First off - diet and exercise changes are huge factors in sex drive. That, alone, is many people's problem.

Second - you're going to have to do better in terms of demonstrating a link between fluoride consumption and sex drive. Quite simply - I've seen the claim that it does, but not the research demonstrating it (while, at the same time, anti-fluoride advocates state that the fluoride added to water has never been tested for safety or efficacy... so I'm led to wonder where they got the idea they were stating facts...)

In either case - there's no cause for alarm over the issue. Fluoridated water and dental hygiene products have been around for a long time and a few generations. It is not some population-crippling conspiracy. At worst - it's a misguided attempt at good that does little to nothing.

Originally posted by Aim64C
reply to post by Lil Drummerboy

 

In either case - there's no cause for alarm over the issue. Fluoridated water and dental hygiene products have been around for a long time and a few generations.

And this makes it ok..
Yes I suppose all the (other) information that is against Fluoride is just bunk.
this must be why so many are fighting it in their water.
the ADA also stated that amalgam fillings are safe.. Just dont give them to babies or pregnant woman
the point there is the ADA lies through their teeth about what is healthy and what is not.
Something that is amazing to me,. is how an many a skulls have been found in history that were thousands of years old and many have a great set of teeth.. Hmm dont think they were drinking fluoride or using crest toothpaste.
also Sucralose? umm yes another chemical the body can do with out..and what does that have to do with prozac?
Do people drink Mouthwash,. not suppose to but who really rinses their mouth afterwards
and just a dime sized ingestion of toothpaste can make people sick,
it is an accumulation over time..