Massive Union just voted to join the Occupy Wall Street protests!

Yeah!!
Union people paid to protest.
What a great place America is.
And to think that all the other protestors are doing it out of the goodness of their heart.

Just wait till the banker that manages the Union's account gets wind of this.

Originally posted by Fitch303
Unions have destroyed just as much of our industrial base as wall street has.

Right by demanding fair wages and payment for overtime and giving you this thing called a "weekend". What a bunch of evil socialist pigs lookin out for poor working people.

You can't blame unions for something that corporations did. CORPORATIONS moved the jobs. Why would the unions work against their own policies and goals? Why would they destroy their very own dues paying membership and pretty much bankrupt themselves? Why would they want to REDUCE their power over corporations? Wait a minute, they didnt do any of these things. Corporations did by moving union jobs to countries that don't protect their workers.

You just can't take the effect and make it the cause.

When I would go to school every morning and stand up in class to recite the pledge of allegiance to my flag it was not to recite any allegiance to the elites who run our country. I was pledging allegiance to the flag of Jefferson, Franklin, and Washington, to the millions of men who laid down their lives in the Revolution, War of 1812, Civil War, WWI, WWII, and all the other wars to protect and preserve our Republic. That is what the flag means to me, which is what I pledged allegiance to. My blood, honor, and treasure are invested completely in this Republic, not the ones who have pillaged it.

Our best chances for changing anything in this country is to agree that there is only one thing we need to do; assert our God given rights guaranteed to us in the Constitution. We do not need to try and change that, we must change who governs us both in public and behind the curtain.

I fear many people at this Occupy Wall Street because they are not doing this to assert our Constitutional and God given rights, many are Communists, Socialists, and Radicals. What we need to do is all take up the battalion, all the proud Liberal, Moderate, and Conservative Americans who love this Republic and its Constitution, and march down to Wall Street and tell them that we won’t take it anymore. Do not leave the protests to the extremists on either the Right or Left, it needs to be Joe Public or else nothing will change.

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200,000 PEOPLE?! This is gonna be awesome to watch!

Originally posted by macman
Yeah!!
Union people paid to protest.
What a great place America is.
And to think that all the other protestors are doing it out of the goodness of their heart.

Just wait till the banker that manages the Union's account gets wind of this.

edit on 29-9-2011 by macman because: (no reason given)

If at the end of the day, we as citizens put things back the way they are supposed to be, then I do not see the need to fret about the method in which it is done. If we have to play "dirty pool" or use "underhanded tactics" then so be it. TPTB do the same thing to us every single day. There is nothing fair about any of this, we have to do what it takes, fair or not.

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I dont really understand how fighitng AGAINST banks is trying to destory America. Isnt it obvious that the banks are doing a REALLY REALLY good job of that already. They don't need help from communists and socialists. By the way, where have all the humanistic, caring capitalist policies gotten us? Oh wait, theres no such thing. Capitalism is anti human, anti labor, pro corporate, pro banking, pro globalist. Communist isnt a dirty word anymore. Since capitalists are doing a great job of destroying our once great country, people like you who cry "Communist!" actually need to prove why communism is harmful. Because the capitalist team is ruining the game and its no longer sustainable or socially stabilizing. Capitalism is destabilizing the country and the entire world. So, come up with new buzzwords to incite fear into ignorant right wing nut jobs. Heres a good one: terrorist. Try it. You dont need to have proof of anything to call someone a terrorist, just like the word communist used to be. I bet you're over 50 and havent changed your mind about anything in 25 years

Originally posted by Skewed

Originally posted by macman
Yeah!!
Union people paid to protest.
What a great place America is.
And to think that all the other protestors are doing it out of the goodness of their heart.

Just wait till the banker that manages the Union's account gets wind of this.

edit on 29-9-2011 by macman because: (no reason given)

If at the end of the day, we as citizens put things back the way they are supposed to be, then I do not see the need to fret about the method in which it is done. If we have to play "dirty pool" or use "underhanded tactics" then so be it. TPTB do the same thing to us every single day. There is nothing fair about any of this, we have to do what it takes, fair or not.

edit on 29-9-2011 by Skewed because: (no reason given)

Ok, so paying people to protest, is much akin to the mercenary on the battle field.
Only driving factor is money.

Ok, as long as a spade is called a spade.


And why is no one protesting the Govt.
After all, the banks and Govt go hand in hand.

Originally posted by Misoir
When I would go to school every morning and stand up in class to recite the pledge of allegiance to my flag it was not to recite any allegiance to the elites who run our country. I was pledging allegiance to the flag of Jefferson, Franklin, and Washington, to the millions of men who laid down their lives in the Revolution, War of 1812, Civil War, WWI, WWII, and all the other wars to protect and preserve our Republic. That is what the flag means to me, which is what I pledged allegiance to. My blood, honor, and treasure are invested completely in this Republic, not the ones who have pillaged it.

Our best chances for changing anything in this country is to agree that there is only one thing we need to do; assert our God given rights guaranteed to us in the Constitution. We do not need to try and change that, we must change who governs us both in public and behind the curtain.

I fear many people at this Occupy Wall Street because they are not doing this to assert our Constitutional and God given rights, many are Communists, Socialists, and Radicals. What we need to do is all take up the battalion, all the proud Liberal, Moderate, and Conservative Americans who love this Republic and its Constitution, and march down to Wall Street and tell them that we won’t take it anymore. Do not leave the protests to the extremists on either the Right or Left, it needs to be Joe Public or else nothing will change.

#OWS is a mix and mash of everyone, from all walks of life, and political areas. Some are democrat, repub, socialist. It does not matter anymore who is what. Many are not radicals, socialists or communists, do you have a source for this, or is it your own opinion?

liberal, conservative, moderate? it does not matter at all. It's a moot point. This is for anyone and everyone who sees what is going on, who has lost their home, who cannot pay their student loans, those students who cant get jobs, the rest of the populace that cannot get jobs.

All the people at OWS are there for one thing, America. Because america has been driven into the ground because of the corporatocracy.

Also, Government and corporate lobbying do go hand in hand. The corps control the government. And therefor, going after the top is the best course of action.

Do they look like communists?

If a 9-year old can see the problem, im sure a lot of other people can.

Originally posted by macman


Ok, so paying people to protest, is much akin to the mercenary on the battle field.
Only driving factor is money.

Ok, as long as a spade is called a spade.


And why is no one protesting the Govt.
After all, the banks and Govt go hand in hand.

edit on 29-9-2011 by macman because: (no reason given)

First things first. If you find yourself ass deep in alligators, the first thing to do is to drain the swamp.

If we can get the banks straightened out, then the government will be easier to fix. It is the banking policies themselves that are creating the problems, the government is only providing the medium to do their bidding. Once the banks are taken care of, the incentive of the politicians will be reduced as the money trading hands between the banks and government politicians will decrease as we move forward.

This is not exactly a battle between the citizens and the government, it is a battle between the citizens and banks. We are going right to the source as we should be.

Originally posted by Fitch303
Unions have destroyed just as much of our industrial base as wall street has.

You like not having to work 61-hour workweeks as an average? You like weekends? You like that children aren't allowed to be exploited for slave labor? You like not being fired if you are out because of an injury or sickness? You like equal opportunities in the workplace?

You can thank unions for all of those. If it weren't for unions, we would still be living like we were in the industrial revolution. We owe them.

Originally posted by Fitch303
Unions have destroyed just as much of our industrial base as wall street has.

Yeah and just because you say it, makes it true.

I am curious to see how this unfolds. How is the GOP/Tea Party going to demand accountability on Wall St. at the same time unions are doing it? I mean their hatred for unions couldn't possibly allow them to be on the same side of an issue as unions, could it? God forbid that muslims might come out in favor of this protest too! What to do, what to do? Looks like their only choice may be to stand against the unions and do everything in their power to protect Wall St. and the wealthy elite. Wait a minute, that's what they're already advocating. What was I thinking?

FYI, Unions didn't destroy our industrial base, uncontrolled greed did!

F&S to the OP, I agree, let the spring begin.

Originally posted by AzureSky

Do they look like communists?

If a 9-year old can see the problem, im sure a lot of other people can.

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Wow, kids at a protest.
So, when will the parents be called irresponsible, much like the Tea Party parents were?
Or, is this different?


Just wondering.

Originally posted by Skewed

Originally posted by macman


Ok, so paying people to protest, is much akin to the mercenary on the battle field.
Only driving factor is money.

Ok, as long as a spade is called a spade.


And why is no one protesting the Govt.
After all, the banks and Govt go hand in hand.

edit on 29-9-2011 by macman because: (no reason given)

First things first. If you find yourself ass deep in alligators, the first thing to do is to drain the swamp.

If we can get the banks straightened out, then the government will be easier to fix. It is the banking policies themselves that are creating the problems, the government is only providing the medium to do their bidding. Once the banks are taken care of, the incentive of the politicians will be reduced as the money trading hands between the banks and government politicians will decrease as we move forward.

This is not exactly a battle between the citizens and the government, it is a battle between the citizens and banks. We are going right to the source as we should be.

edit on 29-9-2011 by Skewed because: (no reason given)

So you solely blame the banks?

Ok... I guess.

Originally posted by Flatfish

Originally posted by Fitch303
Unions have destroyed just as much of our industrial base as wall street has.

FYI, Unions didn't destroy our industrial base, uncontrolled greed did!

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So there is no greed within the Unions?

Originally posted by AzureSky

#OWS is a mix and mash of everyone, from all walks of life, and political areas. Some are democrat, repub, socialist. It does not matter anymore who is what. Many are not radicals, socialists or communists, do you have a source for this, or is it your own opinion?

liberal, conservative, moderate? it does not matter at all. It's a moot point. This is for anyone and everyone who sees what is going on, who has lost their home, who cannot pay their student loans, those students who cant get jobs, the rest of the populace that cannot get jobs.

Exactly. Let's just call it what it is: an elite oligarchy. I'll proudly stand by radical capitalists just as I'll stand by fellow socialists. This is an alliance and it needs to remain one. Somebody used an analogy of draining the swamp to see the alligators. Brilliant. That's what these guys are trying to do and I think it might work. If you got beef amongst on another afterwards, deal with it then.

Do you think people who are fighting a foreign occupier care if they are sharing their trench with somebody who has different ideologies? We are occupied by a foreign element. The top 1% is about as alien to American values as any foreign occupier could possibly be.

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No, I am not saying I solely blame the banks.
I am saying first things first.

Look at it this way, if we protest the banks and once the pressure upon them sets in and they realize the people are not going to go away.....

The government, hopefully will be able to recognize that they are next if they do not want to be on the chopping block also. I see it as giving the government one last opportunity to straighten themselves up on their own, otherwise they too will suffer the wrath of the citizens, after the banks.

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Irrelevant.
They're not marching right there, they're at the park which is still public space. People bring their families down there, and have been for the last couple weeks too.

This is for everyone. Does not matter about what union your in, or what party you voted for, or what color your skin is. It is a global movement that is spreading.

The protests starting in europe are in solidarity with #occupywallstreet, vice versa, and whatever.

Global change. For a global problem

Originally posted by Skewed
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Now, we just need to find that modern day Boston Tea Party.

I seriously doubt that these union people need to find a Tea Party of any kind. I think that your present day Tea Party has pretty much ruined any hope of attracting reasonable people to any movement affiliated with that name. Unions are kings when it comes to organizing people behind a common goal anyway. In reality, it's the Tea Party that could learn a few things from unions but their hatred for them won't allow it.

I think Jon Stewart put it best when he said that trying to get the GOP/Tea Party to accept facts is harder than trying to get your dog to swallow a big pill. First, you have to wrap it in bologna, then you have to hold their nose while you shove it in their mouth, then you have to massage their throat until they swallow it completely. Even after all that, more than likely they will throw it up on the floor. Pretty good description if you ask me.

Originally posted by AzureSky
reply to post by macman

 

Irrelevant.
They're not marching right there, they're at the park which is still public space. People bring their families down there, and have been for the last couple weeks too.

This is for everyone. Does not matter about what union your in, or what party you voted for, or what color your skin is. It is a global movement that is spreading.

The protests starting in europe are in solidarity with #occupywallstreet, vice versa, and whatever.

Global change. For a global problem

Um no, it is very relevant.
It shows the great hypocrisy.
It is ok to bring kids to a Protest, so long as it is against the Banks.
It is not ok when it is to protest the Govt if the "Tea Party" is used anywhere.

In the words of the great Neo96 "Meh!! "