What made you first suspect that the 9/11 official story was false.

When a news reporter said america had no idea this was going to happen then in the same sentence said the government were sure obl was responsible.

Then when the first tower pulverised i knew right then it wasnt caused by a plane then when wtc7 was reported collapsed 20 mins prior to it collapsing an when it did fall i thought every sky scrapper in man hatton was gunna collapse. I didnt immeadiatly think inside job i just knew sumthin else had happened that the government hadnt told us

After looking at other peoples reseach theres no way the os fairy tale is true. No one has explained the explosions in the pre basement levels prior to the plane strike

Experts coming forward and saying something is off.

When I heard that 19 Arabs had the power to silence NORAD, FAA and 16 Federal security Defense agencies, while flying four alleged hijacked commercial airplanes over highly secured airspace and ignored Tower Controls request for an hour. Now that is un-flipping believable

When the government said three WTC fell down due to jet fuel and office fires.

When I found out seven hijackers out of the 19 are still alive and have filed suits against our government to clear their names.

When the FBI said they found the DNA of all the hijackers, especially since no one could prove who they really were because it was already proven they were using stolen identities. So who were the FBI comparing the DNA to?

When the Pentagon showed the five frames video of the plane crashing into the Pentagon.

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When I heard that 19 Arabs

Arabs are somehow not capable?

had the power to silence NORAD, FAA and 16 Federal security Defense agencies,

Uh, silence? I am not aware that anyone was silenced

while flying four alleged hijacked commercial airplanes over highly secured airspace

Where's this, Fortress New Jersey or Fortress Pennsylvania?

and ignored Tower Controls request for an hour.

Yes, how dare someone who is hijacking a plane ignore "Tower Controls"

Now that is un-flipping believable

Yep, your rhetoric sure is.

When the government said three WTC fell down due to jet fuel and office fires.

Really? I never heard the government use the term "office fires".

When I found out seven hijackers out of the 19 are still alive and have filed suits against our government to clear their names.

No, they're not.

When the FBI said they found the DNA of all the hijackers, especially since no one could prove who they really were because it was already proven they were using stolen identities. So who were the FBI comparing the DNA to?

Its called the process of elimination.

When the Pentagon showed the five frames video of the plane crashing into the Pentagon.

Its a conspiracy when they don't have video and its a conspiracy when they do. See a pattern here?

Originally posted by hooper
Its a conspiracy when they don't have video and its a conspiracy when they do. See a pattern here?

yeah. you don't question the fact that there is no clear video of a boeing hitting the pentagon.
nice pattern.

Originally posted by psyop911

Originally posted by hooper
Its a conspiracy when they don't have video and its a conspiracy when they do. See a pattern here?

yeah. you don't question the fact that there is no clear video of a boeing hitting the pentagon.
nice pattern.

Yet, you question every single eyewitness, even the ones who describe the plane in full detail as it headed it. Ones that describe the debris flying around as the plane hit things on its way to the pentagon. Ones that describe every moment of the event, and you discount them because there wasn't a video camera recording that side of the pentagon. Maybe you forgot, but people were pretty focused on New York, and DC being hit wasn't exactly expected, so video cameras weren't out and ready for the attack. Most video cameras wouldn't even be pointed in that direction. They would be pointed at the parking lots and roads.

So why, if you would explain to me, are all the witnesses wrong?

reply to post by Varemia
Do you really think anyone is buying your BS? Do you think everyone else that's posted on this thread is wrong, and you and Ed are right? Keep playing your childish game, you accomplish nothing and appear foolish.

Originally posted by impressme
When I heard that 19 Arabs had the power to silence NORAD, FAA and 16 Federal security Defense agencies, while flying four alleged hijacked commercial airplanes over highly secured airspace and ignored Tower Controls request for an hour. Now that is un-flipping believable

NORAD and the FAA were screaming their heads off that planes were being hijacked. The problem was that they were crapping out in their responsibilities while they were doing it. The FAA took too long to notify NORAD, NORAD was sending interceptors out to fly in circles and chase after imaginary targets, and orders weren't being handed down properly. All this has been documented years ago, but it's just that you're getting all your information from those damned fool conspiracy web sites so you don't want to believe it.

When the government said three WTC fell down due to jet fuel and office fires.

The myriad agencies investigating the collapse sequences said up front their reports were estimated guesses, which is why the FEMA report conflicts with the NIST report which in turn conflict with the Purdue report. All this has been documented years ago, but it's just that you're getting all your information from those damned fool conspiracy web sites so you don't want to believe it.

When I found out seven hijackers out of the 19 are still alive and have filed suits against our government to clear their names.

They have all been shown to have been mistaken identities during the early days of the investigation due to these people having the same name as the hijackers. All the actual Saudi hijackers have been declared deceased by the Saudi gov't. All this has been documented years ago, but it's just that you're getting all your information from those damned fool conspiracy web sites so you don't want to believe it.

When the FBI said they found the DNA of all the hijackers, especially since no one could prove who they really were because it was already proven they were using stolen identities. So who were the FBI comparing the DNA to?

The FBI openly stated they've deduced the remains of the hijackers out of a process of elimination because they were able to identify the identities of all the *other* human remains they recovered via DNA analysis. All this has been documented years ago, but it's just that you're getting all your information from those damned fool conspiracy web sites so you don't want to believe it.

When the Pentagon showed the five frames video of the plane crashing into the Pentagon.

You have irrefutably shown you would refuse to accept any Pentagon footage even if any usable footage did exist for the simple fact that all this has been documented years ago, but it's just that you're getting all your information from those damned fool conspiracy web sites so you don't want to believe it.

Originally posted by Cassius666
Experts coming forward and saying something is off.

You mean like physicist and materials engineer Dr. Judy Wood coming forward and saying the towers were destroyed by lasers from outer space?

Originally posted by dillweed
reply to post by Varemia

 

Do you really think anyone is buying your BS? Do you think everyone else that's posted on this thread is wrong, and you and Ed are right? Keep playing your childish game, you accomplish nothing and appear foolish.

This tirade is about as faxt filled as any truther's attempt at providing facts and evidence.

Congratulations.

You are right smack in the middle of the truther bell curve.......

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IF 'all this has been documented years ago', why has there been 7 pages of people asking questions that they feel have not been answered? Could it be that they aren't satisfied with the answers given by the government? Well, that's what I believe, and because of that I resent your mindless repetition of useless information. You have become a parody of the OS, and I look forward to the day when we are able to not only make you eat crow, but actually stuff it down your throat.

Originally posted by zerimar65

First of all, you don't know how Skorpion came to his conclusion or what he was wallowing in. Your conspiracy sounds far fetched and you totally add stuff to make up your conspiracy. Skorpion's conclusion was based on what was being reported and unlikely reality of it. How could a passport that was on a plane survive a crash and explosion and then miraculously be found on the street? Isn't that enough. Why would he have to involve the FBI, illegal raids and J. Edgar Hoover?

A) No, actually, I do know how Skorpion came to his conclusion. He didn't come to any conclusion. His conclusion was given to him by one or another of those damned fool conspiracy web sites. I know this is the case because every third person here is posting they became truthers after seeing the video of the collapse of building 7 that some con artist deliberately altered to make it specifically look like a controlled demolition.

B) It's ironic that you're taking me to task for "adding stuff to make up my conspiracy" since this is exactly what you truthers have been doing all along. How many people from NYC firefighters to Pentagon eyewitnesses to even the Red Cross have you conspiracy people accused of being "secret government disinfortmation agents" because it's the only way that makes your conspiracy stories work?

My conspiracy theory is based entirely upon speculation exactly as yours is. If you require no tangible evidence to back up your conspiracy claims then neither do I

Originally posted by dillweed
reply to post by Varemia

 

Do you really think anyone is buying your BS? Do you think everyone else that's posted on this thread is wrong, and you and Ed are right? Keep playing your childish game, you accomplish nothing and appear foolish.

Fine. Then read the witness testimonies to your heart's content:

911research.wtc7.net...

These are not my words. These are people who were there. Stop with your BS and own up to the facts.

I don't think the official story is false. Just incomplete.

Those jets should have been shot down, or at least engaged, LONG before they reached their targets.

For such a great military power as the US that's such an abysmal performance, it's suspect.

Originally posted by FOXMULDER147
I don't think the official story is false. Just incomplete.

Those jets should have been shot down, or at least engaged, LONG before they reached their targets.

For such a great military power as the US that's such an abysmal performance, it's suspect.

Well, you have to remember that our military was not ready at a moment's notice on/before 9/11, and generally terrorists use the planes to take hostages and bargain for funds or released prisoners. 9/11 was the first time an airliner was used as a weapon multiple times in a coordinated attack.

Nowadays, there's no doubt that at the moment a plane shows signs of being hijacked, it will be escorted by fighter jets and shot down if there isn't compliance.

Originally posted by Varemia
Well, you have to remember that our military was not ready at a moment's notice on/before 9/11

Sorry, I don't believe this at all.

Some people seem to think national security/defense was invented on 09 11 2001...

How hijacked jets got within 20 miles of the Pentagon (particularly) and Manhattan astounds me.

Originally posted by FOXMULDER147

Originally posted by Varemia
Well, you have to remember that our military was not ready at a moment's notice on/before 9/11

Sorry, I don't believe this at all.

Some people seem to think national security/defense was invented on 09 11 2001...

How hijacked jets got within 20 miles of the Pentagon (particularly) and Manhattan astounds me.

Our defense was not invented, it was simply not active on 9/11. I may have only been 9, but my brain was functioning, and my parents liked to talk about these kinds of things. I know for a fact that our military (air-force specifically) was not on stand-by mode all the time. After 9/11, we could shoot a bloody fly out of the sky if we wanted to, but before-hand, it was a period of relief, and it worked against us.

Or are you trying to say that we had an array of completely prepped fighter jets armed to take down planes flying over the midwest/east-coast? That makes no sense. Any arms we had active were protecting us from foreign threats, not native threats.

What made you first suspect that the 9/11 official story was false. ,

When it was proven the government and Pentagon lied to the American people.

When the Bush administration blocked ALL inquiries into 911.

When stumbling, bumbling, George Bush said he saw the first plane hit the WTC on 911 and no video was release until the follow day.

The Bush administration couldn’t keep their myths straight.

Fact is 911 was never investigated. The American people have demanded an investigation since 911 and never have gotten one yet.

For me... The MAIN one is "Hijack a Plane with Boxcutters"...Paaaaalllease

...and the "FreeFall" of the towers coming down more 'Smoothly' then Dominos...

Originally posted by Varemia

Originally posted by FOXMULDER147

Originally posted by Varemia
Well, you have to remember that our military was not ready at a moment's notice on/before 9/11

Sorry, I don't believe this at all.

Some people seem to think national security/defense was invented on 09 11 2001...

How hijacked jets got within 20 miles of the Pentagon (particularly) and Manhattan astounds me.

Our defense was not invented, it was simply not active on 9/11. I may have only been 9, but my brain was functioning, and my parents liked to talk about these kinds of things. I know for a fact that our military (air-force specifically) was not on stand-by mode all the time. After 9/11, we could shoot a bloody fly out of the sky if we wanted to, but before-hand, it was a period of relief, and it worked against us.

Or are you trying to say that we had an array of completely prepped fighter jets armed to take down planes flying over the midwest/east-coast? That makes no sense. Any arms we had active were protecting us from foreign threats, not native threats.

You know for a fact? Oh really? Who the hell do you think you are? Wow hahaja