Veterans attempt citizens arrest of Rumsfeld in Boston

Several members of the group Veterans for Peace were escorted out of the Old South Meeting House in Boston Monday night after they attempted a citizen’s arrest of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

“I went down in front and looked Donald Rumsfeld in the eye and said, ‘I’m making a citizen’s arrest,’” protester Nate Goldschlag told WCVB-TV.

It appears some have decided to take the article mentioned in this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

LITERALLY.





Meanwhile, outside....






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You have to wonder how he has the audacity. Perhaps he just doesn't care because he doesn't have the capacity to care--maybe he really is a sociopath. No worries, the man wants to make some money on his book!



EDIT: Check the second video at around 3:50. You see the cops recording the protestors with what appears to be a droid smartphone. Are they planning to blacklist these people once they're identified?

reply to post by v1rtu0s0


Were they arrested? Everyone who stopped them or tried to stop them should be hung for treason.

Your Second link seems dead.
I'll give it a go for you. :0)

I hope he is confronted like this wherever he goes the rest of his life. I would prefer that he were arrested, tried and convicted for crimes against humanity, but I highly doubt he will be.

Originally posted by aching_knuckles
reply to post by v1rtu0s0

 

Were they arrested? Everyone who stopped them or tried to stop them should be hung for treason.

The police drug them out, while Rumsfeld had a big grin on his face.


Perhaps it will make the others wonder what those people will thinking?

Originally posted by aching_knuckles
reply to post by v1rtu0s0

 

Were they arrested? Everyone who stopped them or tried to stop them should be hung for treason.

No, Rumsfeld wasn't arrested. But you are correct: he should be hung for treason.

/TOA

reply to post by The Old American


...ahhh...no...

When he comes to Florida, I am going to make an attempt at the same thing.

We need to organize people at locations on his inane book tour, to do this everytime he makes a public appearance.

No joke.

Read this quote, from one of our political leaders;

Mr. Rumsfeld’s book title, “Known and Unknown,” is drawn from a notorious response he gave in one of his Pentagon press briefings as secretary of defense. On Feb. 12, 2002, attempting to explain the lack of evidence linking Iraq to weapons of mass destruction, Rumsfeld said: “[T]here are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”

From the comments:

"When the torture allegations first came out - Rumsfeld went on TV and said I take full responsibility. Well that means he is as responsible (if not more) as the people who were arrested and locked up. By his own admittance, HE IS RESPONSIBLE for what has been determined to be criminal activity (others were arrested for it)."

How is it that someone admits to a crime, is within the statute of limitations, and the police protect him from being arrested? Our country is a freaking disgrace.

Originally posted by aching_knuckles
From the comments:

"When the torture allegations first came out - Rumsfeld went on TV and said I take full responsibility. Well that means he is as responsible (if not more) as the people who were arrested and locked up. By his own admittance, HE IS RESPONSIBLE for what has been determined to be criminal activity (others were arrested for it)."

How is it that someone admits to a crime, is within the statute of limitations, and the police protect him from being arrested? Our country is a freaking disgrace.

Rumsfeld has friends in high places and they tell the police what to do. If the police do not follow orders then they are fired (or worse).

if he comes here to canada and close to me ill snag that dirty sob....ill bring a huge mob with so they cant stop us all!

Originally posted by EvanJP
When he comes to Florida, I am going to make an attempt at the same thing.

We need to organize people at locations on his inane book tour, to do this everytime he makes a public appearance.

No joke.

Read this quote, from one of our political leaders;

Mr. Rumsfeld’s book title, “Known and Unknown,” is drawn from a notorious response he gave in one of his Pentagon press briefings as secretary of defense. On Feb. 12, 2002, attempting to explain the lack of evidence linking Iraq to weapons of mass destruction, Rumsfeld said: “[T]here are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”

edit on 28-9-2011 by EvanJP because: (no reason given)

He's also in to rapping:


At 1:20 he talks about "Known knowns."

So if we can't citizen arrest self-confessed war criminals, what happens to the world next? Someone better sort this shiz out pronto... the cabal and their associates need to be locked up in Guantanamo Bay detention camp, forever.

Haha!

"I would not say that the future is necessarily less predictable than the past. I think the past was not predictable when it started."

"Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war."

They get even better..

politicalhumor.about.com...

Originally posted by kyred
reply to post by The Old American

 

...quoted reply removed...

That's... pretty specific. Seems you've been thinking about this for a while.

I would go with an old-fashioned tarring and feathering. Not enough of that going on these days, seemed like a pretty effective deterrent to abhorrent behavior.

Originally posted by EvanJP
When he comes to Florida, I am going to make an attempt at the same thing.

We need to organize people at locations on his inane book tour, to do this everytime he makes a public appearance.

No joke.

Read this quote, from one of our political leaders;

Mr. Rumsfeld’s book title, “Known and Unknown,” is drawn from a notorious response he gave in one of his Pentagon press briefings as secretary of defense. On Feb. 12, 2002, attempting to explain the lack of evidence linking Iraq to weapons of mass destruction, Rumsfeld said: “[T]here are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”

edit on 28-9-2011 by EvanJP because: (no reason given)

Haha! Hope he got a ghost writer to write his book. Who would want to read a book filled with "uknowns" like that? His eloquence is as bad as his sense of compassion for others.

I just pretend they don't exist. They are just monsters in dark corners. They are the most hated men on the planet for their crimes against humanity. Karma is arriving late for this man, but karma is always served!

This is part of that karma that these brave and just men had a go at serving some justice to him. They got away with it only because they are war veterans and elderly. If a younger crowd had done the same thing there would have been a much heavier police response.

Originally posted by Shar_Chi
So if we can't citizen arrest self-confessed war criminals, what happens to the world next? Someone better sort this shiz out pronto... the cabal and their associates need to be locked up in Guantanamo Bay detention camp, forever.

Why do you think you can successfully "citizen arrest" anyone? Citizens have no power anymore except the small amount of power granted by our near-totalitarian state. Maybe you could get away with arresting some lowlife (unless he has much better lawyers than you) but citizen's arrest of one of the elite? You have to be out of your mind.

I do applaud the effort of anyone willing to risk their freedom over this (or I should say, risk their life outside of jail, since we have almost no actual FREEDOM left other than not being physically imprisoned) but don't expect it to succeed. We are the serfs, they are the nobles. We don't matter one bit. We are just another resource to be exploited and abused by the criminal corporate/government oligarchy. Citizens with conscience constantly led away by police demonstrates that very effectively (to anyone watching, which is to say, not many.)

This is really only another form of protest. And as with other protests, no one in power will care or listen, the media will not cover you, and it will only accomplish anything if it is kept up day after day until the media can no longer get away with ignoring it.

Originally posted by aching_knuckles
How is it that someone admits to a crime, is within the statute of limitations, and the police protect him from being arrested?

Answer: They are a rich politician.

Whether or not Mr. Rumsfeld is guilty of treason or crimes against humanity, no citizen can arrest him. Citizen's arrest requires you to be witness to his crime, as it's committed. You can't say "I heard he committed it, so I'm going to arrest him."

IF there is a legitimate indictment against him, from a court of competent jurisdiction, you might be able to get away with it. Otherwise, you'll be lucky to escape by being removed or with a charge of disorderly conduct. In the worse case, you'll be charged with kidnapping and false imprisonment.

The bottom line is, there is NOTHING any of us can do within the confines of the law (aside from urge those in power) to do anything about the perpetrators of any perceived crimes we did not witness.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

I think I need to re-review how to post links or articles, and quote parts of the article. Sorry guys, I am on my iPad. The link, if memory serves is from 2009, where Gibbs was stating Obama still had no interest in opening investigating possible crimes committed by the Bush Administration.
If the President won't ask the DOJ to investigate, I highly doubt that a citizen would be able to use a citizens arrest. Even if one would successfully use the citizens arrest, the DOJ would set him free IMO.