Public School Anti-Halloween (Sudbury Massachusetts)

So this is what it has come to...
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"Halloween is still more than a month away, but already the terror is beginning. It’s the government-run school system’s bone-shaking fear of...fun.

This morning I received this email from a listener out in Sudbury, MA:


We were just informed by my son's second grade teacher that our children will not be permitted to acknowledge the existence of Halloween. Basically "We cannot have Halloween themed crafts/snacks because not all families in the class celebrate Halloween.” The activities need to be Autumn/Fall Harvest themed (last year kids made little scarecrows)." First of all...what American kid doesn't like Halloween? What? Should all the kids not be allowed to celebrate Halloween because one kid in the class will be forever traumatized by seeing them all in costumes eating jelly apples? C'mon! Am I missing something here?

If by chance you go to the schools website I think the radio person is refering to the calendar that noted Halloween on there..it is apparently no longer on there since this became public today..

Way to go all you politically correct loonies.....can't get excited about Santa, the Easter Bunny and now Halloween...yeah I can see why we need to remove those days...I hate seeing little kids get excited and anxious.
Wait a minute now I know why some people are offended by this perhaps satanic or religious holiday that perhaps instills negative morals in our children...I can see why it's offensive to some parents..


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Personally, (this may go against most here)...I have never lied to my kids about the east bunny, santa, the tooth fairy etc... I want my kids to trust me, I should not lie to them (even in the form of fairy tail)...sorry.

I do not participate in any holiday...its all commercialism...money making bull #!

Halloween....in my opinion, big deal...who cares...its a another senseless holiday to make people spend money.

reply to post by chrismarco


Sorry, bah-Halloween me, but I agree with more schools' being anti-Halloween.

Not for religious purposes though.

Just another distraction for students and hassle for parents from *real learning*. Don't we have enough evidence already as to US public schools lagging?!

Just another occasion to commercialize and sugar up the young ones.

If you want to celebrate, do it outside of the classrooms....

Originally posted by BurningSpearess
reply to post by chrismarco

 

Sorry, bah-Halloween me, but I agree with more schools' being anti-Halloween.

Not for religious purposes though.

Just another distraction for students and hassle for parents from real learning.

Just another occasion to commercialize and sugar up the young ones.

If you want to celebrate, do it outside of the classrooms....

I am with you!!

reply to post by summer5


Seriously...you believe your kids won't trust you because you told them there is a Santa??? Are you kidding me? So if you kid pretends he is Spiderman or Superman are you going to remind him immediately that he's not...

Nothing new guys. This is from 2004, in the city I live in; Puyallup, Washington.

Except, its due to wiccans. Yep. You heard me right. 7 years ago Halloween celebrations were banned here.
Read about it HERE in the Seattle Times

Thank god I live in Ohio. We love Halloween. Tell the anti-Halloween crowd to pull the stick out of their butt.

reply to post by chrismarco


SERIOUSLY! My kids are pretty much grown, mostly teens now. I never told them there was a santa...eater bunny, tooth fairy, etc...NOPE!

My parents told me there was a god I could not see...my parents told me there was a santa - I could not see...tooth fairy, I could not see...I was punished when I lied about something. When I found out they lied to me, I questioned everything they told me. I was always called an "old soul"...maybe there was a reason for that, maybe not.

I felt like I could not believe the things my parents told me. Why would they tell me not to lie, yet lie to me about so many things? And when I lied about something, I was punished, got in trouble...double standard? I think so!

I decided I would never lie to my children about such things...they are fairy tails...not true...if I want my children to always be honest, and teach them from example, why would I lie to them? I chose not to...

You want to lie to your children,,,and teach them not to lie...what a contradiction! Go right ahead...good luck.

I just asked my 3 teen age girls if they felt "ripped off because they were told the truth about santa, easter bunny, tooth fairy, from the start, they looked at me, shook their heads, and said no...my oldest daughter, 17 said to me, I am glad you never fed us those lies...what is the point?

reply to post by amongus


That's priceless...witch link

reply to post by summer5


Get off your high horse lady and let the kids have some fun...

reply to post by zerotime


I live in ohio and I don't participate in halloween,easter and christmas.
All of these are pagan in their origins.

[iTo all you anti well every thing fun post . How many of you loved these days as kids?
To the rest well if your parents forced you to watch walls tahts NOT OUR KIDS FAULT.
Grow up get over it you had bad parents taht should make you want to be better.
OO i never lied to my kids about Santa OMG poor scared kid when he realizes that you buy the stuff.
Wich happens at 2 with my 6 lol NOT dumb my kids .
Every one should have dreams we louse them fast enough without going through the trouble of destroying them .
Santa omg image a world with a fat jolly guy giving out gifts wow wouldnt nwant my kid to ever think someone could be kind show them the cold crule world buy 6 months old right???
No birthdays no Christmas no Easter no nothing WHY you must be jahova witness .
yea its a cold curl world and if they don't know it shove it down there throats great parenting

Originally posted by summer5
reply to post by chrismarco

 

SERIOUSLY! My kids are pretty much grown, mostly teens now. I never told them there was a santa...eater bunny, tooth fairy, etc...NOPE!

My parents told me there was a god I could not see...my parents told me there was a santa - I could not see...tooth fairy, I could not see...I was punished when I lied about something. When I found out they lied to me, I questioned everything they told me. I was always called an "old soul"...maybe there was a reason for that, maybe not.

I felt like I could not believe the things my parents told me. Why would they tell me not to lie, yet lie to me about so many things? And when I lied about something, I was punished, got in trouble...double standard? I think so!

I decided I would never lie to my children about such things...they are fairy tails...not true...if I want my children to always be honest, and teach them from example, why would I lie to them? I chose not to...

You want to lie to your children,,,and teach them not to lie...what a contradiction! Go right ahead...good luck.

I just asked my 3 teen age girls if they felt "ripped off because they were told the truth about santa, easter bunny, tooth fairy, from the start, they looked at me, shook their heads, and said no...my oldest daughter, 17 said to me, I am glad you never fed us those lies...what is the point?

they ever ask you where they go when they die?


or grandma? what do say to them if they even bothered to ask?

dam, even in china they have holidays, ghost festival for one. moon festival was just a couple weeks ago.

kids will grow out of santa and the easter bunny and tooth fairy soon enough. geeze.

i loved halloween, my daughter did too.

reply to post by chrismarco


As a child, I remember Halloween with great pleasure and happy memories I never once 'believed' I was anything or that I was worshipping anything. It was just a fun holiday mainly for kids.We got to go out, run around and get candy. What can be better than that to a kid?This was a holiday that was brought over here from Irish descendents, much as our other holidays were brought by people from all over.I don't see why there should be an issue with celebrating Christmas, Halloween or any other holiday.These holidays are what binds family's together and helps create happy memories. Are the holidays happy for everyone? No but that doesn't mean no one else should be able to have fun.

I can understand the offensiveness, given Halloween was essentially a Wiccan celebration (Samhain) that was skewed into something other than what it is. When these holidays have spiritual roots, the school has no business involving itself in the commercial lie it's become. School is for teaching, so they shouldn't be perpetuating a warped version of an originally spiritual celebration.

I don't believe in telling kids about the tooth fairy, Santa and all that crap either. It's essentially lying regardless of how cute it seems. Also these characters and holidays are all centered around either keeping the kids in line or commercialism. What does that have to do with a celebration? Holidays and celebrations should be about real things, not made up crap which most of the time doesn't even make sense.

Do kids know why we celebrate "Halloween"?

Do kids know what Santa Claus has to do with "Christ-mas"?

It's just absurd that we go through the motions and don't even think about the lack of substance in these "celebrations".

reply to post by mamabeth


You poor misguided people...yes blame the money greedy companies for pushing halloween and a time for parents and kids to go out trick or treating..I have an idea for those that are offended with these pointless pagan holidays try Iran...I hear the weather is great this time of year and you will never have to worry about all of those pesky holidays..better yet try North Korea...

Originally posted by summer5
reply to post by chrismarco

 

SERIOUSLY! My kids are pretty much grown, mostly teens now. I never told them there was a santa...eater bunny, tooth fairy, etc...NOPE!

My parents told me there was a god I could not see...my parents told me there was a santa - I could not see...tooth fairy, I could not see...I was punished when I lied about something. When I found out they lied to me, I questioned everything they told me. I was always called an "old soul"...maybe there was a reason for that, maybe not.

I felt like I could not believe the things my parents told me. Why would they tell me not to lie, yet lie to me about so many things? And when I lied about something, I was punished, got in trouble...double standard? I think so!

I decided I would never lie to my children about such things...they are fairy tails...not true...if I want my children to always be honest, and teach them from example, why would I lie to them? I chose not to...

You want to lie to your children,,,and teach them not to lie...what a contradiction! Go right ahead...good luck.

I just asked my 3 teen age girls if they felt "ripped off because they were told the truth about santa, easter bunny, tooth fairy, from the start, they looked at me, shook their heads, and said no...my oldest daughter, 17 said to me, I am glad you never fed us those lies...what is the point?

You have a right to your beliefs, and others should be tolerant of those. I don't necessarily agree with you, but I accept it as your right. Now, why shouldn't other kids/families have the right to celebrate holidays as they please?

You don't think Halloween should be celebrated at school in any way. Well, then don't have your kid celebrate. The other kids should be allowed to if they wish. Your kid, or your opinion, shouldn't effect others. I really hope your kids didn't go around ruining Halloween/Santa/Easter Bunny/Tooth Fairy for every other kid. Let kids have what little innocence is left in life.

I went to public school in "East Sudbury", and I have to say, this doesn't surprise me. The west-boston suburbs have a lot of money to spend. These schools bring in the most '"professional" school administrators in the country, from the most prestigious Universities...if you catch my drift.

In addition to that, the school boards are chalk full of super rich parents who don't work and are always pushing on an ideological front. Much of their motivation is not education based, but instead to make schools an institute of social control. As a result, area schools have become a political entity and "mini" bureaucracy more than a place of learning and competition.

Did any of you make valentines in elementary school? I did (not very long ago). We also had a Halloween parade and said the pledge of allegiance if we wanted to. I have some fond memories of these experiences and I think it's sad that schools have become a politically correct battlefield for ideologues. The object of education should be to prepare the young to educate themselves throughout their lives. Social interaction with peers is a big part of that. Sure, a Halloween day doesn't have anything to do with grammar, reading, writing or arithmetic. However, to cultivate a child that is able to think for themselves, and not simply taught what to think, a little contraband wit, fancy and imagination every once in a while isn't always a bad thing.

reply to post by chrismarco


Thanks for your advise....

You do what you want with your kids (if your old enough to have any), I did what I saw best for mine...thanks for your concern.

reply to post by chrismarco


Sorry,I am not the one who is misguided!
I stand by my beliefs and my reasons for
them!

I really wanted to reply to your post with this...
SO,
T&C rules prevent me from making these types
of posts!