Few years of searching and still no certain proof.

Hello ladies and gentelmen.

This theard has nothing to do with showing any pictures or fancy videos. I simply want to tell you how much certain proof I have gathered over the few years. For those of you who hate discussion topics just like me, I will let you know that I have in fact no certain proof. So if you happen to hate pointless topics just like me, ignore this post for my and your sake.


A little bit of introduction then (skip this if you don't care)

I am from Poland and I am currently 18 years old (therefore excuse my English please). I am not doing anything professional here, I simply do some 'research' because I am seeking many unanswered (as of yet) questions. I became interested in the whole idea of UFOs & Aliens about 10 years ago when I first time saw crop circles in the news. When I got a hang of the computer I started using it to find out something abou this top. (Let's say I was about 10). Because The only thing I could understand was "I", "Yes", or "No" in English language, I could only do 'research' in my own lanuage. There was almost nothing about anything and if there was something about nothing it was a total mess/lie/non-sense or whatever you woudl like to call it. Once I got to learn some English, (Let's say that I had enough English skills at age 13) I started doing some real stuff. I then found that most of the information on Polish websites were translated from English to Polish. And because we have so many 'great' English speakers in Poland they did not translate some of the stuff correctly. So at the age of around 13 I began serious brain feeding/calculations/processing on UFOs & Aliens topic.


Finally to the point for which all of you have or have not been waiting for. (THIS IS THE MOST INTERESTING BIT)

For the past 5 years or so, I have been doing a 'research' on this subject. I still have not found a CERTAIN PROOF for aliens visiting this planet. And although I personaly believe that we are being visited and that, I tell all of you who believe too much "Come back!". No matter how many videos or images you have seen, you DO NOT have a certain proof. Does not matter how many stories you heard, you DO NOT have a certain proof. In actual fact even if you have seen a UFO, it does not mean it was a space ship. I have seen ONE UFO in my entire life (as far as I can remember) and I would not say it was a space ship. Rather a falling star, meteor or whatever you want it to be. I would even go to a point where I could say that there was a greater possibility of me going mad. Note that I saw this thing (if I actually saw it) for about 2 seconds. My concusion on it is simple: "We ordinary people CAN NOT tell that we are being visited by aliens".


Some more stuff that you might not care about (Skip it if you do not care)

This is my very first theard post on this forum. Most people seem to spam with useless information to either get attention or to try to find something in nothing. I do not talk about what I 'know' or what I believe in public, you can probably imagine why. 5 years of intensive 'research' can give you quite a lot of information. I know that there are completely different theories on UFOs & Aliens. Some of them don't even have anythign in common, so I believe that we can tell that at least one of these must be fake. I do not read any UFO books because I believe that all the non-government researchers don't 'know' more than I do, and perhaps even less. If you want the truth seek for it yourself. If you want to, read a book, but I don't believe that any book can tell you mroe than I could. I am not going to present you any of my theories or conclusions, this is not what I made this theard for.


In the end a short message. (GOOD AND SHORT STUFF, YOU SHOULD READ IT)

1. If you are doing any 'research' just like me. Please for your own sake... DO NOT GO INTO PUBLIC WITH IT! You might make your friends and everyone around think you are a freak, and that could leave you all on your own. (I did see a few people who claimed they were abducted and/or spoke about Aliens too much.) This subject is being ignored, and everyone who comes up with is being called a 'freak' by others.

2. You DO NOT have a certain proof, (exception for those of you who actually did some governemnt stuff, but I don't think there are any of you here) don't even try to argue here, if you go into deep philosophy, (I am not a philosopher) you will see that you can't be certain of most of the things.

3. Believe what you want to believe. Wanna believe in little green men? Fine by me, don't try to make everyone believe in it though. I saw a few pathetic theards like: "WE HAVE NOT MADE CONTACT, ALIENS DO NOT EXIST!". Say whatever you want, but please... think very well before you post something on forums. This theard name is liek saying: "I DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO TASTE BACON, PIGS DO NOT EXIST!"

4. And finally in the end. Don't start fights on this theard please!

Arguments are welcome.
Questions are welcome.
Fights are NOT welcome.
Sceptics are welcome.
People who make theards like the one I described in number 3, are NOT welcome! (Don't bother)

reply to post by zbyszek420


UFOs are just another part of the paranormal. The nature of the beast, that runs through out all the paranormal divisions ? Such as Bigfoot, ghost , demons, poltergiest, is the now you see me now you don't total mind----.

The same mischievious personality is present in all. You are chasing ghosts my man. to be more precise you will only find that these things are demonic in nature. You'll have more success researching this fact my friend.
Just a tip.

SnF for your work.

Judging by the history of this site. And topics like these. Just from personal research and author of other topics.
Topics like this generally do not go well.

Someone will come in yelling for this topic to be moved.
You will be hit with a random posting ban
Your account may be banned
Your Religion will be insulted (if you have one).
You will be called, troll, sheep etc, and generally insulted..

You don't watch the history channel specials? Well?
Books, Movies Youtube Vids.
That's enough proof for most in this forum.

reply to post by zbyszek420

This is my very first thread post on this forum.

I think you did well for your first post mate.

5 years of intensive 'research' can give you quite a lot of information.

5 WHOLE years will give you more than enough information that will make it hard to talk to the general public while holding it together.

If you are doing any 'research' just like me. Please for your own sake... DO NOT GO INTO PUBLIC WITH IT! You might make your friends and everyone around think you are a freak

Who cares what people who don't respect you think? I told my friends what I saw and yeah, my phone stopped ringing compared to before, but those who were my real friends still like me for who I am not what I represent falsely. Stand firmly in your truth.

I have no proof of "alien" existence other than statistical odds.
I do have pictures of a TR-3B type craft though I took in 2008, but to extract them from broken hard drives I need to take them to an expert.

I did have several incidents after my sighting though that involved many UFOs, to the point where I don't even get excited anymore seeing them. Whether they are alien or not is anyone's guess. They did show up when I wanted them to though, almost like putting on a show for me and a few friends on several different nights. That was pretty weird but was a good show and gave validity to my story I told others.

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by zbyszek420

 

UFOs are just another part of the paranormal. The nature of the beast, that runs through out all the paranormal divisions ? Such as Bigfoot, ghost , demons, poltergiest, is the now you see me now you don't total mind----.

edit on 25-9-2011 by randyvs because: (no reason given)

Right, I see where you are going with this. Perhaps I should also let you know that I will not deny anything. For example, if you happen to tell me that you can teleport or walk throught the walls or even drink water with your finger. I will choose not to believe you, but I will never be able to deny it.

Where am I going with this? I don't believe in Big Foot, but I will never say that Big Foot does not exist.

I also do not believe in the term 'paranormal'. I came up with a nice sentence for things that people cannot explain: "Uninvented does not mean impossible". Therefore whatever exists MUST be normal (but again that is only mye belief).

Thanks for sharing thoughs.

Originally posted by JibbyJedi
reply to post by zbyszek420
Who cares what people who don't respect you think? I told my friends what I saw and yeah, my phone stopped

edit on 25-9-2011 by JibbyJedi because: (no reason given)

This is not about the people who don;t care about you. This is more about yourself. If you happen to have friends who will support you whatever you do or say then you are very lucky. I unfortunately am not in this situation. I don't think any of my friends saw a UFO or did some 'research' on it. Please also note that I do not live in a place where UFO sightings are on a daily basis. They wouldn't turn their back on me if I were to dance naked in a bar while drunk. But I am pretty sure they wouldn't be happy to hang out with me if I were to talk about this all the time, everywhere and to everyone.

Originally posted by StarPeace
Someone will come in yelling for this topic to be moved.
You will be hit with a random posting ban
Your account may be banned
Your Religion will be insulted (if you have one).
You will be called, troll, sheep etc, and generally insulted..

I am aware of these possibilities, I will not care if this account get's banned. If such happens I'll create a new one just to read theards (which I initially made this account for). I am here anonymously (unless you are really desperate to find me) and therefore I do not care what otehrs say about my beliefs or try to troll me.

Thanks for the warning though.

reply to post by zbyszek420


Well that's ok. One thing tho, I never looked at paranormal as not being normal. Just that which runs alongside or parallel to normal.

reply to post by zbyszek420


You are from Poland and only 18 years old, 2 strikes against you right there in the UFO discussion community.
There should be more activity there than in the states/UK "unless" the activity wasn't alien at all and just advanced military craft. Maybe try bringing up that aspect of UFOs to friends, so they won't think you've fallen off the deep end or something. People tend to lend you their ears longer when you are talking about the probable than the improbable.

And don't worry about getting banned, you aren't breaking any T&C and if others come in here yelling and cussing you out, they'll get banned. You are doing nothing wrong.

Originally posted by JibbyJedi
reply to post by zbyszek420

 

You are from Poland and only 18 years old, 2 strikes against you right there in the UFO community.
There should be more activity there than in the states/UK "unless" the activity wasn't alien at all and just advanced military craft.

I never said I live in Poland. And as a matter of fact I happen to live on a 17th floor with a nice view at the sea and some lower buildings, which means that I also have a nice view at the sky. I look in the sky every now and then from my buidling. Still nothing. (I do not spend more than 15 minutes daily on it)

if they are out there i HIGHLY doubt that cotact will be made in our lifetimes,the odds are much too slim

reply to post by zbyszek420


What the hell ? I thought you were in Poland as well.
Ok, so you are in a building where ?

reply to post by zbyszek420


If you are looking for CERTAIN PROOF....I will tell you where to find it. Google....Washington DC UFO flyover capital 1950's. There is a massive amount of information....testimony and interviews with high ranking U.S. politicians, Military leaders, Police, Fire dept, Civil Defence....as well as pictures...USAF information releases of UFO intercept missions and pilot interviews....they were trying to shoot the Alien craft down with no sucess.

There is even interviews with CIA and FBI leadership where in the interviews they state the necessity to protect U.S. Capital airspace and find a way to shoot the Alien craft down.

Another place to find a massive amount of proof of E.T. is in the files of the Agricultural Dept. post 1950. When the FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT...was about to take effect....a huge amount of UFO documentation was DUMPED into these files as a way of HIDDING IN PLAIN SITE! After all...who would search the agricultural dept. files for UFO?

I KNOW for certain....100%....that E.T. is a reality. It is not a wish or assumption nor am I theorizing. I know because of job and family history. And as I have said before....I wish I didn't know. Split Infinity

Originally posted by zbyszek420

Originally posted by JibbyJedi
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You are from Poland and only 18 years old, 2 strikes against you right there in the UFO community.
There should be more activity there than in the states/UK "unless" the activity wasn't alien at all and just advanced military craft.

I never said I live in Poland. And as a matter of fact I happen to live on a 17th floor with a nice view at the sea and some lower buildings, which means that I also have a nice view at the sky. I look in the sky every now and then from my buidling. Still nothing. (I do not spend more than 15 minutes daily on it)

edit on 25-9-2011 by zbyszek420 because: (no reason given)

I am from Poland

You're right I misunderstood, do you live in the states? There's a lot of UFO activity over New England which is where I live currently.

Originally posted by VicDiaz89
if they are out there i HIGHLY doubt that cotact will be made in our lifetimes,the odds are much too slim

If you're expecting "contact" to be like in the movies, then I agree with you. I think it'll be on an individual basis when it happens though, and when/if it does happen like that, how many people will actually believe the contactees? So I think the information/secrets protect themselves based on the public's perception of the absurdity of such a claim, in our lifetimes.

Originally posted by VicDiaz89
if they are out there i HIGHLY doubt that cotact will be made in our lifetimes,the odds are much too slim

I happen to believe that it all depends on us. If I were to ignore all the thories and conclusions that I have made over the years and someone asked me "Why won't THEY make contact with us?", I would simply say "Look at us! Would you want such primitive, stiupid and pathetic beings to be a part of our great galactical union? They can't stop fighting among themselves, why should we risk a war in the Universe?!" Again this is what I would say if I never did any 'research' or make any theories and conclusions.

So if we happen to be closest to perfect than ever before then, I would say that SOMEONE would make an open contact with us in our lifetime. Looking at the humanity... We need SOMEONE, we need help, really bad!

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
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If you are looking for CERTAIN PROOF....I will tell you where to find it. Google....Washington DC UFO flyover capital 1950's.

I KNOW for certain....100%....that E.T. is a reality. It is not a wish or assumption nor am I theorizing. I know because of job and family history. And as I have said before....I wish I didn't know. Split Infinity

Been there, done that. I watched more videos than you think. Did you watch Battle Los Angeles? That looked pretty damnn real, yet I happen to say it wasn't. You can fake EVERYTHING if you want to.

About you being 100% certain. Seeing a video cannot make you believe. I really suggest you sit down on a comfy chair in a quiet room and start from the begging. "Cogito ergo sum." or "I think, I exist". Then see what you can or cannot deny.

Sorry, but even if you happen to be telling the truth, there are too many people seekign attention. I can't simply believe everything people tell me or show me. If you believe you are certain of it then you can only be almost certain of it. (Going very deep now, beware.) Perhaps your brain is connected to a machine which feeds it with information. You never know for certain, you might as well have spent all your life on a chair connected to a computer.

If what you claim to be truth (not going into philosophy this time) then thank you for sharing, but there is too much false stuff to say "This guy is tellign the truth!"

Originally posted by randyvs
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What the hell ? I thought you were in Poland as well.

Ok, so you are in a building where ?

edit on 25-9-2011 by randyvs because: (no reason given)

Right, sorry about the delay, but there are more respones than I actually expected.
I wanted to keep this information confidential, but I am currently located in UK.

reply to post by SplitInfinity

I KNOW for certain....100%....that E.T. is a reality. It is not a wish or assumption nor am I theorizing. I know because of job and family history. And as I have said before....I wish I didn't know. Split Infinity

You don't sound very forth coming but I would really like to try and understand that which you know. thru some questions.
Star for raising my interests.

Zby
OMG ! Please, never hesitate to tell someone such as myself to pss off if they ask you something you don't want to divuldge. Although it is still fairly confidential, I feel I might have jeopardised your security in some way.
And that is not acceptable for me to do that. I will run 10 red lights tomorrow during rush hour.