Facebook tracks you even after logging out

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why would anyone believe that having such a vast and FREE data bank available to the public, that it would be left untapped....i mean common people, its like finding oil and saying nah...i would rather be on unemployment benefits.


but not to worry, facebook isnt evil, its the people who still believe that without facebook they seem to be loosing out on life...oh the e-drama is more hard core than than " Dallas"




JR rocks....!

Why should I care what info FB has on me? Will this cost me money? No! Will it atop me using the internet? No!

It might result in me getting adverts which I might be vaguely interested in, rather than loads of bull I don't care about - is that a bad thing?

SO FB know about my surfing habits - I don't care. It does not cost me anything financialy, emotionally or in any other way, and it does not spoil or effect in any way my online experience.

So what is the big issue? If you are dumb enough to publish your home address and all your telephone numbers on anywhere on the internet, let alone FB, then that is your problem. Beyond that...... Pha! I have no worries.

reply to post by Shamatt


I post pictures of my daughter on Facebook to my friends and family in a well managed profile. I don't want "friends-of-friends" to access that information, as I don't know them so therefore I don't trust them. That new feature is coming with "timeline"..... So since I cannot ask my family and friends, some who have over 400 friends which means they don't really know their friends, to start de-friending people, it's me who has to leave and find a new way to share personal stuff. I do not live around.many friends and family so Facebook was a the best option for sharing pics, video and other tidbits... not any more. I am aware of security, and this officially pushed it too far.

To those thinking of deleting their FB--let your REAL friends know, I deleted my account last week and Im still getting calls of the "why did you defriend me?" type.

what I did first was create a "page" for myself, this means if people search for me on FB they can still find me and my site, they just cant friend me.

Oh facebook. *sigh*

I joined in 2007, and have for the past year tried to delete all the old posts on my wall. FINALLY a week ago I met with success. Let's just say they make it extremely difficult to erase all of your old posts. In fact you might think you have none left, and you will click on "show old posts" at the bottom of your feed and it will not show any more. However if you keep clicking over and over it will reveal these old posts. Now the hard part is to delete them. I usually had to wait a week or two in between a big delete session because after a while they just refused to erase. No amount of clicking "remove post" would erase it. I also used a couple of macros that people had created specifically for erasing all the posts, which definitely cut down in time, but I had to monitor because facebook would try and trick this macro into not doing it's job.

Thankfully I met with success just before the latest changes in facebook rolled out, which rendered the new macro useless.

Now I only keep 10 posts up on facebook and promptly delete any number over that.

I really hate the new changes though and really think I am going to leave soon. The only reason I was keeping it was really to keep in touch with my family and close friends from abroad since I live near none of them anymore. However, there other ways to keep in touch I might have to dig into.

So, if you're trying to erase all your old wall posts, remember, facebook is one tricky mother, and if you think they're gone, they're probably not. So check, check and double check.

Originally posted by Jason88
reply to post by Shamatt

 

I post pictures of my daughter on Facebook to my friends and family in a well managed profile. I don't want "friends-of-friends" to access that information, as I don't know them so therefore I don't trust them. That new feature is coming with "timeline"..... So since I cannot ask my family and friends, some who have over 400 friends which means they don't really know their friends, to start de-friending people, it's me who has to leave and find a new way to share personal stuff. I do not live around.many friends and family so Facebook was a the best option for sharing pics, video and other tidbits... not any more. I am aware of security, and this officially pushed it too far.

edit on 25-9-2011 by Jason88 because: (no reason given)

All you need to do is set up facebook so that "Friends Only" can see your profile, your posts and you albums. This might take a minute or two. After that, I think the problem you describe is solved. Nothing has really changed. It is just dosplaying the info it has always had in a new way. Security on FB is not as hard as people make out. Any way - this thread os about gather information on surfing habits, which is a different topic all together.

Someones britches are getting too big. You know, before facebook came along, there was myspace. Everybody had a myspace account. Then facebook came along and nearly killed myspace. Facebook needs to realize, there are plenty of people who would love to create the next social networking site. I hope they get their chance and render facebook bankrupt. Given all of the recent things I have seen about them, remarks about removing online privacy and all of that, now this, it seems like they think they should get to make the rules for the rest of us. Like what we think doesn't matter. Send this freaking kid to the poor house people, delete you facebook account.

reply to post by Shamatt


I installed the developer app to get the new timeline faster and new layout... I can see everything now that friend-of-friends are doing only if friends interact with them first. I use FB for work related tasks as well so I am keenly aware of its settings, though I see no way to turn this off now, no way to reenact that particular privacy setting. But you're right, Facebook tracks you, and its APIs plug-into every popular site out there so they can sell your data to those sites to better understand and market to you. The problem is every site wants to be like AOL of 90s again, a one stop shop for all your needs.

Use privacy mode for browsing in FF or Chrome, log out of each session, and unplug your router once a day to reset your IP address. That should keep FB at bay.

Originally posted by Jason88
reply to post by Shamatt

 

I installed the developer app to get the new timeline faster and new layout... I can see everything now that friend-of-friends are doing only if friends interact with them first. I use FB for work related tasks as well so I am keenly aware of its settings, though I see no way to turn this off now, no way to reenact that particular privacy setting. But you're right, Facebook tracks you, and its APIs plug-into every popular site out there so they can sell your data to those sites to better understand and market to you. The problem is every site wants to be like AOL of 90s again, a one stop shop for all your needs.

Use privacy mode for browsing in FF or Chrome, log out of each session, and unplug your router once a day to reset your IP address. That should keep FB at bay.

edit on 26-9-2011 by Jason88 because: (no reason given)

Well, just because you can see all your friends friends des not mean they can sewe you, if your posts and pics etc are set up not to be shared with them - fir example. I have a 12 year old neice who friended me on FB - couldn't not add her she would have been upset. So I set my privicy. I know that she sees none of my posts, or pictures. It is not hard to do. I can still see the things she posts.

Reseting your router will not always get you a new IP address. Most DNS servers will assign leases to make the process of giving out an address quicker - so more often than not you could just get the same address back.
I don't see what all the worry is abuot any way.

reply to post by Highlander64


There is an obvious growing transparency throughout the world, and it's been expanding since history started to be recorded. I do feel that full transparency is something that is essential, or at least the process of moving towards full transparency. It forces us to look at ourselves and reevaluate the decision we make. I feel that it brings us to balance and ultimately to good. People focus on the downside far too much without looking at the upside. Look at crime for instance. Yes, facial recognition IS scary, but more and more, it forces those who might consider committing a crime stop and think, "Is it really worth it?" If you realize the chances of you getting caught are high than you might well reconsider making that poor decision. I believe the reason why we're all afraid of how transparent things are getting is due to the fact that our personal privacy is shrinking faster than we can adapt our own behavior. It's an obvious concern, but I think soon you'll see it begin to plateau a bit, and we'll be equipped with new tools to help maintain a level of personal privacy (e.g. think new and improved proxy servers, but they'll be more readily accessible, and practically in the hands of everyone -- we've already seen steps towards this, for instance Firefox and Safari have allowed their users to turn on an option that permits "private browsing").

Originally posted by Jason88
reply to post by Shamatt

 

I installed the developer app to get the new timeline faster and new layout... I can see everything now that friend-of-friends are doing only if friends interact with them first. I use FB for work related tasks as well so I am keenly aware of its settings, though I see no way to turn this off now, no way to reenact that particular privacy setting. But you're right, Facebook tracks you, and its APIs plug-into every popular site out there so they can sell your data to those sites to better understand and market to you. The problem is every site wants to be like AOL of 90s again, a one stop shop for all your needs.

Use privacy mode for browsing in FF or Chrome, log out of each session, and unplug your router once a day to reset your IP address. That should keep FB at bay.

edit on 26-9-2011 by Jason88 because: (no reason given)

seems like the average user haas to do an awful lot to 'work around' what facebook should not have in their cookies to start with

why should we do all this stuff? - doh! because they have the RIGHT to spy on us!!!!

ug. i deactivated my facebook last week. took forever, seriously... it asked for my password... then it showed pics of my friends with some sad little caption that said "so and so will miss you" ... then it wanted a captcha. i thought at any moment they were going to come strip my of my colors and scrub the tattoo on my back *snicker* - not really but it was a little "blood in, blood out" for me. LOL.

you know... i GET that they basically data mine... and they sell your information off to advertisers and all of that. and i GET it... it is a business. and i knew that the whole time i had a facebook. but what did it for me, was when they rolled out these changes, and they rendered any of your privacy settings that allow you to control what your friends can and cannot see. that just wasn't cool at all. fine. sell me to the highest bidder so they can try to sell me stuff. i accept that the internet has become one huge infomercial. But for the love of god, please let me have SOME control of what i share with my friends and family.

Once sad thing I did hear from a friend. that awful ticker they added that shows every comment you make, which no longer only shows that stuff to just the "mutual friends" you have with the person you comment, but rather shows them to everyone on your friend list... anyway, this guy is gay, but had not, nor was he ready to, "come out" to his family. the previous way that facebook was set up, was that you had a little control over who could see what you commented to others by tweaking your privacy settings a little.. you know, basically you could make midget porn jokes to your friend... and your grandma never saw it. Anyway, this guy had been able to make comments here and there to some of his gay male friends and not have to worry too much bout his family seeing it - you know... he had his privacy options set, and since they weren't "mutual friends" it didn't appear in everyone else's newsfeed. Enter the evil "ticker" - And since facebook was so vague about that thing, they just kind of rolled it out with no explanation (like that you have to BEG your friends to change their "subscription" options on YOU, so essentially you have to beg your friends to set your privacy options FOR you... individually.) - long story short, he was unaware of the full voodoo that is the ticker and he made a comment to a guy friend and the facebook ticker "outted" him to his family.

that is just awful in my book. and the Zuckerberg's can take their "complete transparency on the internet" crap and stick up their lilly white a$$es.- complete transparency, pshhh, are you kidding me? this coming from the guy who only made it on the internet by being a little data thief to begin with?

i already knew this . i have a facebook account but its only for supporting the revolution movement, ron paul, 911 truth, end the fed and so on.

i know im on the 'List'. i stopped caring about it long time ago.

reply to post by highpriestess


I deactivated my Facebook this past April. On occasion I might briefly reactivate it to see something particular that might be going on, but it's never more than a few minutes. It's really incredibly liberating.

Surprised none of you have mentioned this yet. For those of you using Firefox, Chrome or Safari, download the add-on/plugin called 'Ghostery' and enable web-bug AND cookie blocking. For the most part it won't interrupt your browsing experience, and for the 0.5% of sites that require you to disable it to use, it probably ain't worth your visit anyway.

www.ghostery.com...

I find this, combined with Adblock Plus in Firefox gives the least intrusive browsing experience out. You'd be surprised what bugs ats are tracking you with....

reply to post by Highlander64


In this thread you will find instructions for creating a batch file to remove LSO's (Local Shared Objects), and a link to a small utility called "Kill Flash Cookies". These remove otherwise permanant cookies from your computer.

If that link is broken, here is an alternate link:
www.softpedia.com...


Secret Cookies On Your Computer That You Cannot Delete
www.abovetopsecret.com...

cool innit

reply to post by Highlander64


Privacy beyond the bedroom is for the insecure. As long as the constitution stands, I don't have to worry about whose tracking me for whatever reason. I am a free man.

Originally posted by Jason88
reply to post by pianopraze

 

I'm this [--] close to deleting my account, especially with these new timeline features set to further open up responsible locked down profiles.

I heard you can't actually delete your account, and that Facebook keeps your photos and information.........................indefinitely.
Though if anyone knows how to delete the Facebook account totally i would love to know. Remember me if you find an answer, I'll be waiting.