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Woman decapitated in Mexico for web posting

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posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 02:13 AM
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Probably not, but instead of dropping bombs we could think why the system works like this after so many years, I think legalization and regularization can be the answer but that would only benefit the citizens.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 02:21 AM
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Sounds like good police sense to me. Why WOULD they need to find any poster in particular to get their
message across. That is what you call a real terrorist.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 03:45 AM
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Mexican drug cartels must have CIA advisers. Reminds me of Chilean terror after they killed Allende. Randomize victims to scare everyone.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 04:09 AM
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probably be a good idea if they inform those they are talking to on the internet, that they aren't interested in a discussion, just people willing to listen to whatever it is they have on their minds. cause with as many people as there are in the world, there's always going to be differences of opinion, especially on social sites.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 04:15 AM
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would be a good idea if it's legalized to then train the cartel guys how to sell it legally, in their own businesses. problems solved for all concerned.
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posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 05:42 AM
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would be a good idea if it's legalized to then train the cartel guys how to sell it legally, in their own businesses. problems solved for all concerned.


Yeah, we could deliver sales training classes in air-conditioned classrooms, six-hour days, 2 20 minute breaks and a one hour lunch break. We'd supply refreshments, of course...pastries and fruit in the morning, cookies and snacks in the afternoon. Coffee and cold drinks all day long.

We could actually sponsor Salesman of the Month awards...first prize a new Cadillac, second prize .. a set of steak knives.

In no time at all, using just the milk of human kindness, we could have them trading in their chainsaws in return for sales order forms. No more decaps. Bingo!


I think you're on to something.

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posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by undo
 



would be a good idea if it's legalized to then train the cartel guys how to sell it legally, in their own businesses. problems solved for all concerned.


Yeah, we could deliver sales training classes in air-conditioned classrooms, six-hour days, 2 20 minute breaks and a one hour lunch break. We'd supply refreshments, of course...pastries and fruit in the morning, cookies and snacks in the afternoon. Coffee and cold drinks all day long.

We could actually sponsor Salesman of the Month awards...first prize a new Cadillac, second prize .. a set of steak knives.

In no time at all, using just the milk of human kindness, we could have them trading in their chainsaws in return for sales order forms. No more decaps. Bingo!


I think you're on to something.

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wellll if it's legalized, somebody's gonna sell it legally. and they did apparently drum up their clientele so they already have a consumer market for the product. sorta like when prohibition ended, the bootlegger bosses ended up owning the beer factories. (or owned them already). not sure on that one, been awhile since i read about that.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 06:44 AM
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You are right son we need to legalize....This power needs to be removed...



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 07:21 AM
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Legalize drugs and abolish those murderers

Great idea...



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by dpage
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The MSM does not show or tell anything close to the truth of what really goes on everyday south of our border.

The site below has been posting for long time the horrors. . Warning ! The truth is very graphic in reality.

www.blogdelnarco.com


that blog is insane..and it points to how sanitized our news in the US really is. all the people who call those of us who want to stop illegal immigration racist should look at it, because, along with the honest people looking for a new life, come these murderers too. can't separate them, goes hand in hand. gun control laws, really, are just about keeping you defenseless and dependent on the state. I've carried concealed in "non-permissive" environments before; I think it's time I did that regularly again. the world is too crazy, and I'm not interested in getting caught out there defenseless.
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posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
See.. this is a legitimate use for our military capabilities. I would have no problem dropping a few smart bombs on these mexican cartels, but instead we are dropping them on I don't know what, on the other side of the world, for I don't know why.


I couldn't agree more!!!

These groups are scary and ruthless!



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 08:34 AM
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that blog is insane..and it points to how sanitized our news in the US really is. all the people who call those of us who want to stop illegal immigration racist should look at it, because, along with the honest people looking for a new life, come these murderers too. can't separate them, goes hand in hand. gun control laws, really, are just about keeping you defenseless and dependent on the state. I've carried concealed in "non-permissive" environments before; I think it's time I did that regularly again. the world is too crazy, and I'm not interested in getting caught out there defenseless.


I had to slam my eyes shut watching the video of the nephew/uncle. We definitely do not want that stuff up here.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by cerebralassassins


While reading the article i could not help but think why on earth would you post something knowing very well that your life is in danger and not by some alphabet agency but rather a group of lawless people who obviously are being shielded by a corrupt government that has its roots so deep within the political system that it would require a full blown civil war to clean the country.

I guess it all boils down to the ordinary citizen to get out and voice his or her opinion. Sadly history has shown us that only through the loss of life and mass exposure of events is change ever achieved.

Hang tight Mexicans, it wont be too long before scenes similar to Syrian's protests end up being broadcast from Mexico.

www.seattlepi.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


It's called martyrdom. You do what you believe in even if you die for it.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
See.. this is a legitimate use for our military capabilities. I would have no problem dropping a few smart bombs on these mexican cartels, but instead we are dropping them on I don't know what, on the other side of the world, for I don't know why.


... or we could just legalize them and starve the cartels out of business. I don't know why we didn't learn our lesson with prohibition early last century. Our "war on drugs" (and not the drugs themselves) is why that woman and others like her die pointless deaths.


It's Crazy to think legalizing drugs will starve the cartels out of business. The Government will use the cartels to get the drugs.. They have been using the cartels for years. If the Gov don't use the cartels the cartels will make war with the government. Have you seen all the weapons they have and the lack of US response to them. The Gov will be hard pressed to stop them. The cartels are like the mob, they are embedded everywhere scattered throughout the world. We could never round them up to stop them all. They are not a centralized enemy that we can fight. They are the new terrorists but because our Gov does business with them on a regular basis they wont officially declare war on them.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 08:53 AM
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just secure the border. problem solved.

this isnt rocket science.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by mishigas
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that blog is insane..and it points to how sanitized our news in the US really is. all the people who call those of us who want to stop illegal immigration racist should look at it, because, along with the honest people looking for a new life, come these murderers too. can't separate them, goes hand in hand. gun control laws, really, are just about keeping you defenseless and dependent on the state. I've carried concealed in "non-permissive" environments before; I think it's time I did that regularly again. the world is too crazy, and I'm not interested in getting caught out there defenseless.


I had to slam my eyes shut watching the video of the nephew/uncle. We definitely do not want that stuff up here.


I feel ya, I watched it all the way through. the guy camera right got the chainsaw, the guy on the left got decapitated by knife. it took a few minutes of sawing to get the head off. I needed to see that, just to burn into my head what we're dealing with here. some people DO NOT VALUE HUMAN LIFE. and the US government/state government has to balls to try to stop us from carrying weps for self-protection? # that. everyone needs to look at that video..monsters walk among us. defend yourself. it's your right, and your duty.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by JohnPhoenix

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
See.. this is a legitimate use for our military capabilities. I would have no problem dropping a few smart bombs on these mexican cartels, but instead we are dropping them on I don't know what, on the other side of the world, for I don't know why.


... or we could just legalize them and starve the cartels out of business. I don't know why we didn't learn our lesson with prohibition early last century. Our "war on drugs" (and not the drugs themselves) is why that woman and others like her die pointless deaths.


It's Crazy to think legalizing drugs will starve the cartels out of business. The Government will use the cartels to get the drugs.. They have been using the cartels for years. If the Gov don't use the cartels the cartels will make war with the government. Have you seen all the weapons they have and the lack of US response to them. The Gov will be hard pressed to stop them. The cartels are like the mob, they are embedded everywhere scattered throughout the world. We could never round them up to stop them all. They are not a centralized enemy that we can fight. They are the new terrorists but because our Gov does business with them on a regular basis they wont officially declare war on them.


It always leaves a paper trail and all that money needs to invested into something, thats what you hit and hit hard, however, since we are in the cyber revolution of the human race it really isn't that hard hitting their so called safe havens but that does require a green light.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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A little background from earlier threads and sources.

en.wikipedia.org...(Mexico)

In the late 1990s, the Gulf Cartel leader, Osiel Cárdenas Guillen, wanted to track down and kill rival cartel members as a form of protection. He began to recruit former Mexican Army’s elite Grupo Aeromóvil de Fuerzas Especiales (GAFE) soldiers. Some of the initial members of the group received specialized military training in counter-insurgency and locating and apprehending drug cartel members in the United States at Fort Benning, Georgia in the early 1990s while still members of the Mexican military.[26]

Cardenas Guillen's top recruit, lieutenant Arturo Guzmán Decena, brought with him approximately 30 other GAFE deserters enticed by salaries substantially higher than those paid by the Mexican government. The role of Los Zetas was soon expanded, collecting debts, securing coc aine supply and trafficking routes known as plazas (zones) and executing its foes, often with grotesque savagery


www.counterpunch.org...

Imagine what your reaction would be if the Mexican government agreed to pay Barack Obama $1.4 billion to deploy US troops and armored vehicles to New York, Los Angeles and Chicago to conduct military operations, set up check points, and engage in fire-fights that end up killing 35,000 US civilians on the streets of American cities.

This isn’t about drugs; it’s about a crackpot foreign policy that supports proxy-armies to impose order through police-state repression and militarization. It’s about expanding US power and beefing up profits on Wall Street.

“Drug profits, in the most basic sense, are secured through the ability of the cartels to launder and transfer billions of dollars through the US banking system. The scale and scope of the US banking-drug cartel alliance surpasses any other economic activity of the US private banking system. According to US Justice Department records, one bank alone laundered $378.3 billion dollars between May 1, 2004 and May 31, 2007 (The Guardian, May 11, 2011). Every major bank in the US has served as an active financial partner of the murderous drug cartels…

“If the major US banks are the financial engines which allow the billion dollar drug empires to operate, the White House, the US Congress and the law enforcement agencies are the basic protectors of these banks…..Laundering drug money is one of the most lucrative sources of profit for Wall Street; the banks charge hefty commissions on the transfer of drug profits, which they then lend to borrowing institutions at interest rates far above what ? if any ? they pay to drug trafficker depositors. Awash in sanitized drug profits, these US titans of the finance world can easily buy their own elected officials to perpetuate the system. ("How Drug Profits saved Capitalism" , James Petras, Global Research)

Repeat: "Every major bank in the US has served as an active financial partner of the murderous drug cartels…"


Some suspicion the CIA advisors here in Mexico overseeing Drug War efforts continue to have contacts with the Zetas who largely keep things in a state of chaos. There may be a greater agenda in keeping things in disorder around the border areas.

This post was made in Mexico, BTW.



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posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 09:28 AM
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Meh, Mexico is corrupt and crazy. Screw them. Nothing is surprising coming out of that place.



posted on Sep, 25 2011 @ 09:39 AM
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Wake up! Wake up!

One only need to decapitate the Drug Cartel, just legalize Marijuana! It would be a dismemberment to last!



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