Morgan Freeman: Obama Made Racism Worse, Tea Party Will Do 'Whatever [It] Can To Get This Black Man

When Freeman stops shagging his own 17 year old step grandaughter then I will listen to him. Until then he is just eewww in my eyes

Originally posted by centurion1211
But saying things when you are famous makes some people take those words as an automatic truth - when they're not an automatic truth.

There's no accounting for stupid. He still has his 1st Amendment right to free speech. If someone buys what he says at face value, that's their problem and frankly, there's nothing anyone can do about it.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by centurion1211
But saying things when you are famous makes some people take those words as an automatic truth - when they're not an automatic truth.

There's no accounting for stupid. He still has his 1st Amendment right to free speech. If someone buys what he says at face value, that's their problem and frankly, there's nothing anyone can do about it.

Let's try this again using an analogy.

If someone standing in a large crowd makes a statement, most of the crowd will probably never hear what they said.

However, give them a bullhorn and most everyone will hear them.

The MSM is Freeman's - and all the others playing off their fame - "bullhorn".

Freeman and the rest of them are well aware of this.

Pretending Freeman is just another citizen when he speaks is ridiculous.

Its sad a half and half man gets no LOVE 1 sees so it seems prefered 1 or the other makes everyone happy. SMH

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So? Seriously I don't get the problem. He has his rights and he is exercising them. There's plenty of pundits on their soapboxes on the alphabet channels. He's no different.

Originally posted by intrepid
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So? Seriously I don't get the problem. He has his rights and he is exercising them. There's plenty of pundits on their soapboxes on the alphabet channels. He's no different.

Except when a liberal black man expresses his opinion its using a bullhorn but when a right wing celebrity like Palin, Limbaugh, Ted Nugent, Chuck Norris, John Elway, Clint Eastwood, Pat Boone or Danny Aiello express their conservative opinion its patriotic and divinely inspired.....

There's a word for this.....

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You DO know that mentioning Ted Nugent and Pat Boone in the same paragraph will cause people to have seizures, right?

Yes, it's the political make up of America these days. Both sides play it. Sad. Still rights are rights. I think that the Fairness Doctrine should be brought back and get rid of this partisan crap.

Originally posted by intrepid
I think that the Fairness Doctrine should be brought back and get rid of this partisan crap.

Contemporary Journalist no longer understand that...

You are only entitled to an opinion as long as you do not have all the facts, but once you have the facts you are obligated to the truth.

Journalism today is all opinion with little or no facts.

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More like foolish on my part for even trying to engage someone in debate who is either unwilling or unable to follow the conversation.

trying now to figure out if you're confused maybe - dishonest - or just plain stubborn

:-)

if it's stubborn - you've met your match

thanks about the avatar - sincerely

was actually thinking about making a new one...

catch you in another post Centurion

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Pretending Freeman is just another citizen when he speaks is ridiculous.

Who is pretending? He knows - we know - everybody knows he has celebrity - he will get more attention than you will or I will. What does that matter?

What about the actual politicians? Should we take their views more seriously - and why?

You don't agree that freedom of speech is for everybody - all of us?

Do you want to restrict or censor certain kinds of people - actually prevent them from being able to speak?

hi again - Centurion

Interested in your thoughts on all this

:-)

Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by centurion1211

 

So? Seriously I don't get the problem. He has his rights and he is exercising them. There's plenty of pundits on their soapboxes on the alphabet channels. He's no different.

A "pundit on their soapboxes on the alphabet channels" is not the average citizen who's voice would never get heard.

Thanks.

Originally posted by centurion1211
A "pundit on their soapboxes on the alphabet channels" is not the average citizen who's voice would never get heard.

I know, I said that he was no different from the pundits. What's the problem? That "average Joe" doesn't have a voice? Let him run for office then. Btw, the average persons voice is heard on election day. Supposedly.

Originally posted by whaaa

Originally posted by intrepid
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So? Seriously I don't get the problem. He has his rights and he is exercising them. There's plenty of pundits on their soapboxes on the alphabet channels. He's no different.

Except when a liberal black man expresses his opinion its using a bullhorn but when a right wing celebrity like Palin, Limbaugh, Ted Nugent, Chuck Norris, John Elway, Clint Eastwood, Pat Boone or Danny Aiello express their conservative opinion its patriotic and divinely inspired.....

There's a word for this.....

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Yes there is. No one is pretending those people aren't doing the same thing - using their fame to makes themselves heard. We just don't hear them quite so much.

EXCEPT ...

None of those people are using their fame to fan the flames of racism for political gain.

THE SUBJECT OF THE OP ...

You seem to think that it's OK for Freeman to do that.

You say there's a word ...

There's also an icon for not getting the concept.

Originally posted by Spiramirabilis

Interested in your thoughts on all this

Then read the thread (for a change) ...

They're all over it.

Originally posted by centurion1211
You seem to think that it's OK for Freeman to do that.

Which does not negate the fact that he has the right to free speech. Would you not agree?

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by centurion1211
You seem to think that it's OK for Freeman to do that.

Which does not negate the fact that he has the right to free speech. Would you not agree?

EXCEPT ...

We hear from liberals here all about how the actions of some no name hick at an obscure political rally somehow means that everyone in the tea party is a racist.

How does Freeman not get painted with the same brush - a bigger brush even - since he is using his celebrity status to push an equally divisive racial message?

Again, the subject of the OP ...

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by intrepid
I think that the Fairness Doctrine should be brought back and get rid of this partisan crap.

Contemporary Journalist no longer understand that...

You are only entitled to an opinion as long as you do not have all the facts, but once you have the facts you are obligated to the truth.

Journalism today is all opinion with little or no facts.

Finally a post of yours I can agree with.

As long as you meant it fairly.

Because if you ever read my posts, I back them up with sources for facts (as they are known at the time) far more than most people here. Which is also pointed out by my current signature.

Thanks.

Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by intrepid
Which does not negate the fact that he has the right to free speech. Would you not agree?

EXCEPT ...

There is no "except" when it comes to Constitutional rights. OK, what is your solution to this then?

Look ...

No one is disputing anyone's 1st amendment rights. But what about being responsible? You, know like yelling fire in a crowded theater isn't cool?

A celebrity yelling "racism" during a heated campaign isn't cool either.

Everyone please re-read the title of the OP.

It doesn't say Freeman doesn't have the right to speak.

It says:

Morgan Freeman: Obama Made Racism Worse, Tea Party Will Do 'Whatever [It] Can To Get This Black Man

It says Freeman is blaming obama for making racism worse.

Shouldn't you on the left be piling on Freeman (and not me).

Far too many people here (mostly from the left it seems) love to play "shoot the messenger" when they can come up with nothing against the message. This thread is full of examples of that.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by intrepid
Which does not negate the fact that he has the right to free speech. Would you not agree?

EXCEPT ...

There is no "except" when it comes to Constitutional rights. OK, what is your solution to this then?

Hell there isn't.

As I just pointed out. Try yelling "Fire" in a theater, and you'll quickly find out that exceptions exist to 1st amendment rights.