The vanishing passengers: It's a mystery as bizarre as it is disturbing - why have 165 people gone

reply to post by patternfinder


Pattern I wasn't able to watch the Vid.. friggin Youtube.. any how I was thinking about an international ring myself.. not necessarily all of the disappearances off ships are related to this however, I do believe that a small percentage tiny tiny may fall to this particular chicanery.

reply to post by detachedindividual


I well know the sorrowfull end of people on walkabout.. just so happens I know a number of bumbs, junkies, and gypsy ragabouts, Iam an EMT you see and one of the things I have tried to cultivate over the years is a working knowledge of all the vagrant types that wonder in and out of the areas I work.. or live... for the info they give as much as human interaction, don't know how many times everyone's car on the block got broken into and mine left alone...However what I am getting at... Is that these people spend A LOT of money to go on these cruises and that the safety precautions taken are woeful at best, there was another poster Da Pickles I believe who brought up MOB's an excellent idea, especially for a cruise line that gets the prices it does for tickets and fare aboard.

Originally posted by Mianeye
I am a sailor and it's not unusual for people to disappear from ships, i have witness one ung guy we had, who simply jumped because he was constantly. seasick.
He was placed on the ship not hired, cause of to many criminal act's, to try and turn him back to an angel citizen.

I have witness several people, go overboard by drukness in harbor or work and accident at sea.
Luck is that everyone of those, was saved.

One freind was not, he fell between the ship and wharf and got killed, i did not see that as i was not on that ship.

I have only been to the water by accident one time in 20 years, but this job required livewest at all time, cause of currents, so they managed to pick me up.

Only a fool ignores the danger of the sea.

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My friend I have seen a man crushed between ships at harbor, I have dragged drowned men out of the water and brought em coughing back Ive seen men blown off the deck of carriers, I was Navy at one point in this sorted existence, why I have the opinion of my Government that I do.

I know the Sea is the most dangerous foe a man can face.

However these cruise ships are designed with each of those problems in mind. It is the consistency that these disappearances happen the "No moon" nights, my point in opening this thread was,
1. Awareness
2. Constructive Ideas (thank you Da Pickles)
3. Other similar stories of disappearances in strange situations, or supposedly safe situations
4. Perhaps the collective here will find one of these missing...

Originally posted by da pickles
reply to post by newcovenant

 

in the uk the RNLI(royal national lifeboat institution)created a device called gaurdian MOB , it was invented for the fishing fleet and works by all crew wearing something similar to a pager, if a crew member leaves the vicinity of the vessel ie falls overboard then once out of a set range an alarm sounds in the wheel house and after 2 minutes an automated distress is sent to the RNLI which is forwarded to the coastgaurd to initiate a rescue from the last known position.
would it be possible to incorporate a system similar to this on a cruise liner? possible but trying to get people to remember to carry around the unit would be a problem. the second problem would be that although it would alert the bridge the cruise liner would probably be out of range of an effective SAR asset to assist in a rescue.
a second thought springs to mind, how many people have dissapeared in the same timescale from package holidays?
www.rnli.org.uk...

If I could star you ten times I would...this should be implemented at the cruise level and retrieval teams trained and on stand by, these people shell out dough and have families that would love to see them back, seems to be common sense to employ device like this.

reply to post by Lynda101


I wonder how many stories exactly like that there are, I mean people disappearing right in front of others or in small towns that everyone knows them and would say "eh-yah saw him drivin sout nigh quarter an hour 'go". These are the kind of disappearances that get me on edge, I can understand, truck stops, rest stops, City streets, hell any town over 3000, but small dutchy type places, hiking a trail with a friend, hanging up the phone as they say they are around the corner, on a ship in the friggin ocean, all of these types, are just plain disturbing.

My heart goes out to your friend, and the post earlier by Sonny 1 where an actual eyewitness account of someone "falling into nothingess" got me to thinking what if he found a tear in time space, or as others have thrown out became part of impressed work force, was he of an technical skill your friends husband?

Originally posted by dragonridr
reply to post by LanternOfDiogenes

 

I dont believe its a mystery at all add alcohol and water and that's a bad combination.

2nd post nailed it, aaand then speculation came into being.

reply to post by akiros

Not all speculation is bad, it merely expanded to what other strange disappearances have been documented, ways to combat said obvious answer, ie better safety precautions, better communication and awareness on the travelers part, better accountability controls, not that we will change the world but some delving into a problem some acknowledgment of its existence no matter the, perhaps, mundane cause, is ever a bad thing man you've never wondered where things just disappear too, or known someone its happened too?

I still get put out by the seemingly sock obsessed faye running around this planet,,, what the hell do they do with all those socks?!?