Ahmadinejad speaking at the UN - Is he going to declare war?

Originally posted by Truth4Thought

Originally posted by gravitational
reply to post by Corruption Exposed

 

I'm sure you can find plenty of Arabic speaking members around here.

You mean Persian right?

LOL, Gravitational tried to convince me he translated Mahmoud's speech, then tells me Mahmoud speaks Arab. I was even trying to take him seriously until then.

Gravitational, they speak Persian in Persia, just saying.

Sorry OP if this seems off topic.I think it is somewhat related due to the direction of the conversation. I will ignore anything he says to me for now on unless it has to do with the topic of your thread.

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed

Originally posted by gravitational
reply to post by Corruption Exposed

 

Al mout el Israel is in Arabic and in Farsi.
Both mean the same – death to Israel.

How is life in la la land ?

Source or you are lying.

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edit to add:
Some words are the same in Arabic, Farsi and Hebrew.
The Iranians even adopted Latin / English words that were missing from their vocabulary.

Grasping at straw much ?

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


People who trust in liars
will spread any bullcrap to convince themself
the best in that ... they think they are patriots in supporting their corrupted leaders
who manipulates the thoughs/mindset of anybody who will give an ear
its easy feeding people with false propaganda when we control the major news channel
they are FAR from patriots and peacefull individual that support democracy

will they realise one day how wrong they were ?
hope so

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
Anyone know if the Canadian delegation walked out? They walked out last time and it pissed me off. Bunch of spoiled brats who throw a fit and take their ball home with them when they can't get their way.

I for one hope they did.

No one should put up with that hateful little man. If we held Canadian prayer rallies where everyone chanted "Death to Iran! Death to Saudi Arabia!", like they do each and every week for the USA and Israel, we would be held as an example of intolerance and hatred. Such a sickening double standard the liberal crowd use.

No one should give this man an audience.

Ahmadinejad is the man. People who walked out are sheeps that think it was terrorists who collapsed WTC. This man knows the truth. You just have to respect this guy.

reply to post by Ben81

will they realise one day how wrong they were ? hope so

I personally think most of them already know they are wrong but won't admit it. I could be mistaken, maybe they actually believe what they are lied to about.

Anyone who blindly defends a certain group or organization no matter what cannot be reasoned with. As I say this there are many things about Iran and Mahmoud I do not agree about. I am not blind with my opinion or bias. I am willing to look at it from both points of view, most of us are.

The fact that all these leaders walked out today, and some of the reasons people are using to defend it certainly raises some questions.

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"No one should put up with that hateful little man."

He and his govt have killed fewer people than the GOP & DNC.. oh, but the DC mafia say nice double think things to justify aggressive wars, occupations and killing innocent people outside courts of law. Enabled by the mentally diseased drunk on patriotism flock.

Who's behavior is more hateful?.. lets say he supposedly did say something about wiping a nation off the map.. just words from some guy, the GOP & DNC actually did just that in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan.. lol

..so him saying it = bad.. GOP & DNC actually doing it.. is good. Doublethink much?

He is just a guy with opinions speaking freely in the land of the free where free speech is supposed to be celebrated... what good little doublethinking 1930s Germans the shadowy overlords have bred.. "Gumba fascists" dumber than a bag of nickles.

reply to post by Meekbot2000


If somehow he was anywhere being close to any truth, there is nothing he or anyone else can do about it.

They can gripe, complain and form theories, but at the end of the day the US in is in a geopolitical position of global superiority that it will not be removed from anytime soon.

In addition, If he really believed any of the propaganda he was spewing, he would realize his actions were suicidal. If the US is really the beast he describes, he would know resistance is totally futile. I personally don't think he actually believes most of what he said. He doesn't act like he really thinks that the US is as big or bad as he makes it out to be. Instead, I would bet his actual beliefs are that the US is weak, indecisive and bankrupt. He's lashing out at a scapegoat that he thinks is falling or fallen from power. That miscalculation could cost him and his nation dearly.

Originally posted by GovtFlu
..so him saying it = bad.. GOP & DNC actually doing it.. is good. Doublethink much?

No idea what you are going on about. Did i ever once say i was a fan of the US administrations? Doublethink? Huh? I hate the US governments too. Pull your head out of your a&@ before you respond next time.

Originally posted by NeoVain
How many other heads of state have you heard openly critisizing the US like he does?

Ahmadinejad is not a head of state, and he's barely a head of government, but who cares. Anyone can openly criticize the US. Many foreign politicians do, when it is consistent with their foreign policy goals (and sometimes when it is not). More in the past than now; when Kruschev got going, he could give a speech that would make Ahmadinejad tremble. Saddam openly criticized--lambasted--the US for over ten years; if he hadn't played I've-got-a-secret with the weapons inspectors, he'd still be doing it now. China has criticized the US's human rights record and financial policy. North Korea ... well, they're North Korea.

Do any of these guys criticize the US exactly like Ahmadinejad? No, because none of them are presidents of countries with the exact relationship the US has with Iran, or the exact constitutional structure that makes the Iranian president something of a sideshow. Iran is unique in those respects.

All i see is a bunch of arse-kissing, glorifying and at most beating around the bush, from everyone except this guy. Not this guy.

Maybe because there's something wrong with this guy. Maybe everyone else is right, and this guy is wrong.

Critisizing the most powerful country in the world so openly, not fearing whatever sanctions and reprisals they may (and most probably will) put forward to your country as a result, now that, in my book, takes alot of balls.

Iran has been fighting a covert war against the US in Iraq and Afghanistan for years, and through its puppets in Hezbollah it has sponsored terrorism against the US and open war against a major US ally. We've responded by sitting on our hands. Do you really think they're afraid of what we'll do if their carnival barker of a president visits the UN and insults us?

Originally posted by Meekbot2000the only other world leader that is as opinionated and blunt as him is Chavez, imo, i enjoy listening to both of them speak,

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Me too, the same way as i enjoy John Cleese and Monty Python.

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I was listening to the BBC on the way home from work today.
There was a BBC reporter in Iran, asking around and listening to what people have to say
on the Iranian President.

It seems he is a much hated man. The people there are not for destroying Israel, they don't want uranium
enrichment, the say he is embarrassing the Iranian people.

They blame him for the hardships that they endure, they don't blame the USA or the UK.
All these people want is there freedom.

The United Nations speech today by Ahmadinejad, was just to try and deflect his growing problems at home.

The Iranian people will be free soon I hope. They are a very nice people.

Sometime it's easy to see only doom and gloom, I know i do sometimes. There is some hope for the middle east though, who knows, we may see some brotherly love breaking out of over there.

First though we need to get rid of Regimes like the Iranians,Syria and Netanyahu.
The people of the Middle East deserve better than what they have right now, I really hope sometime soon they
get what they want.

I also hope that all the countries of the Region are able to set up new governments with out religion being part of
the goverment. Relgion and poilitics must stay seperate.

I was disappointed that CNN quit covering his speech before he was through. Hell, he was just getting wound up.
Ahmadinejad went all the way back to the colonial days in his rants. Personally, I thought he was nuts but he was entertaining.....kind of like watching Pee-Wee Herman.

And the MSM manipulation is happening already, just saw the CNN headline

"Does IRAN has Nuclear Weapons" with a short clip of Ahmadinejad is speaking. of course they do, they have billion sof them and they are all pointed at America, better get troops in there asap

reply to post by Meekbot2000

Ahmadinejad speaking at the UN - Is he going to declare war?

This guy is problematic because he appears cut from the same cloth as so many other fanatics over the years.



Regardless of one's politics on the Israel-Palestine issue, Ahmadinejad strikes the pose of someone who is dangerous to any peace... especially in a region where war is so very near at all times.

Given that Iran should ever obtain nuke technology, and the devices themselves, a major conflagration is almost a given. Even Persia's neighbors understand this and while they may hate the infidel Israel, they fear Iran more.

Of all the world's dangers right now, Ahmadinejad/Iran and Kim/North Korea are the two most likely to succeed.

the speech was another classic. listing the many crimes and hypocrisies of the united states of america.

the best part of the speech was when for a good ten minutes ahmadinejad was listing everything america is guilty of including slavery, invasions of sovereign countries, viet nam , military occupations of over 140 countries around the globe by placing it's military forces on bases and even when he claimed the 9/11 incident was suspect, the american delegation didn't leave its seat. as soon as ahmadinejad mentioned israel and that why after 60 years after the holocaust are european nations still sending money to israel, america walked out.

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Do you really believe that? Deep down inside you, after all the coincidences and dodgy going ons around 9/11...you're telling me deep down that something isn't wrong with that whole situation?

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Unfortunately the truth is the truth no matter where you find it. Sometimes I can't help but wonder if in fact he's in the CIA's pocket too. It is well established that they have had their hands in Irans politics for decades. They need a nut in the wings for their Military industrial complex to even exist.

reply to post by LightAssassin


Ya...a lot of mistakes were made...by those in power in the U.S.....they were too confident in thinking...it wouldn't ever happen to us.

LMAO!!!!! Declare war? On who? How? This si some funny stuff!!!

Originally posted by Meekbot2000
His speach is very anti-american and in a very aggeressive tone,

It is live on CCN right now if anoyone else is watching it


accusing america of starting wars in the korean pennisula

- staging 9-11 as an excuse to attack afghanistan and iraq

people are walking out

accused us of war mongering and trying to control the world for its own financial gain

US were the slavemasters who triggered world wars 1 and 2