Why does world hates Israel?

reply to post by bhornbuckle75


I stopped watching at the part where the guy utters the words "every time a baby is born, they kill it".

Really? You buy into this?


*cough* Pallywood *cough*



Regards, Skellon.

reply to post by backinblack


Boring because it does not suit your argument against Israel?


Regards, Skellon.

Originally posted by backinblack

Originally posted by halfoldman
reply to post by backinblack

 

Maybe it's boring when the "others" aren't on your doorstep.

edit on 21-9-2011 by halfoldman because: (no reason given)

Well that would be hard for Israel to see..

Their "Doorstep" keeps moving into more and more Palestinian land.

Amazing really, considering there are no such people as the Palestinians. The people you choose to defend originated from the surrounding Arab countries, none of which, desire to have them return. It was only after the Jews sought to settle in the land known as Palestine and invested money to create jobs, that the people who you refer to as Palestinians, flooded into the country from their Arab home lands.

They are a powerful political tool that is utilised to apply pressure to Israel and attempt to erode support for the Jewish state over time. It has been fairly successful. The words of yourself and others confirm this.

Regards, Skellon.

I don't hate Israel, though I have my grumbles against them. (besides, I thought the current "most hated" country was the US?)

To just sort of sum it up in an image, they remind of the kids in high school who had secret beliefs that they were extraordinary in some way, but afraid of being proven wrong, remain introverted, passive, and keeping their visions of superiority to themselves (or only shared with their best friend over a whole box of cookies in front of the computer.)

As part of their grandiose potential, they believe all those extroverted popular kids out there are inferior to them. They project arrogance and rejection at them, rudely throw balls into the middle of their group, and make snide grimaces at them.

When those other kids reflect that same rejection back, they scream victim! I'm being bullied! The bad popular kids are bullying me for no reason! I was just sitting here minding my own business, and they suddenly called me a name!

I was not in either group at the time, but I watched this go on all the time.
And it STILL makes me roll my eyes!

reply to post by Bluesma

What about the people who almost daily fired rockets into Israel, and they also daily perform the victim role?

In fact they call themselves Israel an "apartheid state", when the last I heard Israel actually has Arabs in its government.

Just wondering.

reply to post by halfoldman


Didn't say they are the ONLY ones like that!

But heck, you know.....as in the case of the US boohooing that everyone hates them (which isn't even true, but it is the same victimization cry..)

If you actually hold a belief that you are superior to all other humans
Whether you actually proclaim it outloud or not,
Everyone else can tell
And it makes them object.
To bring your feet back down to earth where the rest of us are.

reply to post by Bluesma

Yeah, maybe.
It is a complex situation perhaps.
But if anything in this clip is true, then I wonder if some people have their head in the clouds, as much as others might not have their feet on the ground.

This clip purports to show the similarities between Nazi and radical Islamic anti-Jewish propaganda.
Now when one sees an uncritical pro-Hamas faction in SA that not only endorses this, but seemingly is beginning some of these tactics here, I may lose some objectivity.

This has some movie violence, and it also shouldn't encourage Islamophobia on the other other hand (I'm sure there's propaganda both ways), but if some people are exposed to such material as described here, it could be relevant to the OP's question.

Originally posted by Skellon
reply to post by backinblack

 

Boring because it does not suit your argument against Israel?


Regards, Skellon.

Nah, boring because it's always the same BS excuses and whinges..

Why not just admit that what Israel does is wrong and deal with it.??

And really, I don't give a flying frig what YOU wish to call the people Israel are kicking off THEIR land..
It another "boring" irrelevant argument.

reply to post by halfoldman


This is the same thing you find in any peoples that hate another peoples.

It seems perfectly expected that peoples who hold a deep belief that they are superior and blessed by God will find themselves face to face in opposition with other peoples who have exactly the same belief !

In some cases, the belief is proclaimed and acknowledged openly, as with the Nazi’s, with the Americans, and with Islam.....so we don’t question as much why others are clashing with them, it is obvious. The Jewish tend to keep it quieter and acknowledge it only amongst themselves. So.... they think they shall avoid being opposed by other populations who believe THEY are the chosen of the Almighty Power (whatever name they call it).

But that doesn’t avoid it from happening. Passive aggressivity still pisses people off, and you end up with conflict. You cannot avoid your reflection in this world and you cannot avoid the reality you have created with your belief !

If you believe that martyrism is an integral part of being Gods chosen,
So you shall be martyred.

Self sacrifice for country, or God, (or both as one) is what you hold dear and valuable ?
Then so you shall do.

You believe all other peoples are evil? Or that a certain group of people are evil?
So they shall be, at least in the way they act towards you.

This is not even (in my opinion) any sort of fate or destiny controlled or directed by anyone else, or by God.
It is simply the result of our own power to influence the world to react to us as we expect it to, for better or for worse. Whether we consciously and deliberately acknowledge our expectations, or keep them our little secret, our subtle communications get them out there anyway.

You proclaim what things are and the universe says, "Okay."

reply to post by Paulioetc15


I strongly oppose the whole idea of Israel/Zionism. If you read the Old Testament/Torah you will learn that this land did not originally belong to the Jews. They LITERALLY migrated there and killed anyone and everyone until they were able to settle in what is now modern day Israel. May I remind you that this country was manufactured by the United States after WW2. Before that, Israel (as a country) did not exist. Furthermore, if this is 'their land' then they should be able to fend for it by themselves, right?

reply to post by nusnus



the sad thing is that the jewish bankers that control the world are the ones that payed for the holocaust so that the jews would be forced to populate the palestine area......you can't tell them that though, they would never believe that one of theirs would ever sacrifice the jewish people to create a jewish state.......

Originally posted by Skellon

Originally posted by backinblack

Originally posted by halfoldman
reply to post by backinblack

 

Maybe it's boring when the "others" aren't on your doorstep.

edit on 21-9-2011 by halfoldman because: (no reason given)

Well that would be hard for Israel to see..

Their "Doorstep" keeps moving into more and more Palestinian land.

Amazing really, considering there are no such people as the Palestinians. The people you choose to defend originated from the surrounding Arab countries, none of which, desire to have them return. It was only after the Jews sought to settle in the land known as Palestine and invested money to create jobs, that the people who you refer to as Palestinians, flooded into the country from their Arab home lands.

They are a powerful political tool that is utilised to apply pressure to Israel and attempt to erode support for the Jewish state over time. It has been fairly successful. The words of yourself and others confirm this.

Regards, Skellon.

edit on 21-9-2011 by Skellon because: (no reason given)

would you like to show some proof of your accusations? until you do i have to call BS...sorry, if you really wanna know what happened then you should listen to benjamin freedman he'll shed some light on why people don't like israel...he was actuall there when it all happened.....and he was jewish no less......

Why does world hates Israel?

It's pretty hard to like a government who overtly commits war crimes and crimes against humanity and then turn around and blame the people they oppress for taking up arms and trying to defend themselves and blame them for causing the fighting in the first place...

It's hard to like a government who expropriates people, burn their crops, pay people to settle on their land, build borders that advance every few months, create embargos on basic necessities and then refuse to help sick people by denying them entry past the borders...

It's hard to like a government who gives orders to shoot people who are working near the borders for no reason, who cut off water supplies, electricity (by cutting diesel supplies), food, and other things just because they "fear for their safety"...

It's hard to like a government who bases all their international policy on the idea that they are "god's chosen people" and that anybody who speaks out, or contradicts their words are anti-semetic... and that they can do what they want, to whoever they want, whenever they want even if the international community doesn't approve, or even condemns them for their actions... (if you ask me, they sound like a schizophrenic, fascist, nazi-like, state)...

Finally, it's hard to like a regime. Yes I said it, israel is lead by a regime.

Hope this helps....

Originally posted by bhornbuckle75
reply to post by Paulioetc15

 

Seriously you don't know?....well OK, how about
you watch this...

It's just part one, but you can find the other parts on Youtube........

and if you need any more info just Google Israeli atrocities and you should find dozens of sites that will inform you why

edit on 21-9-2011 by bhornbuckle75 because: fixed video

Seriously ???
You bring a known pallywood style HOAX movie here?
Are you that desperate ?


The 'Jenin Massacre' hoax

townhall.com...

Jenin Jenin Film-Maker Admits Fraud

archive.frontpagemag.com...

The Big Jenin Lie
The only good thing about the Jenin "massacre" was watching the propaganda being debunked in record time.

www.weeklystandard.com...

What does Srebrenihoax, Deir Yassin, Jenin, and Operation Cast Lead have in common

nopalesterrorist.patriotactionnetwork.com...

PLO Propaganda Film "Jenin, Jenin"

www.analyst-network.com...

reply to post by gravitational


really good film btw, i think that the Jewish actions need to be taken i mean why do hamas kept on bombing Israel for?

Originally posted by Paulioetc15
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really good film btw, i think that the Jewish actions need to be taken i mean why do hamas kept on bombing Israel for?

Because Israel keep bombing them while blockaded in a cage and then they steal their land??

reply to post by Paulioetc15


Speak for yourself, don't think you can speak for "the world".

/delete thread

The world doesn't hate Israel.


Israel HATES the World. Didn't you watch Netyanyahu's speech at the UN? Israel is a JEWISH State.


The only racist religion on planet Earth where only full blooded bloodlines can join is....Jewism.

It's a racist religion.

They consider themselves above all other humans on this planet. They even got Christians to start praying to a false prophet. The old texts said the deity ordered to be called YHWH. Who do Christians pray to? ""God"". Well who is ""God""?

1610 King James was faced with some money problems and he created the new English word "GOD", and told everyone to pray to that deity.

GAD is a Semitic Deity of Fortune. It worked for King James. He got money and power. This is the 401st Anniversary of Christians praying to a false deity. Ole YHWH's going to be pee'd off.

reply to post by Paulioetc15

Why does world hates Israel?

For the same reason that the world hates ANY arrogant, powerful regime that brutalizes a helpless population.
And as history teaches, these "arrogant, powerful regimes" will someday end up in the dustbin of history.