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Am i the only one who supports Israel

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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 04:59 AM
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reply to post by Immune
 


The Jews are always getting used and abused, this time by The House of Rothschild who have scammed them to live in their country.

The country belongs to Rothschild (Bankers). This is not about Jews, the Rothschild could have scammed any race into living there; Jews were just a convenient option



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:02 AM
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I wish them all truly to know peace and security, so that the children can start a new generation with out tears and walls.

Just my 2 cents



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:03 AM
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May 1948 Israel was formed


1.Was it created by God or just UK formed it.

2.How do you deny that Zionist Lobby in USA ?

3.Is America fed by Zionists or something that they have to back them ?

4. Who is behind Israel . I mean plainly they are not Jews. They kind of Freemason or Illuminati ? They believe in ancient idols in Egypt.

Source : vigilantcitizen.com...

5.Palestinians are being killed every day and they are fighting an unfair fight. They fight by stones and they are replied by guns. (You better other sources of news than MSM)

6. Based on history facts :
Hitler was a mason ==> A Zionist , killing Jews ==> it may seem logical and humanistic to give a piece of land to Jews ==> they gave a piece of land to Zionists. ==> Jews were oppressed once more( as prophet Muses had cursed them)

7. Facts from Quran :

83-97 Al-Baghrah

AND WHEN WE MADE A COVENANT WITH THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, (TO THIS EFFECT WORSHIP NONE BUT ALLAH, AND DO GOOD TO YOUR PARENTS, AND KINDRED, AND ORPHANS, AND TO THE NEEDY, AND SPEAK FAIRLY TO PEOPLE, AND PERFORM THE PRAYER, AND PAY THE ALMS-TAX. THEN YOU ALL TURNED BACK EXCEPT A FEW OF YOU AND YOU BACKSLIDE. (EVEN NOW)

AND WHEN WE MADE A COVENANT WITH YOU: (TO THIS EFFECT) DO NOT SHED YOUR BLOOD, NEITHER EXPEL YOURSELVES FROM YOUR HABITATIONS YOU CONFIRMED IT, AND YOU BEAR WITNESS. (TO THIS COVENANT)

THEN THERE YOU ARE KILLING ONE ANOTHER, AND BANISH A PARTY OF YOU FROM THEIR HOME, BACKING EACH OTHER UP AGAINST THEM IN SIN AND ENMITY, AND IF THEY COME TO YOU AS CAPTIVES, YOU RANSOM THEM, WHILE THEIR EXPULSION WAS UNLAWFUL FOR YOU. DO YOU THEN BELIEVE IN PART OF THE BOOK AND DISBELIEVE IN PART? WHAT THEN IS THE REWARD OF THOSE OF YOU WHO DO THAT, EXCEPT DISGRACE IN THIS LIFE, AND ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT THEY SHALL BE CONSIGNED TO THE MOST GRIEVOUS PENALTY, AND ALLAH IS NOT NEGLIGENT OF WHAT YOU DO.

THOSE ARE THEY WHO HAVE PURCHASED THE PRESENT LIFE AT THE PRICE OF THE LIFE TO COME. THEIR PENALTY SHALL NOT BE LIGHTENED, NOR SHALL THEY BE HELPED.

AND WE GAVE MOSES THE BOOK AND FOLLOWED HIM UP WITH A SUCCESSION OF MESSENGERS. AND WE GAVE JESUS SON OF MARY CLEAR EVIDENCES, AND STRENGTHENED HIM WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT. AND WHENSOEVER THERE CAME TO YOU A MESSENGER WITH WHAT, NOT AGREEABLE WITH YOUR DESIRES, YOU PUFFED UP WITH PRIDE - THEN SOME OF THEM YOU BELIED, AND SOME OTHERS YOU SLAYED!

AND THEY SAID: ``OUR HEARTS ARE COVERED.'' RATHER ALLAH HAS CURSED THEM FOR THEIR BLASPHEMY. LITTLE IS WHAT THEY BELIEVE.

WHEN THERE CAME TO THEM A BOOK FROM ALLAH, CONFIRMING WHAT WAS WITH THEM, AND AFORETIMES THEY PRAYED FOR VICTORY OVER THE UNBELIEVERS, AND WHEN THERE CAME TO THEM THAT WHICH THEY RECOGNIZED (QURÄN AND THE PROPHET) THEY DISBELIEVED IT. THEN THE CURSE OF ALLAH IS UPON THE UNBELIEVERS.

EVIL IS THAT FOR WHICH THEY HAVE SOLD THEIR SOULS - THAT THEY SHOULD DENY WHAT ALLAH HAS REVEALED, OBJECTING THAT ALLAH SHOULD SEND DOWN OF HIS GRACE TO ANY OF HIS SERVANTS THAT HE WILLS. THUS THEY HAVE DRAWN ON THEMSELVES THE WRATH OF ALLAH ONE AFTER THE OTHER, (WRATH UPON WRATH) AND FOR THE UNBELIEVERS AWAIT HUMILIATING CHASTISEMENT.

AND WHEN IT IS SAID TO THEM BELIEVE IN WHAT ALLAH HAS SENT DOWN; THEY SAY WE BELIEVE ONLY IN THAT WHICH WAS SENT TO US; AND THEY REJECT WHAT IS BESIDES THAT, WHILE IT IS THE TRUTH; AND CORROBORATING THAT WHICH IS WITH THEM. SAY: ``WHY DID YOU THEN SLAY THE PROPHETS OF ALLAH, IN TIMES GONE BY IF YOU WERE BELIEVERS?''

AND THERE CAME TO YOU MOSES WITH CLEAR SIGNS (EVIDENCES), THEN YOU TOOK THE CALF (FOR A GOD) IN HIS ABSENCE, AND YOU WERE OPPRESSORS.

AND WHEN WE MADE A COVENANT WITH YOU, AND WE RAISED ABOVE YOU THE MOUNT SINAI, SAYING: ``HOLD FIRMLY WHAT WE HAVE GIVEN YOU AND HEAR. (OUR COMMANDMENTS) THEY SAID: WE HEARD AND WE DISOBEYED, FOR THEIR BLASPHEMY THEY DRANK THE CALF INTO THEIR VERY HEARTS! (i.e. THEY LOVED THE CALF WITH ALL THEIR HEART) SAY: ``BAD IS THAT TO WHICH YOUR FAITH ORDERS YOU, IF YOU ARE INDEED BELIEVERS.''

SAY: IF THE LAST ABODE WITH ALLAH (AS YOU CLAIM) IS YOURS ALONE, AND NOT FOR OTHER PEOPLE, THEN WISH FOR DEATH IF YOU ARE TRUTHFUL.

BUT THEY WILL NEVER DESIRE IT, BECAUSE OF WHAT THEIR HANDS HAVE FORWARDED; AND ALLAH KNOWS WELL THE OPPRESSORS.

AND YOU WILL INDEED FIND THEM THE GREEDIEST PEOPLE FOR LIFE. (FOR THIS MORTAL LIFE AND ITS WEALTH) EVEN MORE THAN THE POLYTHEISTS. EACH OF THEM LOVES TO LIVE A THOUSAND YEARS, AND THAT (LONG LIFE) WILL NOT SAVE THEM FROM THE CHASTISEMENT, AND ALLAH SEES WELL ALL THAT THEY DO.

SAY WHOEVER IS AN ENEMY TO GABRIEL, THEN IT IS HIM WHO BROUGHT IT DOWN UPON YOUR HEART BY ALLAH'S PERMISSION; CORROBORATING WHAT WAS BEFORE IT, AND GUIDANCE, AND GLAD TIDINGS FOR THE BELIEVERS.

 


How do you ignore these facts ?

Or may be you chose the facts to believe ?
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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:07 AM
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Originally posted by Haxsaw
Look how the ignorant OP calls the Palestinians "terrorists" and acts as if everything Israel has done is in retaliation or out of protection. I think the OP needs to go and research Israeli false falg operations like 'the lavon affair' and the 'USS Liberty' just to name a couple.

I wonder how the OP would like having his land stolen, his house blown up, his family killed, and then to be called a terrorist if he even thinks of fighting back?

Heres just one of the many more reminders for the blind OP of how Israel came about; an Israeli terrorist by the name of Menachem Begin planned the destruction of the King David Hotel and the massacre of Deir Yassin(go and do some research OP, your blindness is sickening, zionists and their sympathizers have a disease).



The OP also needs to research 'jews against zionism' and ask himself why there are many jews who are against zionism and the illegal state of Israel.

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Don't forget about Jonathan Pollard. He's the traitor that spied on the US for Israel. He gave them the names of our undercover agents in eastern Europe which they turned around and sold to Russia. This resulted in the deaths of many of our agents. Also the Lavon Affair where Israel attempted to kill Americans to try to get us to go to war with Egypt.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:10 AM
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If that was true, why doesn't Israel flatten Gaza and the West Bank and be done with it?

Why? Because Israel is not interested in slaughtering civilians, despite what the 'misery sells' MSM and the Arabs wish you to believe.

The great nation of the United States of America has a far worst record of killing civilians in conflicts, yet most still view them as 'great'.

Why don't you give North America back to the Natives?

When you are championing that old flake R.Paul into office next year, consider that.


Regards, Skellon.
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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:11 AM
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Wow your sir are dubed king doosh for a day, wow seriously wow im just, not sure if its laughing or dry heaving wow, but hey thanks for sharing your point of view, just wow



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:13 AM
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Does the truth sting a little?

Merely stating facts.


In addition, I did not resort to name calling, though you have and you were not part of the argument.



Regards, Skellon
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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:17 AM
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The great nation of the United States of America has a far worst record of killing civilians in conflicts, yet most still view them as 'great'.


I am very eager to be informed about it.

IMO : Natives were killed in North America so , this new order took place. (America was formed by UK). UK was controlling the whole situation. And there was a fake war for independence . UK was sure about the future of America , so she leaved America.

This is what is exactly happening in Palestine.

What is your idea ?
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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:17 AM
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dude your a bad joke that wont go away lol, but hey GIT HER DONE



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:17 AM
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I'm afraid people on this site are to well educated about the Palestine issue to blindly play Isreal's lap dog.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:18 AM
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why do simple words affect you, cause its the truth and it hurts muhahahaah



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:19 AM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave
reply to post by Immune
 


There are Americans at their wits end now with poverty and joblessness, yet we hand Israel billions and put ourselves at risk by protecting them because they don't know how to make peace with their neighbors and they want to run an apartheid state.

Israel can kiss my ass, sorry. We need to worry about each other here in America.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:19 AM
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Oh and sorry what facts really, that israel only kills terrorist i was missing your point



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by dukeofjive
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Oh and sorry what facts really, that Israel only kills terrorist i was missing your point


Of course they are killing terrorists while you are having your cop of coffee behind your PC.

They are security providers for you and you are just so lazy to stand up and seek the truth.

Have fun. it's your time.

And you are the selected people for these blessings. Because god loves you and you have done great for him. You are the people of hard work.

But wait , you are being bankrupt by the people who are fighting terrorists.
 

I am so amazed of how ignorant one can be.
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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:26 AM
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i suggest you watch the documentary occupation 101,
this was lifechanging for me, being a young arab myself without knowing any of this is crazy

view a war from both sides, you already know the israeli point of view, how about viewing the point of the palestinians, the ones they call terrorists




posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:27 AM
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Originally posted by Skellon
reply to post by buster2010
 


If that was true, why doesn't Israel flatten Gaza and the West Bank and be done with it?

Why? Because Israel is not interested in slaughtering civilians, despite what the 'misery sells' MSM and the Arabs wish you to believe.

The great nation of the United States of America has a far worst record of killing civilians in conflicts, yet most still view them as 'great'.

Why don't you give North America back to the Natives?

When you are championing that old flake R.Paul into office next year, consider that.


Regards, Skellon.
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Israel has no interest in killing civilians? Tell that to the people they drop white phosphorous on everyone knows how accurate that weapon is. Or how about Israel engaging in ethnic cleansing America dirties itself more each day when we support these terrorist. And the hand the land back to the natives argument? I am a native how am I going to give land back to myself? RP is an Old flake? So which young sell out corporatist punk are you supporting? Left or right matters not because they are only in it for the money.
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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:32 AM
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a: they are brain washed by MSM.They think that killing those people is good for themselves.

b: Why they don't claim that ?

a: Because they know that everyone would laugh at them



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:34 AM
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Do you not see how you are essentially, distancing yourself from the near genocidal acts of the forefathers, by blaming the atrocities solely on the British?

The relevance to this argument is valid; To the victor, go the spoils.

What was once a near genocidal act of epic proportions is now all but forgotten, however, the latest generations of the very same culprits exercise this new-found sense of morality when judging the acts of Israel.

How many Iraqi civilians have lost their lives for the sake of US strategic positioning and the aquisition of oil contracts?

How many Afghan civilians have lost their lives to ensure the CIA drug money continues to flow?

It suits the US for Western media to work with the Arabs to spin propaganda against Israel two-fold;

1. It allows us to view a right hand whilst the left hand commits further sin.

2. It gives the impression that the US is not always shoulder to shoulder with Israel, which is benefitial in the public opinion polls. The United Kingdom also enjoys this deception.


Regards, Skellon.
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posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:39 AM
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Some families remained Jewish ofcourse.


And they remained because they knew that they are the chosen ones.

Jews were living in Mecca at the time Muhammad was born. They were threatening other people " don't mess with us. If our new Jew prophet come , we will take a hard revenge on you"

As a matter of fact the new prophet arrived and he wasn't a Jew(his father wasn't Jew and so himself). So they started bothering him and making wars with him.

I think that you know about how they treated Marry and Jesus.

They are the selected ones.



posted on Sep, 21 2011 @ 05:43 AM
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So know i get it, cause somebody killed somebody some where at some time, its ok for people to get killed, WOW great facts




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