Occupy Wall St. Video of violent arrests today 9/20

reply to post by ldyserenity


what the hell is that supposed to mean?
you got me going now. this isn't going to be pretty.

reply to post by undo


Did you listen to the lyrics? Just that part 00:52 to about 00:61 maybe. It was supposed to be funny...listen to the lyrics you'll understand.
ETA:
Was speaking of this section:

N****** wanna try, n**** wanna lie
Then n******* wonder why, n****** wanna die

DMX ruff ryders anthem
Those are the lines I was referring to.

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reply to post by ldyserenity


i found it offensive. i'm not a racist. but i am against racists, particularly ones that try to pin the blame on me or anyone i know or anyone of my race or anyone of another race, for crap they didn't do. it's not black people's fault that some blacks are racists. and i'm not going to take the blame for racist white people either. they can stick it where the sun don't shine and spin around on it, for all i care.

Originally posted by UniverSoul
reply to post by Swills

 

violence is the answer when it comes to ridding the world of the tyrany that controls it, becaus we all know tptb wont actually listen to peacefull protests. nothing good will come from it apart from raising awarness
we must fight
or we are going to loose our freedoms very soon

edit on 20-9-2011 by UniverSoul because: (no reason given)

I disagree because throughout history that has proven to not work, violence begets violence.

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" Mahatma Gandhi

reply to post by undo


It's by a black group DMX it was supposed to be funny lighten the mood...it isnt offensive it's their art:
DMX
His pic is on the left of the article.

the next person that tries to blame me for crap i didn' t do, is gonna get an earful, that's all i gots to say on that subject.

reply to post by AboveSpirit


thank you for being another voice of reason. not only does that level of violence suck, it doesn't solve anything and resolves down into people 400 years later, accusing you of doing your ancestors deeds STOP IT ALREADY.

reply to post by UniverSoul

Originally posted by undo
the next person that tries to blame me for crap i didn' t do, is gonna get an earful, that's all i gots to say on that subject.

Ok people,
I have been listening to everyone in regards to their opinion on how to make change in the world we live in.
Obviously like most things everyone is different, but I believe we can use this to our advantage.
Please take the time to read this plan.. (Obviously it is open to suggestions but let’s not stray from the point and try not to get angry at each other because I’m sure they would prefer us fighting ourselves not them)

Firstly I think we need to agree on something. Can we not agree that our current system of government, authority and control is not working for the good of the people? We know that things are not heading for a good place, and eventually people are going to be broke with our current system of an economy.

Peaceful protest like the one we have seen in time square in not far of the mark, and i assume the majority of our freedom fighters are going to be doing this and they are helping make up the voice.
We need to camp out in the centre of as many cities as possible around the world.
If we can get a few thousand people in each city this can easily work.

Violence will only be tolerated if it is used on the freedom fighters first. The authorities have just as much right to use it as you do.

The main part of this exercise is to stop people buying products, paying taxes and supporting big business.
By doing this we can chop the economic head of the rich people that are enslaving us.
But we have to expect when we don’t pay taxes the government is going to try and stop us, so it is important that we have at least 1000 people in each city who are willing to fight and die if it is in self defence.
Remember just because the government says so doesn’t give authority the right to do anything to you.
The government is just a criminal organisation that has stood for a long time (so it seems normal), has more money and more people.
But reality is we can start our own government because we have even more people. One that seeks to treat everyone equal and this cannot happen when we live in a class system divided by money.

Food would be taken from shops if needed but hopefully we can get the support of farmers (another group of people being screwed by the system in place) who will bring supplies to keep freedom fighters alive. It would also be helpful to have people growing their own food in the city and everyone would need to help feed others, not just themselves

Weapons are not to much of an issue. Many people own guns but effective weapons can be easily made if people work together. Remember keep it simple:
-bows and arrows, cheap and effective.
-smoke bombs can be easily made.
-spears
-rocks
-Molotov cocktails
-small bombs (grenades)
-armour can be made from hard metals and used like in ancient times..huddle together and work as a group so some can hold the armour and others can attack
-pepper spray can be made from hot chillies and alcohol in a simple spray bottle
-swords and knives obviously
-we could easily get horses (although I don’t condone using animals it is a possibility)
-tazers can be easily made from batteries
But remember its not the weapon its the way you use it. And if we have the numbers we can damn well do it with a stick!

The point of this revolution is simple
1. Stop funding and supporting the economy, cut it off and watch the rich people fall to our demands. Remember money is worthless is we the people don’t use it. We can easily work together and provide for ourselves.
2. Defend if needed. Violence is not the answer but if they intent to use it then we must to. Nothing will happen unless we can stand up for ourselves.
3. Bring in a new system of society where people work together in small communities. Providing for themselves and helping others.

People I understand that some of you think that violence is not the answer. But in our situation it is used on us everyday, and it is the way tptb choose to enforce their system of society. Violence is not part of this plan unless it is used on us first. The main part of this plan is to band together and stop funding the economy that has kept us down for too long.
I ask you not to post any deconstructive comments such as ‘violence is not going to work’ unless you have a better solution. I’m not saying its right but I am saying it is most likely necessary if we are to stand up for our rights. Because we will see that if this happens, they will most likely try and stop us violently.
Why support a system that Is willing to violently stop its own people from expressing their disgust over the obvious problems in our society.
That is not a government, that is not a proper system. That is hate and control.



“Poverty is the parents of revolution and crime.” – Aristotle
“Violence is the weapon of weak, non-violence that of the strong. “- Mahatma Gandhi….. We

^ look at that. he's telling us how to more effectively kill one another.

un-freakin-believable.

Originally posted by undo
^ look at that. he's telling us how to more effectively kill one another.

un-freakin-believable.

haha your an ideeeota mate
im saying that we only use violence if it is used on us. thats defence
if you can think of a better way to change the world please tell me

By doing this we can chop the economic head of the rich people that are enslaving us.

no, the people above the rich people, ya know the ones who play games with real lives, those people, who are so rich, money means nothing and it's all about the power to # people up? they already have a contingency plan in place in the event we don't kill each other first. they'll nuke the place, blame it on some other hapless nation/people, then have their propagandists claim we had it coming, and we were really the whore of babylon so it fulfilled God's will.

seriously, i ain't buying dude.

Originally posted by UniverSoul

Originally posted by undo
^ look at that. he's telling us how to more effectively kill one another.

un-freakin-believable.

haha your an ideeeota mate
im saying that we only use violence if it is used on us. thats defence
if you can think of a better way to change the world please tell me

ah yes, the standard argument when you don't have one. attack the person not the message. i'm not your mate. i have a mate already.

Originally posted by UniverSoul

Originally posted by undo
^ look at that. he's telling us how to more effectively kill one another.

un-freakin-believable.

haha your an ideeeota mate
im saying that we only use violence if it is used on us. thats defence
if you can think of a better way to change the world please tell me

I cannot tell if you are advocating the overthrow of capitalism, or rewriting the Consitution, or if you are telling people what to do if the shtf and we are all reduced to scrabbling around for a shred of food?
In the case of overthrow of capitalism, I do not advocate. In the case of SHtF anything can happen. If you are advocating changing the Constitution....I cannot say what I think. If you are for restoring Liberty and giving the boot to evil crooks and pathological liars I'm listening, but only if it's not socialism.
By the way, I'm still waiting on that list of demands the protesters said they were going to make to give to Wall Street. Did they do that?

Originally posted by undo

By doing this we can chop the economic head of the rich people that are enslaving us.

no, the people above the rich people, ya know the ones who play games with real lives, those people, who are so rich, money means nothing and it's all about the power to # people up? they already have a contingency plan in place in the event we don't kill each other first. they'll nuke the place, blame it on some other hapless nation/people, then have their propagandists claim we had it coming, and we were really the whore of babylon so it fulfilled God's will.

seriously, i ain't buying dude.

yes but these peoples power is gained by money. if we dont use money they have no power..its simple
it turns money into a worthless piece of paper

Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by UniverSoul

Originally posted by undo
^ look at that. he's telling us how to more effectively kill one another.

un-freakin-believable.

haha your an ideeeota mate
im saying that we only use violence if it is used on us. thats defence
if you can think of a better way to change the world please tell me

ah yes, the standard argument when you don't have one. attack the person not the message. i'm not your mate. i have a mate already.

my argument is listed above i dont need to say it again
ok tell him hi for me

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by UniverSoul

Originally posted by undo
^ look at that. he's telling us how to more effectively kill one another.

un-freakin-believable.

haha your an ideeeota mate
im saying that we only use violence if it is used on us. thats defence
if you can think of a better way to change the world please tell me

I cannot tell if you are advocating the overthrow of capitalism, or rewriting the Consitution, or if you are telling people what to do if the shtf and we are all reduced to scrabbling around for a shred of food?
In the case of overthrow of capitalism, I do not advocate. In the case of SHtF anything can happen. If you are advocating changing the Constitution....I cannot say what I think. If you are for restoring Liberty and giving the boot to evil crooks and pathological liars I'm listening, but only if it's not socialism.
By the way, I'm sitll waiting on that list of demands the protesters said they were going to make to give to Wall Street. Did they do that?

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edit on 21-9-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)

i am saying lets change things BEFORE shtf
yes 'giving the boot to evil crooks' you said it
money is worthless if we stop worshiping it
we can unite
and it doesnt have to be violent, unless they attack first
we can change the world simply by abandoning money and all that comes with it. ie taxes bills etc

I say throw a funeral for America and be done with it...this union is dead...Union...definition is to unite, many people coming together, We are divided moreso then ever before in this era. We are a dead nation and China is going to kick our carcass as it rots in the sun.

Originally posted by UniverSoul

Originally posted by undo

By doing this we can chop the economic head of the rich people that are enslaving us.

no, the people above the rich people, ya know the ones who play games with real lives, those people, who are so rich, money means nothing and it's all about the power to # people up? they already have a contingency plan in place in the event we don't kill each other first. they'll nuke the place, blame it on some other hapless nation/people, then have their propagandists claim we had it coming, and we were really the whore of babylon so it fulfilled God's will.

seriously, i ain't buying dude.

yes but these peoples power is gained by money. if we dont use money they have no power..its simple
it turns money into a worthless piece of paper

edit on 21-9-2011 by UniverSoul because: (no reason given)

bull puckey. they have control of all the media outlets. we are the victims of a hostile takeover, and now, they are trying to encourage us to kill one another, so they don't have to. but if we don't, there's always the fall back plan. when i say these people are evil, i ain't kidding. this is not a game. and i don't mean everyone in office either. they are good people scattered amongst all members of government, in every country, but they are not in control atm and its because they aren't evil that they aren't in control.

if we erupt into hostilities, and alot of white people die, they'll use that like the blacks have been using slavery from 200 years ago, to embarrass the black people as a whole into feeling racial guilt, but only after enough of us are dead. ya know... social engineering at its finest. then they'll have nice little records to share amongst themselves of what happens when the sheep are corralled into a corner, given weapons and starved to death. if they are peaceful and just die peacefully, well, they can't have that. lol we're supposed to be a country of gun toting, violent low life scum sucking idiots. well that is, till they need us to do something for them. but those days are quickly ending.

man people are gonna be so shocked at how they were gradually lead into this entire scenario by their nose hairs and didn't even realize it.

reply to post by UniverSoul


I read once that Sagittarians have a way of making merry and throwing you up high in the air in all the fun, but they forget to catch you afterwards. You remind me of that. What happens when no one is using money and no one buys stuff anymore? Do we all just live off farms again and work the land to the bone like the pioneers? Do we build cabins in Montana? Bathe in Yellowstone river till it looks like the Ganges at the Millenium festival(I actually was there for that and I think I saw Sharon Stone with her bodyguards)? Do we build fires to keep warm like our ancestors did in the caves?
Also, what gives you the right to take food from shops? That sounds like pure anarchy and looting. Katrina style. It also reminds me of a book I just read, Pulitzer price winner called The Road and was made into a movie. But really it was the end of civilization.