It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Would communism or a bad socio-economic system?
page: 10
share:
Originally posted by sakoy
Would communism or a bad socio-economic system? and why
yes communism would work better than the sysytem we have today
not sure what your asking tho
Originally posted by UniverSoul
Originally posted by sakoy
Would communism or a bad socio-economic system? and why
yes communism would work better than the sysytem we have today
not sure what your asking tho
Why not ask the "soviets"; or the Cambodians; Oh wait; that was rude. You can't. The soviets system collapsed and the educated people of Cambodia were killed by the young khmer rouge fighters in the"killing fields"..
I refuse to re fight a topic that has been done here many times by people more educated than I.
"Communism" looks great on paper and is a wonderful topic for debate in freshman poli -sci; but does not take into account human nature ( greed;selfishness; corruption).
Debate aside:The real world result is: a totalitarian centrally planned system; where the top party officials and politburo members are treated like royalty with lip service paid to the usually cold, hungry masses they rule over with the iron fist of a closed society.
Cue the armchair debaters:" Well; that's not real "communism"...
Save your semantic word games for the professor. I' saw east Berlin after the wall came down. People don't escape the West to sneak into communist countries.They do try to escape communist societies;and are usually killed for their attempt.
I AM unabashedly biased ; I helped keep SAC B-52 bombers cocked and ready while they stood alert: during the "ground alert" years.
I worked on the Boeing agm- 69a SRAM nuclear (short range attack missile) system from '78-'82.
My shop chief built "conventional gravity bombs". for the Infamous ARCLIGHT B-52 strikes during Viet nam.
"They" were and still are "the enemy".
That history (east/west Berlin; the "iron curtain" and viet nam)Is not too far in the distant past to remember.
Added: Brutal Oppression aside: would you want to work for Walmart 7days a week for $1.00 a day/ a free bunk in a concrete dormitory / free access to a company cafeteria twice a day?
No you probably wouldn't.
But that's "communism" your basic needs are supposedly taken care of by "big brother"(if the bureaucracy doesn't screw up the "planning"). You are involuntarily submitted to be an asset of the state. You own nothing.You control nothing.You decide nothing. You can't leave.
editby]edit on 19-9-2011 by 46ACE because: (no reason given)
edit on 19-9-2011 by 46ACE because: paragraph added
edit
on 19-9-2011 by 46ACE because: (no reason given)
edit on 19-9-2011 by 46ACE because: (no reason given)
No. Communism has demonstrated time and time again that it's a failure where ever it's attempted. Look at Zimbabwe. Cuba. etc. Economic basket
cases. Run by loonies that think that they simply haven't done enough of it. Capitalism may not be the best system but it is the one that works the
best currently.
Me? I prefer living with running water and electricity. I prefer being able to go to a department store or grocery store and having choice when it comes to spending my consumable income. I like being able to buy apples in April and oranges any time of year.
A communist system never would have created the PC. Nintendo. Color TV for that matter.
You can tell the worthiness of a system by it's fruits. And as far as I can see Communism and Communists produced crap.
Communism is a bad socio-economic system.
Me? I prefer living with running water and electricity. I prefer being able to go to a department store or grocery store and having choice when it comes to spending my consumable income. I like being able to buy apples in April and oranges any time of year.
A communist system never would have created the PC. Nintendo. Color TV for that matter.
You can tell the worthiness of a system by it's fruits. And as far as I can see Communism and Communists produced crap.
Communism is a bad socio-economic system.
Originally posted by ntech
Communism is a bad socio-economic system.
Only when it becomes totalitarian. Then all the money gets funneled to the top and it finally collapses.
Capitalism is doing this right now. If you had a free people and the proper checks and balances socialism works better for everyone but the super rich.
Originally posted by SeleneLux
Originally posted by ntech
Communism is a bad socio-economic system.
Only when it becomes totalitarian.
Right on "cue"!
here it comes:
The Soviet bloc/ Warsawpact nations were not "true commuism".
Forget the fact:No"firstworld" communist country I know of has ever NOT gone "totalitarian". Perhaps there are surviving communist systems in some tiny central American or African countries I am not familiar with.
It's absolute power at the top;"central comittee" or no; It is ripe for power grabs and plays.
Originally posted by SeleneLux
Then all the money gets funneled to the top and it finally collapses.
Capitalism is doing this right now. If you had a free people and the proper checks and balances socialism works better for everyone but the super rich.
edit on 19-9-2011 by 46ACE because: (no reason given)
Moderator Note
AboveTopSecret.com takes pride in making every post count.
Please do not create minimal posts to start your new thread.
If you feel inclined to make the board aware of news, current events,
or important information from other sites;
*please post one or two paragraphs,
*a link to the entire story,
*AND your opinion, twist or take on the news item,
as a means to inspire discussion or collaborative research on your subject.
Please Review this Link: Starting a New Thread
This thread is closed.