Even more wierdness in Phoenix...

in the last one, it looks like a ball, cloaked even.... a distortion of some sort.

That first one, the craft is massive! it's just hovering over the city, houses, you are telling me not one news channel picked it up? fishy.

The chemtrails, weird...never saw a formation like that. good stuff though, nice vids.

That last onme looks the way I always thought a working gravity drive would.

The gravity 'well' or 'field' envelopin gthe craft would act as both a cloaking device and propulsion.

The cloaking property would automatically take effect because the light would be refracted around the field, much the way starlight can be refracted around celestial objects.

Just a thought. Your mileage may vary

Good theory.........it certainly seems that frame-dragging would cause some sort of cloak in such an object. We have been kicking around the idea of using a mobius band that would rotate around an object like a gyroscope which would also make use of the force of orbital angular momentum. In theory, you could have brief creation of(or exposure to) a black hole creating acceleration toward it, but the brief duration of its"winking in and out" would prevent it from swallowing the object. This would almost appear like jumping rope with a singularity, which is not unlike the motion that is observed in some of the video.

Originally posted by MacMerdin
I don't know about the authenticity of these videos. In the first 2 he can't keep the recorder still long enough to see anything, but in the last 2 the recorder is almost very still. Maybe he had a tripod on the last 2? Anyway, if he can keep the recorder still in the last 2 where there isn't really much to be seen....then why in the first 2 couldn't he do the same (especially the first one where there is a chance of actually seeing something)?

Mac:
Please note , our newspapers do not have a UFO section where one can check the "orbs" listing and then see they are showing at 1:30 4:00 7:00 and 9:15 p.m. The most you can do is have a camera and set it to the settings most appropriate for the current conditions.
Also note:
The first video is at night, requiring zooming and for an event of minimal time duration, not to mention shot in a storm with about 20-25 mph winds......not condusive to prime video conditions(or flare dropping for that matter)
The cloud video is a daytime video of extended duration that required little zooming and shot in conditions of abundant light and not windy.

Hope this gives you some additional perspective.

Note: this video (night) was shot in opposite direction of the first... away from town.