I thought that this video was just priceless and I think it is great that we still have Captain Kirk around to stir the pot.
In this hilarious interview, William Shatner decries Star Wars as being 'all special effects' and finally suggests an alternative ending to Star
Wars wherein Captain Kirk runs off with Princess Leia with Chewbacca in hot pursuit.
This video is a must see for fans of both movies and I hope you find it as entertaining as I did.
So, do you agree with Shatner? Or is he full of tribbles?
I feel the same as the Shat. Star Wars became crap when, Jar Jar and all the re-dos became part of it all. It has become a joke. A childrens movie.
Once a golden egg. Now a giant brown turd.
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Always disliked star wars, and never got what the fuss is all about. Perhaps it's because I grew up reading CLASSIC 'hard' science fiction...i
cannot stand these types of human tales that are called scifi just because they are in outer space...i like stories like bergeron's engine or
whatever it's called and houses that are tesseracts and you meet your past or future selves in it and fall out of the window onto a rose bush or a
prime-number locked flying prison cube in open space...i wanna know how the ship moves and what cool social structures the otherworlders have and
intelligent interaction between species not always let's shoot them omg they are shooting at us let's fly away. I love larry niven and fredrick pohl
and kurt vonnegut jr. and robert silverberg et al. i like bruce sterling and ursula le guin and wotzisname (can't remember it it's foreign
sounding but his stories are great) as well.
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Don't know about Shat being full of tribbles, but looking at his waistline, he's full o' something...
And for my two cents, both star trek and star wars have their place. Not all of either is perfect, so why argue about it? Just enjoy what you will
in your parents' dark basement.
You should see Fanboys...where Shatner hands the guys maps, etc. of Skywalker Ranch, so they can break in, hehe...
The good things about Star Wars vs. Star Trek:
1. It's a "lived in" universe...the ships have dents and scrapes, etc. It's more "real"
2. The aliens are actually different, not just humans with funky noses or eye ridges.
3. They still use money. Star Wars isn't a utopia, it's again, more "real" in this sense.
4. The Force, of course (minus the stupid midichlorian crap in Phantom)
5. Leia's gold bikini!
just wanted to thank you for your candid and very natural post; thanks for being you. From your screen name I take it you are a girl, which is a
little unusual for a sci fi and fantasy fan; especially a reader of hard sci fi.
At what age did the affliction set in (how long have you been reading the stuff?)?
You should see Fanboys...where Shatner hands the guys maps, etc. of Skywalker Ranch, so they can break in, hehe...
The good things about Star Wars vs. Star Trek:
1. It's a "lived in" universe...the ships have dents and scrapes, etc. It's more "real"
2. The aliens are actually different, not just humans with funky noses or eye ridges.
3. They still use money. Star Wars isn't a utopia, it's again, more "real" in this sense.
4. The Force, of course (minus the stupid midichlorian crap in Phantom)
5. Leia's gold bikini!
I sure did see Fanboys and I loved that scene.
We must have gone to High School in the same county or something; all five of your points are the same conclusions that we came to when my friends and
I were teens. I like to watch Next Generation repeats on the BBC and to this day I can't get over the Make-up thing; they really did just sort of
slap a new nose on something and call it a new race. The Borg aren't even really all that impressive, merely kind of cool looking, but still a guy
with a bunch of prosthetics attached to him.
Well, I like Star Trek and Star Wars (and I consider Return of the Jedi my favourite movie of all time) but the two are quite different in tone. As
Shatner mentions, Star Trek was more about the humanity and philosophy of things; Star Wars didn't have much of that at all, it was more about the
action. Star Wars definitely did have more special effects, but again, remember when TOS aired; they had less available to them. Even the Star Trek
movies don't have as many special effects as Star Wars, though.
I don't see Star Wars being derivative of Star Trek much at all, though it is derivative of other science fiction predating them both. Also, Shatner
talks about how you have no idea what a lot of the Star Wars actors really looked like under their costumes... does that really matter? I mean, I
guess you can't see some of their real facial movements and things like that, but it doesn't detract from the movie at all.
The one major point I disagree with though is when Shatner says that he thinks the Abrams movie is a good thing for the franchise. Now, I did really
enjoy the movie, but I was extremely annoyed at the complete obliteration of the entire timeline and all the canon being rewritten at Abrams' whim. I
kept thinking that somehow Ambassador Spock would 'fix' things somehow, and when the movie ended, my reaction was like...
well, like this...
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edit: crap, of course the stupid youtube screenshot has profanity on it :p I hope I don't get in trouble for that...
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hey - since I was about 10 or 11 .. I taught my sis math and got her thru a test, so my mum's friend bought me an anthology as a present, and that
was it...i was hooked...there was a small bookstore made of glass where we used to go shopping on sundays, and he had every larry niven novel
ever...so every few weeks I'd get a new larry niven book etc etc how it all began hehe : ) it's too bad my math aptitude didn't hold up in high
school or i'da been a space scientist