Israel prepares to call up their army reserves

Israel may want to think twice before messing with Turkey. Current rankings list Israel as tenth in the world and Turkey is sixth. Also you know if a war starts with Turkey Hamas will launch an all out attack.

GlobalFirepower

Let Israel fend for themselves. We've been giving them money hand over fist. They have enough nukes and a nice military. Go ahead. Wage war against your enemies. We don't have any money left to help you.

Its not so clear cut. Everyone seems to be forgetting Turkey is a NATO member and Israel isn't so no mater how the US loves Israel. To turn on a NATO member could cause a rift to form in NATO itself. At that point I don't think Russia or China would just sit back and allow something like that to happen.

So its in Israel's best interest not to get in a tussle with Turkey.

Originally posted by MrStyx
Its not so clear cut. Everyone seems to be forgetting Turkey is a NATO member and Israel isn't so no mater how the US loves Israel. To turn on a NATO member could cause a rift to form in NATO itself. At that point I don't think Russia or China would just sit back and allow something like that to happen.

So its in Israel's best interest not to get in a tussle with Turkey.

We should have nuked Israel in 1967 when the scumbag bastards attacked the USS Liberty.

We should have nuked Israel in last year when the scumbag bastards attacked the the Turkish ship since Turkey is our ally and Israel is not.

Israel is the problem and more an more Americans are learning that Zionism is pure evil.

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Interesting. Here in the U.S. you hardly ever hear whats going on in Israel. The Zionists scum keep us monkey slaves in the dark about whats going on just so we dont get any ideas.

All i've heard is about the ambassadors being recalled, which if you connect the dots you can use common sense to figure out its bad ju ju. I'm not really worried though, wars in Israel last for like 2 days and the casualties are like 3-4 people, which technically is more like a skirmish than a war. I think Israel is in need of a giant ass kicking after the way those zionist scum treat anyone that is not a jew like goyim. Basically to the zionists, if youre not a jew youre an animal, which is why they perform illegal medical experiments on muslim folk like lacing orange juice with radiation and forcing them to drink it just to see what it does to them etc. I read about that one last year, and it is appalling.

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Ahh...you have some confirmation of this sounds like more sorcha fel garbage.
Please provide link to story.
Isreal and Turkey may be not be the main event anyways.
Its probably Turky Gobbling up Syria.
With isreal scooping a piece from their side of the country.
The inexorable way tat isreal has gradually gotten bigger and bigger over the years has me convinced they are going to try to control the origonal land of their fourfathers....a fair size hunk of real estate actually......

IDF on high alert ahead of ‘September’ demonstrations

Palestinian Authority officials say they won’t be able to restrain the public if settler violence continues.

The IDF was set to go on high alert on Friday throughout the West Bank amid concern that the so-called September demonstrations will begin ahead of the Palestinian Authority’s planned unilateral declaration of statehood at the United Nations next week.

IDF sources said that demonstrations were expected to erupt already this weekend at the Kalandiya checkpoint north of Jerusalem and in Hebron. Other potential hotspots are near the settlement of Karmei Tzur in the Gush Etzion settlement bloc, near Rachel’s Tomb on the northern edge of Bethlehem and near the Palestinian town of Kaddum, between Kalkilya and Nablus.

Originally posted by Greensage
Since dual citizenship with the US is common with Israel, I wonder how many of those "reservists" are actually American?

Anyone that goes to serve in the military for Israel should immediately lose their American citizenship. Having a dual citizenship is fine but when you serve in the military you swear loyalty to that country which means they would even attack America. Just as all the members of the government that has sworn loyalty to Israel should be branded as traitors and be removed from office.

The internet is the worst thing that has ever happened to Israel.

Israel only exists because a large group of American Christians and a small group of American Jews believe the fraud that we know as Zionism.

Zionism is based on a fundamental lie!

All of today's Jews are the descendants of converts and have no claim to Palestine.

Everyone can read the real history of Zionism and learn from Jewish / Israeli historians that Zionism is a supremist ideology with racism at its core.

According to their own documents the Zionists had no intention of living in peace with the people of the Middle East. They wanted all the land mentioned in the Torah and were willing to ethinically cleanse, rape, torture and murder to get it.

The Zionists are in panic mode because Americans are finding out the truth about the criminal enterprise called Israel.

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I agree. Most people do not know the difference between the ashkenazi jew and the sephardim jew. The ashkenazi are the decendants of the jews scatter across the Roman Empire after the Romans destroyed the Temple because of a small rebel group of jews. The sephardim are those jews who did not get taken in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. and again in 135 A.D.

Ashkenazi jews were originally Russian, until Russia banished them, and finally settled in Germany where the germans welcomed them with open arms. Ashkenazi jews are the decendants of a mixure of jew and gentile breeds, and are more a bastard breed of jew than pure and many are indeed converts.

Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by Greensage
Since dual citizenship with the US is common with Israel, I wonder how many of those "reservists" are actually American?

Anyone that goes to serve in the military for Israel should immediately lose their American citizenship. Having a dual citizenship is fine but when you serve in the military you swear loyalty to that country which means they would even attack America. Just as all the members of the government that has sworn loyalty to Israel should be branded as traitors and be removed from office.

If I am not mistaken, in Israel, it is manditory that all Israelis age 18 serve 2 years in the military? Or am I wrong? If this is the case, then no Israeli born adult would ever be able to become a US citizen the way you put it.

Originally posted by BRAVO949
The internet is the worst thing that has ever happened to Israel.

Israel only exists because a large group of American Christians and a small group of American Jews believe the fraud that we know as Zionism.

Zionism is based on a fundamental lie!

All of today's Jews are the descendants of converts and have no claim to Palestine.

Everyone can read the real history of Zionism and learn from Jewish / Israeli historians that Zionism is a supremist ideology with racism at its core.

According to their own documents the Zionists had no intention of living in peace with the people of the Middle East. They wanted all the land mentioned in the Torah and were willing to ethinically cleanse, rape, torture and murder to get it.

The Zionists are in panic mode because Americans are finding out the truth about the criminal enterprise called Israel.

edit on 16-9-2011 by BRAVO949 because: spelling

Why are you purposely spreading disinformation? Honestly? If you have an agenda, at least try to base your opinions on the truth.

Have you lived in Israel? Are you aware of the extensive population diversity in Israel?

I am a sephardic jew of Moroccan heritage, with roots that go all the way back to Spain and France prior to the Spanish Inquisition. I am well aware of the historic roots and migrational patterns of both sephardic and ashkenazi jews.

Are you not aware that the ancient Israelites were scattered all over the globe as a result of persecution throughout history in what is commonly referred to as the Diaspora prior to 1948?

Today, there is a vast element of multiculturalism within Judaism as a result, and Israel's population consists of jews of many different ethinicities. Israel's modern day jewish population consists primarily of people of Mediterranean, African, Middle Eastern, European, South American, Indian, and Asian ethnicities.

Get a clue before you spew hateful, nonsensical, diatribes.

Originally posted by Darkblade71

Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by Greensage
Since dual citizenship with the US is common with Israel, I wonder how many of those "reservists" are actually American?

Anyone that goes to serve in the military for Israel should immediately lose their American citizenship. Having a dual citizenship is fine but when you serve in the military you swear loyalty to that country which means they would even attack America. Just as all the members of the government that has sworn loyalty to Israel should be branded as traitors and be removed from office.

If I am not mistaken, in Israel, it is manditory that all Israelis age 18 serve 2 years in the military? Or am I wrong? If this is the case, then no Israeli born adult would ever be able to become a US citizen the way you put it.

What's wrong with that? The US already has a immigration problem. We need to start severely curtailing how many people we let in anyway. We don't have enough jobs for the people here now adding more people just adds to the problem.

Originally posted by Humanity4Ever

Originally posted by BRAVO949
The internet is the worst thing that has ever happened to Israel.

Israel only exists because a large group of American Christians and a small group of American Jews believe the fraud that we know as Zionism.

Zionism is based on a fundamental lie!

All of today's Jews are the descendants of converts and have no claim to Palestine.

Everyone can read the real history of Zionism and learn from Jewish / Israeli historians that Zionism is a supremist ideology with racism at its core.

According to their own documents the Zionists had no intention of living in peace with the people of the Middle East. They wanted all the land mentioned in the Torah and were willing to ethinically cleanse, rape, torture and murder to get it.

The Zionists are in panic mode because Americans are finding out the truth about the criminal enterprise called Israel.

edit on 16-9-2011 by BRAVO949 because: spelling

Why are you purposely spreading disinformation? Honestly? If you have an agenda, at least try to base your opinions on the truth.

Have you lived in Israel? Are you aware of the extensive population diversity in Israel?

I am a sephardic jew of Moroccan heritage, with roots that go all the way back to Spain and France prior to the Spanish Inquisition. I am well aware of the historic roots and migrational patterns of both sephardic and ashkenazi jews.

Are you not aware that the ancient Israelites were scattered all over the globe as a result of persecution throughout history in what is commonly referred to as the Diaspora prior to 1948?

Today, there is a vast element of multiculturalism within Judaism as a result, and Israel's population consists of jews of many different ethinicities. Israel's modern day jewish population consists primarily of people of Mediterranean, African, Middle Eastern, European, South American, Indian, and Asian ethnicities.

Get a clue before you spew hateful, nonsensical, diatribes.

You might want to get a clue yourself before telling other people that. He is talking about Zionist not Jews. Just because a person says the word Zionist doesn't mean they are talking about Jews because there are Christian Zionist as well as Jewish. Zionism is a political movement even Biden admits he a Zionist.

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Oh really? This is his exact quote...

"All of today's Jews are the descendants of converts and have no claim to Palestine"

The overwhelming majority of Israeli citizens and jews worldwide are not alleged "Zionists", and aren't even familair with the so called ideology. Israelis just want to live in peace.

Originally posted by Humanity4Ever
reply to post by buster2010

 

Oh really? This is his exact quote...

"All of today's Jews are the descendants of converts and have no claim to Palestine"

The overwhelming majority of Israeli citizens and jews worldwide are not alleged "Zionists", and aren't even familair with the so called ideology. Israelis just want to live in peace.

edit on 16-9-2011 by Humanity4Ever because: (no reason given)

All of today's Jews are converts. All of them. Every one of them. There is not one Jew alive today who is not the descendant of a convert.

You are the descendant of converts. You need to be protected from Zionism.

Zionism is a myth like Noah's Ark.

There was never a "race" of Jews even in biblical times. It says that right in the Torah.

You can not have a "race" of Jews today because there was no race of Jews ever in history.

There is no historical / archaeological evidence indicating let alone proving an expulsion of Jews by the Romans.

The "Jews" of 70 AD, in other words the various ethnic people who practiced some sort of religion we now call Judaism mainly converted to Christianity then later to Islam.

The modern day Palestinians are as close to "Jews" as you will ever find.

Sephardic Jews are not a race. They are descendants of Berbers who were originally Pheonecians but have the blood of other groups of converts as well.

You can repeat any myth you want but science and real historians who are not under the employment of Zionist liars make your myth look pathetic.

If Zionists are so certain of their "blood" link to Palestine and are as smart as they always claim to be then they should create a DNA test to decide who should be allowed into "Israel."

What you would find is that 60 million Poles, Russians, Bulgarian, Greeks, Souther Italian, Spanish, Portugese and a whole variety of North Africans who practice every sort of religion would be just as qualified to live in Israel as Natalie Portman.

Zionism is a Fraud

Tell everyone Zionism is a fraud.

Originally posted by Humanity4Ever
reply to post by buster2010

 

Oh really? This is his exact quote...

"All of today's Jews are the descendants of converts and have no claim to Palestine"

The overwhelming majority of Israeli citizens and jews worldwide are not alleged "Zionists", and aren't even familair with the so called ideology. Israelis just want to live in peace.

edit on 16-9-2011 by Humanity4Ever because: (no reason given)

You are first and foremost a human being.

Isn't that good enough?

Isn't that enough?

Because someone is a Baptist today does not mean they are related to John the Baptist.

A "Jew" (person who thinks they are a Jew) from New York can teach Yoga but that does not mean she is a descenfant of Siddhartha Gautama.

A Jamaican Anglican can't go to Yorkshire and demand Jack Smedley move out of his house because it belonged to a person 2,000 years ago the descenants of whom became Anglican 1,700 years later.

You have a right to live. You have a right to practice any religion you want. You have a right to defend Israel and Zionism but you don't have a right to demand that I believe in your myth and that my tax dollars fund Israeli Apartheid.

Turkey changing it's F-16 radar/ ships targeting systems to tag Israeli planes as "hostile"....lol.


Israel would hand Turkey it's rear. Turkey's military systems will never hit an Israeli target. The software on Turkey's military gear....soon won't allow it to shoot anyone but themselves.

Same with the Saudi military hardware that will soon be heading to Israel.

Originally posted by John0Doe
reply to post by Vitchilo

 

If Israel hits Iran,and if Turkey hits Israel,it is not just war inbetween the three,but the whole region will burn.... Egipt,Libya,Palestinians,Syria,Lebanon,even Saudi Arabia will join if Israel flys over SA,because they were clear not to allow Israely flys to fly over their teritory. It could mean WW3.... US will be on side of Israel of course,as will France,Britain,Italy Spain.... This could end up bad..... for everyone.

I couldn't agree with you more, it could (and probably will) get bad for everyone in any industrialized nation even if fighting stays only in the mideast. Think of the collateral consequences a regional war would have on the world economy and society. We are much more of a one-world society today than we were in the 60's and look at what the cold war and Vietnam had the possibility of escalating into.

In any case should major fighting break out in the mideast there will be sides drawn and lines drawn in the sand and it won't take much once the lines have been drawn for someone to cross it, then you better have your BOB and plans made and be ready for some major civil unrest and the possible completion of the agenda that has been forced upon us for the last 25-30 years.

I'm not trying to be a doom and gloomer, I'm just looking at all the evidence from every angle and side, and the only thing I can figure is ultimately, definately going to happen as the next major world event isn't going to be Nibiru or Elenin but a literal explosion of violence and war starting in the mideast and quite pssibly engulfing much of the world.

I don't say this based off of bible or any other prophecies only off of observation. While TPTB preach "unity and multiculturalism" to the masses we are more divided as a world (and within nations) than we have ever been in history. Each political faction around the world is vying for ultimate control of the worlds resources, the same factions are vying over ultimate control of the masses. We have communist, socialist and capitalist political figures vying for economic control of instituting world currency. And we have world religions vying over which is the right religion and fighting religious wars and countries fighting over age old land disputes.

Everything seems to be lining up in a way that suggests the only possible outcome is conflict on a worl wide scale and let's face it, the problems of the world are not getting any better. The Israelies and Palistinians have been fighting over that land since the beginning of time. Personally I think there will be a conflict between Israel and Egypt/Turkey and then it will spill over into Iran and Pakistan. Then it will all go south from there. It may happen next week or it may happen next year. Either way it is going to happen and I tend to think it will be sooner instead of later.

You have 2 groups of people that have been fighting over that land for 3,700 years and no matter what has happened to try and gain peace niether group is happy. When you have a conflict that has went on this long and has yet to be resolved there is bound to be violence and war, and we have seen it already on numerous occasions, now we are about to see it on an eventual world wide level.