RED ALERT: FDA Set to Ban Your Supplements

While I am a huge believer in mega doses of vita's for certain illnesses....I just wanted to put it out there to do your own research carefully before doing so! Don't just take what you read here and run with it!
Mega doses of vita C while pregnant can induce miscarriage...

That being said...The FDA, USDA, and other similar agencies are over the line criminal at times in the shady dealings they make!
They are supposed to protect us and our health but it has just become am awful and obvious money game!
It is so upsetting!

ahh Codex Alimentarius.
It will get worse unless positive action arrests it.
It rolls out globally attached to the WTO.

Life is a journey of understanding and wisdom and we do not all make it.
I can make both good and bad decisions for myself and so can my loved ones. I will be responsible for those decisions. I will consult when I am unsure and when I seek alternatives. I will discuss, evaluate and recommend and I expect you to do the same.
I will not always get it right and netiher will everyone else but my heart is pure and my intentions are good.
In light of the previous paragraph, people get sick and die, that is their business, not yours.......
Sovereign beings may make decisions to their detriment and they shall be "free" to do so.

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by v1rtu0s0

 

FDA's actual position:

FDA's guidance documents, including this guidance, do not establish legally enforceable responsibilities. Instead, guidances describe the Agency's current thinking on a topic and should be viewed only as recommendations, unless specific regulatory or statutory requirements are cited. The use of the word should in Agency guidances means that something is suggested or recommended, but not required.

Source

Feel free to quote the part where the FDA bans all suppliments and tries to take over the world.

Kind of like how the IRS cannot technically legally enforce citizens to pay incomes taxes?

jeez you would think by now they would have run out of ways to tax us,here in oz we just got the carbon tax.....makes me wonder how long until we get a sunlight tax...

peace

Well the government has banned my medicine of choice yet I never had a problem getting it. Our goverment is powerless , It's all an illusion people.

There are going to be A LOT of very angry bodybuilders if this goes down.....

I feel like you're going to get flamed in this thread for using a Mercola video man.

This seems to happen about every 2 years. They try it ...they lose.....they try again. It has been going on for years. If it happens how are they going to enforce it? So it will be herbs next?
Blame big pharma.......They cannot make a profit unless we are in poor health. Sorry but two things I do not trust 1) Government
2) Drug companies
Oh yeah I am a Doctor.

Originally posted by Openeye
reply to post by v1rtu0s0

 

Thanks for posting this.

I mean how can you ban things which are natural?

You mean like arsenic, a totally naturally ocurring elemental crystal?
Or Potassium Cyanide, a mixture or natural elements Potassium, Carbon, and Nitrogen?
Or Clostridium botulinum, which is so natural it is a living creature?
Or Escherichia coli?
Etc., etc.

Wow......Well this is Ok. Know why? Because the pressure will build to the point where the FDA will either get their butts kicked or it will cease to exist. I'm hoping for scenario #2......

I have no clue who the guy in the video is, but he's full of it. If the FDA is taking supplements off the market, there's a reason for it! And I am talking as a collegiate athlete who has taken supplements for almost 9 years. In my experince, the supplements getting taken off the market have literally been steroids under the guise of "pro-hormones", or the supplements combination is pure crap and the supplement company is completely lying about what's in it. And guess what, if they really do take fish oil off the market and other related supplements, guess what supplement companies will do? THEY WILL STILL PUT IT IN THEIR SUPPLEMENTS, the only difference will be instead of telling the consumer that they are buying fish oil, they will say something to the effect in the ingredients section Ultimate,Mega,Scare-Small-Children Proprietary Heart-Blend. "Hey bro, isn't it time you get your heart JACKED too! Take our product that now include our state of the art Ultimate,Mega,Scare-Small-Children Proprietary Heart-Blend" Even though it's really still Fish Oil. Open up your pantry and look at some of your food, I gaurantee at least one product will have "spices" as an ingredient. It's kinda like that.

Fish Oil/Omega 3 is an important part of my diet.

These people really want to incite violence in this country. I hope the cowards that continue to sell this populace up the creek won't be hiding when it comes time for their blindfold and cigarette.

trust me, if this is at all true, doctors will jump on that bandwagon real quick, and the great minds in the white coats will think of a way to turn it into a drug they can perscribe. I mean come on, any one of us, including me a young buck, can go into a specialist and tell them "I have low testerone" and they will give you steroids, excuse me "hormone replacement therapy". So if they'll give any schmuck "therapy" based on a chart of non-defined data, I think you'll do just find getting your heart meds. If there is a conspiracy, it is the FDA is working hand in hand with the pharmaceutical companies. Gotta love those lobyists.

I know, the pharmaceutical industry has been trying this world wide. I became aware of it in about 2005. We have the same issue in England with EU directives trying to get through. Trouble is it's still really hard for pharmaceuticals to copyright a naturally occurring substance (unless they spend money finding the "active ingredient" & synthesizing it which has a high failure rate) so there isn't actually that much profit for them to reap from it. If they succeed in getting the ban they’re working towards, there will be big problems trying to repackage & sell a banned substance anyway, shooting themselves in the foot there as they clamour for increased profits.
Basically this brings them back to their usual brief ; they can sell us stuff that masks the symptoms instead of treating the cause (which is what pharmaceuticals do for a living make no mistake, they're here to make profits not end suffering- where’s the profit in that?) . You should probably be aware that because of this many doctors (especially in Eurpoe) will tell you a condition does not exist because it “has not been recognised by science”, but the truth is the pharmaceuticals who represent “science” , did not recognise the condition because there is no profit to be made from it rather than that the condition doesn’t exist. For “not scientifically proven” always be aware that “not profitable” may be the real issue. This is much more pronounced in the UK than in America.

The delay in the pharmaceuticals ability to ban natural substances centres around the a few issues; That it’s only 1 step away from banning growing or catching your own food which is something all sorts of people are prepared to defend , the fact that a rebellious sect of chemists & biologists who work in the pharmaceutical industry will insist of doing proper accurate science instead of the profitable kind required, and the fact that internally they realise they can’t easily repackage & sell a substance they themselves got banned. So basically some factions of the pharmaceutical industry keep trying to get various health bodies to ban stuff but others don’t give their support. I hope they continue to fail but it is indeed relentless & regular.

Basically this is about the pharmaceutical industry wanting the profits made by the supplements market, or if they can’t have those profits kill the supplements industry so that the market for in the pharmaceuticals grows. The supplements market has some fight in it though & luckily some of those people are wealthy enough to be listened to.

Originally posted by nickendres
I have no clue who the guy in the video is, but he's full of it. If the FDA is taking supplements off the market, there's a reason for it! And I am talking as a collegiate athlete who has taken supplements for almost 9 years. In my experince, the supplements getting taken off the market have literally been steroids under the guise of "pro-hormones", or the supplements combination is pure crap and the supplement company is completely lying about what's in it. And guess what, if they really do take fish oil off the market and other related supplements, guess what supplement companies will do? THEY WILL STILL PUT IT IN THEIR SUPPLEMENTS, the only difference will be instead of telling the consumer that they are buying fish oil, they will say something to the effect in the ingredients section Ultimate,Mega,Scare-Small-Children Proprietary Heart-Blend. "Hey bro, isn't it time you get your heart JACKED too! Take our product that now include our state of the art Ultimate,Mega,Scare-Small-Children Proprietary Heart-Blend" Even though it's really still Fish Oil. Open up your pantry and look at some of your food, I gaurantee at least one product will have "spices" as an ingredient. It's kinda like that.

I'm not even sure how to reply to this...

Originally posted by v1rtu0s0

Originally posted by nickendres
I have no clue who the guy in the video is, but he's full of it. If the FDA is taking supplements off the market, there's a reason for it! And I am talking as a collegiate athlete who has taken supplements for almost 9 years. In my experince, the supplements getting taken off the market have literally been steroids under the guise of "pro-hormones", or the supplements combination is pure crap and the supplement company is completely lying about what's in it. And guess what, if they really do take fish oil off the market and other related supplements, guess what supplement companies will do? THEY WILL STILL PUT IT IN THEIR SUPPLEMENTS, the only difference will be instead of telling the consumer that they are buying fish oil, they will say something to the effect in the ingredients section Ultimate,Mega,Scare-Small-Children Proprietary Heart-Blend. "Hey bro, isn't it time you get your heart JACKED too! Take our product that now include our state of the art Ultimate,Mega,Scare-Small-Children Proprietary Heart-Blend" Even though it's really still Fish Oil. Open up your pantry and look at some of your food, I gaurantee at least one product will have "spices" as an ingredient. It's kinda like that.

I'm not even sure how to reply to this...

A reply along the lines of hey try some of this fish oil.......it boosts your brain power!

I had to come back to this thread because I did some more research and it's really upsetting.. I am a bodybuilder and there a few supplements which I rely heavily upon (Whey protein, Creatine, etc.). Life is about to get really tough, maybe impossible for my lifestyle. My body requires so much more nutrition than is possible to get from food and I'm just too busy to eat a prepared meal every two hours anyway. I need protein shakes as meal substitutes that I can have on the go with minimal preparation time. A lot of these companies are so small that they will be put out of business when the new regulations are put in place.

This was so covertly achieved it is sickening.....

Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Legislation is not law, merely evidence of law. If it is law, that legislation is protecting the rights of individuals, if the legislation is not doing that then it is merely legislation not rooted in law.

Why are you talking about legislation and law?

Aren't we talking about a guidance document which is not legally enforceable by the FDA or anyone else?

www.fda.gov...

FDA's guidance documents, including this guidance, do not establish legally enforceable responsibilities. Instead, guidances describe the Agency's current thinking on a topic and should be viewed only as recommendations, unless specific regulatory or statutory requirements are cited. The use of the word should in Agency guidances means that something is suggested or recommended, but not required.

"FDA's guidance documents, including this guidance, do not establish legally enforceable responsibilities" Not legally enforceable.

I don't know why people are talking about laws and legislation. This is neither.

The FDA and pharma are not friends. The FDA blocks pharma from marketing beneficial drugs all the time.

The FDA is a government agency that wants to regulate what we do to and for our own bodies. Just more regulation, more intrusion into our lives.

Don't be fooled. Government won't be happy until they can control you completely.

reply to post by Arbitrageur

I don't know why people are talking about laws and legislation. This is neither.

The American People have seen their rights and freedoms trampled upon and attempts made at restricting them through a step by step process of incremental acts. Since at least 1995 the FDA has been seeking legislative permission to restrict the manufacture, sale, and consumption of herbs and vitamins, and other supplements and in some instances have succeeded in imposing their capricious and arbitrary tyranny on specific substances. L-Tryptophan is just one example:

There was a large tryptophan-related outbreak of eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome (EMS) in 1989, which caused 1,500 cases of permanent disability and at least thirty-seven deaths. Some epidemiological studies[41][42][43] traced the outbreak to L-tryptophan supplied by a Japanese manufacturer, Showa Denko KK.[44] It was further hypothesized that one or more trace impurities produced during the manufacture of tryptophan may have been responsible for the EMS outbreak.[45][46] The fact that the Showa Denko facility used genetically engineered bacteria to produce L-tryptophan gave rise to speculation that genetic engineering was responsible for such impurities.[47][48] However, the methodology used in the initial epidemiological studies has been criticized.[49][50] An alternative explanation for the 1989 EMS outbreak is that large doses of tryptophan produce metabolites that inhibit the normal degradation of histamine, and excess histamine in turn has been proposed to cause EMS.[51] Most tryptophan was banned from sale in the US in 1991, and other countries followed suit. Tryptophan from one manufacturer, of six, continued to be sold for manufacture of baby formulas. At the time of the ban, the FDA did not know, or did not indicate, that EMS was caused by a contaminated batch,[52][53] and yet, even when the contamination was discovered and the purification process fixed, the FDA maintained that L-tryptophan is unsafe. In February 2001, the FDA loosened the restrictions on marketing (though not on importation), but still expressed the following concern:

en.wikipedia.org...

Long before the FDA, Congress or any other arrogant governmental agency determines that they have the authority to ban, or heavily regulate herbs, minerals, vitamins and other natural supplements, it is imperative that the People understand that legislation is not law, merely evidence of law, and that law is rooted in the protection of individual rights. So, my question to you is:

Why are you trying to dismiss the fact that legislation is no more law than a map is the territory, or a word the thing defined? Why are you pretending that big pharma has not made clear and present advances in cornering the market on health products, and that they have done so by selling crap to people instead of selling actual medicine? Finally, why are you pretending to be so confused? I, for one, am not buying it anymore than I buy big pharma and the FDA's stance.

I just wonder how far the FDA would go.
Is it a ploy to get the smaller companies bankrupt?

Becasue I gotta think some of the drug companies are making money off these supplements, too?
Who would they limit their bottom line, too?