CSIRS- The Mystery Project?

Back in the 1980's there were rumors of a Top Secret Stealth Project known as the Covert Survivable In-weather Reconnassance and Strike (CSIRS)! While I know very little about this plane, I know it was supposed to be a stealth plane that was design Primarly for all weather Reconnassance Missions, with a secondary precision strike mission. I though that it had something to do with the F-117, but I still found a refrence to it in 1994 after the F-117 was Declassified. The Refrence said the program might have used the code name: SPECTER. Also, The F-117 does not have a Reconnassance capabilty that I'm aware of. Does anyone know what this is? Does Lockheed (or someone else) have a stealth plane that's more secret then the F-117 with a simular but Covert mission?

Tim
ATS Director of Counter-Ignorance

The F-19 model was a messed up projection of what was thought of the f-117 before it was declassified

I think the SPECTRE was nothing more than an F-117 that carried reconaissance equipment and could have been used to attack targets, most probably CIA. The CIA has always had a version of a highly balck program ex U-2, Blackbird, Predator ect.

Tim,

The RAND corporation has that acronym listed in one of thier documents. Nothing beyond that, but it does give us another clue eh?
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how many of you guys this think this may somewhat be related to aurora? the model looks somewhat like the Sr75 penetrator which was probably bogus but it also looks like the brilliant buzzard.i have a feeling there is some relation to aurora, buzzard etc.

Of course the F-117 is proported to be a sub-sonic aircraft, so once a lock-on occurs or visual contact is made, it would most likely be a sitting duck. In any case, the possibilities are tremendous. Also note that in 1986, there was to have been designed the Covert Survivable In- weather Recon/Strike (CSIRS) aircraft (according to the ARCO Illustrated Guide to Spy Planes). Other reports have indicated the concept had lost funding. Perhaps another aircraft similar in function could have replaced it. Certainly, with the nearly untouchable SR-71 out of service, there may a gaping hole left in the Strategic Reconaissance role.
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General Dynamics (Lockheed Martin) A-11 / "Model 100"
During the late 1970s, General Dynamics designed a supersonic stealth strike aircraft under the ASTEI program. In 1983, USAF began a program to develop a stealth reconnaissance and strike aircraft. The strike capability would initially be focused on SEAD, but a derivative might also replace the F-111. This could explain why there were reports of a program called CSIRS (for Covert Survivable In-weather Recon/Strike) before the F-117 was revealed. Lockheed, Rockwell and General Dynamics submitted proposals for the competition. In February 1984 the Navy launched the ATA program, and proposals were submitted by Northrop/Grumman, Lockheed/LTV and General Dynamics/McDonnell Douglas. Late in 1984 General Dynamics was chosen to develop the USAF aircraft and the Navy awarded ATA Concept Definition Studies to Northrop/Grumman and General Dynamics/MDD.

In April 1986 the Secretary of Air Force Edward Aldridge signed a Memorandum of Understanding stating that USAF would consider ATA as its F-111 replacement. This restricted the General Dynamics aircraft of the USAF to a recon/SEAD role. Development Validation contracts for the ATA were awarded in June 1986 to Northrop/Grumman and General Dynamics/MDD. The GD Model 100, as the USAF aircraft was known, made its first flight in 1986 or 1988. Due to high cost and possible duplication with the Navy's A-12 program the GD Model 100 aircraft was cancelled in the Secretary of Defence Richard Cheney's Major Aircraft Review in 1990. But the cancellation of Lockheed's AARS in 1993 left the Air Force without a stealthy recon platform, and the Model 100 program was probably thus reinstated. Four to eight aircraft were produced in 1994-1996 and based at Groom Lake. It may have the USAF designation A-11 Astra.

The General Dynamics Model 100 could explain the rumored FB-119, AX-17, "Black Manta" and TR-3A aircraft, all of which are reported as stealthy recon/strike planes. Model 100 is probably shaped like a narrow triangle with a 65 degree leading edge sweep and two inward-canted vertical tails. It is powered by two General Electric F404 turbofans with a ventral air intake and capable of moderate supersonic performance. Single-seated, it would have approximately the same payload capacity as the F-117A but a longer range. The shape of the Model 100 would also explain some "Aurora" sightings, and the North Sea report almost certainly refers to this plane.

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[edit on 24-8-2004 by phantompatriot]

The Secret Projects Forum explains the truth about the CSIRS program:

In 1980s press reports of the "stealth fighter" before public disclosure of SENIOR TREND, the program name "CSIRS" for "Covert, Survivable In-Weather Reconnaisance/Strike" was mentioned as (possibly) being the "F-19" program.

This was actually a group of AF/DARPA programs that was intended to result in the Covert Strike Consolidated Demonstration (Covert Strike (PE 33103F Project 2831), Advanced Integrated Reference System, Weapon System Demonstration (PE 62601F), Automated Target Recognition). This was an outgrowth of the Covert Strike System Study (PE 62204F).

The primary component of the Covert Strike program was a bistatic radar system. A remote radar in a "sanctuary" would illunminate the target, while attacking aircraft or munitions would passively receiver reflected radar energy. The radar itself grew out of an earlier program, Tactical Bistatic Radar Demonstration (T-Bird). The Covert Strike effort existed as early as 1982, but seems to have become a formal program of record as a new start in 1984.

The system was to be demonstrated in concert with very low observable munitions dispensers, and the intent was to not only produce new-build Covert Strike capable radars but to retrofit the capability to existing systems (F-15, F-16, B-1). The munitions dispensers for this effort may have lead to HAVE SLICK and other similar programs of the 1980s and 1990s.