Do you live by the word of the Lord?

I wanted to own Canadians 'A' it would have been AWESOME

“On her radio show, Dr Laura Schlesinger said that, as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance. The following response is an open letter to Dr. Laura, penned by a US resident (NB there is some discrepency regarding the true authorship of the letter)

Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination… End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God’s Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness – Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath.Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination – Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle- room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.

Your adoring fan.

James M. Kauffman, Ed.D. Professor Emeritus Dept. of Curriculum,
Instruction, and Special Education University of Virginia”

I've seen this before but it never gets old!

Thanks for the reminder

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1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?

CORRECT ANSWER
In early Israel, legal punishment was slavery for stealing. There were also slaves working off debt that could not be paid by the family. The third reason to be a servant to a land owner was for a job. They did not 'own' slaves simply as forced labor. This is a misunderstanding.

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

Correct Answer:
Selling a daughter into the service of a family was for arranged marriages. We do not understand this today, but in the East, this was and still is the policy in some places. For the daughter, this was advantageous. For the community, this was a way of life and accepted by all, including the daughter.

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness – Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

Correct Answer:
This was critical in a day and age when showers were not taken each day. These were people living in the desert. The same goes for circumcision. Women suffered infection from males who were filthy.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

Correct Answer
This is all symbolism for the sacrifice that a person makes to release pride to God in faith. Compare this to baptism. Baptism is the symbol for immersion of the soul into the water of the material world. Compare this to the veil of the temple and the holy area of the priest. The veil over the mind is what this symbolizes. This allows us to live by faith and not fact.

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath.Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

Correct Answer:
This was in the worst case. Stoning was rare and only for capital offenses. All stoning was seen as the way to punish someone who thumbed their nose at the law of the land. Bernie Maidoff would have been stoned.

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination – Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of abomination?

Correct Answer:
God set all law into motion in the universe. When we go against the law, nature answers with a correction. In the day and age of the Hebrew, refrigeration was not available. There are MANY ways to get sick from shellfish, especially when it is not fresh and preserved. This was the WORST food a person could eat if not caught fresh. So YES, it was an abomination. Homosexuality involves oral sex. Oral sex, in the Hebrew world, would have been a sure way to die in the desert via infection and sickness. This is also opposite of what God intended for the family. Children need a mother and a father to grow up as intended by God. This is the design.

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle- room here?

Correct Answer
This the law concerning priests. This was actually a way to help the poor. "He shall eat of the sacrifices with the other priests, even the most holy things, such as the show-bread and the sin-offerings, as well as the holy things, such as the tithes and first-fruits, and the priests’ share of the peace-offerings." Matthew Henry.

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

Correct Answer
Again, the health of the population was a consideration. Pride in the heart can be seen when a man adorns himself to gain attention. Pride is what God was trying to replace with faith in the individual by revealing it with the law. Ultimately, Christ is the answer to true faith. The law was the guardian. Galatians 3

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9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

Correct Answer

Again, it was a consideration of health for the Hebrews only.

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

Correct Answer

Monsanto. No more needs to be said.

God was correct for the people he was using as the example. We should follow love for others. This is what God did as the example of the Hebrew people. The laws of our day are different, but the principles are the same. If God says it is bad for you, He is correct. In this day and age, we use this example to guide our own actions. Ultimately, if we do not love others with the same compassion, we fail them. God did not fail us. Do not judge others. Love them instead. This includes those who make the choice to live apart from God's laws. Nature takes its course and nothing more needs to be done. We are not the judge. God is.

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HAHA much better than eds spoiler!
Don’t believe in god or the bible it’s a load of bull, if he was real and I see him id pimp slap his bearded old face!!

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Well this explains more than I ever could

reply to post by Wo0kiEE

dont work mate

yes it does :-)

reply to post by ototheb85

eddies explination is more convincing than the bible any day!

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Love it and explains a lot

Originally posted by Kryties
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Let me take your mirrored context above and twist it back to original meaning. It is easy to twist meaning and make a joke of any topic. This topic, however, is not something to be trampled.

I'm going to create a man and a women with original sin, because a magic rib-woman ate an apple because a talking snake convinced her to.

Each of the figures in this twisted version are symbols in the original. Man and woman a symbols for opposites, just like good and evil represent a division of light and darkness. The rib from Adam was used to construct the opposite to man as a comparison of father and mother. The Apple represents the prize of knowledge. This is the fruit of living life. The talking snake is a symbol of deceitfulness that is possible by creating sentient life with free will. This is the object of our attention that must be overcome by the law of God. The law of God is to humbly love others as yourself. Pride is the opposite of this love and causes division. The prime example of division caused by pride can be seen in the relationship to a man and a woman. Adam and Eve, just like good and evil, are used as symbols for what they represent. Bringing the two together in union creates life. Again, we live this symbol each day of our lives. Marriage always ends due to the pride of one partner over the other. True love sees the other partner as equal. Jesus said to love others, even your enemies. This is the ultimate goal of Gods law of Agape love.

"Then I'm going to impregnate a woman with myself as her child, so that I can be born. Once alive, I will kill myself as a sacrifice to myself to save you for the sin I originally condemned you to..."

Man was born with a soulish nature. This is similar to the nature of an animal. The animal nature is necessary to survive when sentient life is first created. For free will and artificial life to develop, all opposites must be experienced and adaptation must take place. When man was ready, Jesus came in person as the symbol of our transition from animal to sentient intelligence. Responsibility comes by experience. Jesus talked in parable because symbol is the key to learning volumes of information by one image. The image of the sacrifice, put in our place, is the same image of Abram sacrificing his son to God. God stopped him and provided the sacrifice. Faith is developed by the sacrifice we make to seek truth and live by suffering work rather than taking reward. LINK See the link to the left to understand that this is simple mathematics. The debt created by those who steal reward is transferred where it belongs. Those who are taken from receive the true reward of suffering for others. This is the story of the cross and love for others.

I will not give you any evidence of this, other than various conflicting tales written down decades after I existed, by uneducated desert people.

Those uneducated desert people said this:

In the Beginning (Time), God created the heavens (Space) and the earth (Matter). Let there be light (Energy). I would say that we were uneducated until 1905 when Einstein proved this to the world. Evidence is everywhere. If you know how to divide the darkness from the light, which is the point of experiencing life, then you can see truth when it is presented and counterfeit truth when it is found.

"And the tales they tell will bear striking resemblance to numerous myths from other, older cultures."

Trade routes in the lands of Europe and the East produced the fiction of the day. There is only one that stands today as verified revelation. All other stories arise from the root story. Biblical events have two common elements. They point to ultimate truth and they actually happened.

But if you do not believe all of this without question, I will send you to roast in a lake of fire for all of eternity.

Actually, what Jesus said was that "You must be born again" (John 3). In other words, sentience is developed and judged each life you live. Your soul cannot die. There is a final judgment when you are finally judged by your development. You must live by faith in order to exert autonomy and free will. Otherwise, you would be a remote controlled object. God gave you freedom and equality. What you do with your thoughts and actions determine the ultimate outcome. Find love for God and others and you live eternally. You will light the fire you burn by.

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Tell you what, just send me a bible that has asterisks next to all the bits we aren't meant to take literally.

Originally posted by Kryties
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Tell you what, just send me a bible that has asterisks next to all the bits we aren't meant to take literally.

All paradoxes can be seen as truth when the excluded middle is seen clearly. Eastern thought is concrete. This means it actually happened. Western thought is abstract. In the West, we see the world from the larger implications that are suggested by meaning and discovery. Anagnorisis is a word used to describe this type of discovery. Through discovery, we find truth and learn what to stand for by the observation of the concrete world. Peripeteia comes to our minds as we make sudden realizations of deeper meanings in life by seeing the underlying meaning from the surface and waves of the ocean of knowledge and wisdom.

The Bible is an onion that is meant to be peeled. It is concrete because it actually happened. It is abstract because it is meant to reveal hidden meaning. This meaning requires study and experience to be learned. Confucius said, "I hear and I forget. I see and I learn. I do and I understand." The Bible is the guide to doing.

Gnosis is spiritual insight. Pride will stop this dead in its tracks. To receive this inner insight, God must be seen as He is. Love requires that both partners accept each other in equality.

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Sorry mate, but nothing you can say or do will convince me that the bible is nothing other than a set of values to live your life by - using religious figures and supernatural powers as fictional examples to back them up.

I've seen, first-hand, what religion can do to a family and as far as I'm concerned I want no more part of it - no matter what justifications or excuses are thrown at me.

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What the sam hell.... all I did was post a rather amusing email. I was forced to go to church until I was 16. when i developed a taste for the dark side of things, well they had cookies. what can I say? now at the ripe old age of 35 I discovered Buddhism. Which is a way of life rather than some forced doctrine where you are told that you must abide by these sets of rules or you will burn in the fiery depths of hell. Don't want to upset anyone but have you seen the way the world is these days? in my opinion we are in a daily hell now. Don't see the 'Select few' being saved....

Religion is the biggest cause of war/death/violence on this planet except money.

so where is your god now?

P.S. Get a sense of humour, my folks are very religious but even they can tell a joke from being serious.....

Originally posted by Wo0kiEE
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P.S. Get a sense of humour, my folks are very religious but even they can tell a joke from being serious.....

Hope your not talking to me there, I've tried my hardest to keep the thread light I swear! There's always one person though who has to go and take it all serious-like...............

reply to post by Kryties


Well funnily enough I wasn't talking bout U dude.... although U can be a little too serious.. SHEESH

reply to post by Wo0kiEE


Hehe, just checkin

Me, serious? Naaaah.......lies I tells ya, LIES!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Kryties
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Hehe, just checkin

Me, serious? Naaaah.......lies I tells ya, LIES!!!!!!!!!

Well the internet said you were, & we all know everything on the intermthingy is true...

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I believe the correct term is "Intermewebamajingymathingy".