Top 5 Things Every Survivalist Should have But To Few Can afford

reply to post by DaddyBare


now see you reminded me of something i did look at a while ago and forgot

ground based radar and there range is 20 to 30 miles even in any terrain hard for anyone to do a daylight "raid"

reply to post by jibeho


yeah man the unimog or any vehicle like would be great to have

solar wind and generators with a rain water collection system

personal favorites for ham commo gear is yaesu,icom icom 7600 and for backup the old yaesu ft-101 vaccum tube hybrid and cb..


liquor cases are a must as well ready made molotov cocktails

reply to post by Cryptonomicon


because the goggles can be used for anything

because the monoculars can be attached to any ar style rifle for night shooting

because the nightvision riflescopes can be used for longer engagement target.

personally i dont want to be sitting in a shtf and sitting there say oh god oh god what didnt i buy that

the famous burt gummer said its better to have it and not need it than to need and not have it

reply to post by neo96

I just think that the financial resources people have could be better spent on things that provide a more tangible and reliable benefit: Food, Water, Energy, Shelter, Guns & Ammo

Those things you will ALWAYS need, the optics may or may not be beneficial. That means that by investing in this optics stuff you are taking a gamble. Survivalists shouldn't be taking gambles.

Thanks for the tent tip, that's comforting (to this guy who plans to hide at night, vs going to get himself killed)....

Originally posted by Cryptonomicon
reply to post by neo96

 

I just think that the financial resources people have could be better spent on things that provide a more tangible and reliable benefit: Food, Water, Energy, Shelter, Guns & Ammo

Those things you will ALWAYS need, the optics may or may not be beneficial. That means that by investing in this optics stuff you are taking a gamble. Survivalists shouldn't be taking gambles.

edit on 9/13/2011 by Cryptonomicon because: (no reason given)

I don't know what those cost did I see "25K"somewhere?
$
That's easily over a decades worth of storable food for two people each device????
for"survival"?

For that money I can hire 3 reallive people to lay in the grass in front of me at 75,50 and 25 yards out . They can yell ("somebody's coming in") when they get stepped on...

All these fancy toys, what extravagant prices too..

By the time I can afford any of this, the world will have either already went to #, or it will be that time in the future where I can trade a doctor in prison a pack of cigarettes for optical eye implants like a certain someone in a certain movie.

reply to post by 46ACE


I'm always using mine which helps justify the cost somewhat. My TI cost 21K. I got it as a manufactures demo a couple years after development so that was a very good price. It was about 40K when it first came out. They have come down a bit more now because of so many companies now producing thermal imagers but if you want something more useful than a toy you will have to dish out a fair chunk of change.

how are people missing the point of this thread?

the basics have been covered in a hundred different threads already

come on people isnt there something that you want to have but just dont have the cash to get it?

how many times do i have to say it.

reply to post by neo96


this one:

As to the afford part the most hard to get met needs are indeed priceless:

Brains: The more you use your head the less stuff you need to really survive

Bible: Some sort of realistic faith in a living God.

Buddies: Trustworthy friends and family to help you survive.

The only exotic "toy" i wanted was a thermal imager that was reasonably portable, for many reasons besides survival....

Originally posted by neo96
nightvision does work on double aa batteries and there is that thing called a faraday cage

i was looking at what hopsitals do now for sheilding for mri machines and their rooms

basically take the batteries out and sheild them the same way a person does for other radios.


sheilding is not impossible but too much disinfo exists on the internet now as to the uses for shtf or wrol

moving in daylight makes one an easy target however when someone moves at night they have that cover and concealment from all those people who say meh who needs nightvsion.

Those faraday cages also block out mind readers.

You cant afford them?

Are you serious?

Do you own a house? If it s so important to you re-mortgage to free up some equity!! (or take out a loan against your property!! As long as your credit is semi ok you can borrow against your house or apt!!

Use your savings....after all YOU are talking about the end of the world.

Cash in your pension early...again...end of the world.

Loads of ways to get that stuff.....if you REALLY want it.

Even trade in your car for a cheaper one or a older model....if your car is less than 3 years old sell and then buy a 6 years old car and use the rest of the cash for the SURVIVAL equipment

What the OP put in his list is fairly cheap compared to what I would like.

I want my own Bunker underground kitted out to survive for two years and a Submarine kitted out the same...for two years. Now that might take more than a simple re-mortgage or whats in my savings.

X-ray goggles,so when i'm entering a building to salvage a crazed man doesnt pop up from around the corner.

The best body armor. I heard a rumor of dragon scale body armor.

A nice automatic rifle,with a nice scope I wouldnt be picky and the finest ammunition,near endless supply.

A well placed bunker,on high grounds. Fitted with auto turret security. Anything that moves would die.

A huge amount of livestock so I would not have to leave my well secured ground.

One grade A water system and part replacements incase it breaks.

A tank with the outer armor plates that change colors to blend in with surroundings,just incase life inside the bunker gets old.

UAV's with surveilance inside the bunker. armed

Im sure theres also tons of technology that my mind cannot begin to imagine,so i will stop there. Also I would probably be taken over in 10 minutes by the military base taht has one piece of technology that over rides everything i have. So,if i pick what i want. No budget,just give me the best tech that cannot be overridden.

Am i the first person that went over a 500 dollar shopping spree at k-mart?

Originally posted by soulenlightenment

What u need is:

1.) Uncommon sense..see most people dont have common sense so it shouldnt be called common but uncommon lol
2.) multiple weapons..some of mass destruction lol
3.) Water Purifier
4.) proteins bars
5.) good boots
6.) night vision is excellent choice! gotta see the zombies coming at night lol jk
7.) bartering items..never forget those!
8.) oh and for me I have to add to my list that I really should find me a survival guy....a girl has to admit that in it doesn't hurt to have the right guy by her side ! I'm independent but dont mind admitting two is better than one especially wtshtf!

This is one of the more sane suggestions I've seen on this thread.

If the SHTF I'm bugging out asap to the desert. Night vision would be great to have mounted to a rifle for hunting at night. What I would be most concerned about is:

1: Water
2: Food
3: Clothing
4: Shelter
5: Medical supplies
6: Communications (radio / 2-way radio / cell / etc...)

If you're at all concerned about the "worst case scenario", then have a plan in place. Prep as much as you can (do you have at least 6 months worth of food and water?). What if there's an EMP strike? Do you have a BOB that you can grab and go? Do you have your important documents backed up somewhere? Do you have a stock of vitamins? Do you have cash on hand? Do you have barter items (gold / alcohol / coffee / medication / etc...)? Are you armed?

If you're bugging out, check out the following books:

SAS Survival Handbook by John 'lofty' Wiseman
U.S. Air Force Survival Handbook (ISBN-10: 1602392455)

Keep your vehicle gassed up. Keep a supply of extra gas at home. Cycle though your gasoline stocks.

Overreacting? Perhaps. But given last week's complete power outage of the entire Southern California area, it's obvious how easy it would be to disrupt society enough to break it down completely. I'd rather be prepared and never have to use it than be sitting on my thumbs when push comes to shove.

Prepping doesn't come easy. It takes many months to have the basics covered. My advice is to start gathering supplies as soon as possible. Buy a few extra cans of soup every time you go to the store. Stock up on dry goods. Get a 5 gallon container of water. One step at a time, and eventually you'll be ready to hunker down or bug out if required.

Oh...and get a membership to Costco. They stock some great long-term food solutions, and they're amazingly cheap compared to your local grocery store. I can't recommend Costco enough!

my supplies are:

A comfy chair

A hillside with a beautiful view

Last but not least a glass of orange juice


With the only thought in my mind "There is no place like home"

In a survival situation you don't need night vision - you need protection against night vision. Same with the thermal imaging. You will not ( or should not) be the aggressor stalking prey. You need to assume there wont be any way to recharge batteries. If that's the case, it wont do you much good unless you have generators which will give your position away anyway. Common folk trying to survive need to stay well hidden from electronic prying eyes - or in large groups banded together.

I suggest everyone here watch the TV series The Colony, because that's the life you will be faced with. Seems folks don't have a realistic idea of what they will be facing or what they will need when TSHTF.

Horses and the knowledge to work them.
A non electric sewing machine
Woodworking tools,
The ability to solve a problem.

well honestly the key to survival is to just hang out back in a building or cave with an overlooking view and with a suppressed 38, 380,45 or 22 subsonic, shoot the retards that are sneaking around with that fancy equipment and ur set if ur really smart you can go where you know where the gear is and just wait until the retards break them out. then collect them up......ARRRRR MATEES