Anyone else watching the CNN Rep. Debate with me in a few minutes?

Originally posted by macaronicaesar
One thing I see coming out of it that is a positive though, that is more and more of the other candidates are leaning towards Paul on some of the key issues, but being realistic, the only person who can help, really has no chance and that has me completely saddened.

No chance? Why would you parrot the very propaganda that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy? Get out, spread the word, READ UP about Dr. Paul's real positions, and speak directly to your family and friends. If you have questions about his positions on an issue, send me a U2U, I'll direct you to the answer. Encourage everybody who wants to take this country back to register as a republican, and even try to become a delegate. If we don't get the republican nomination, Dr. Paul has the opportunity to run 3rd party but we would vastly prefer to put him head to head against Obama. Don't curl up in the fetal position and give up. Fight harder. They said Reagan had no chance too.

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I always wonder how Osama came to that point of calling us that when we helped him fight the Soviets. I was reading some declassified material about that only the other day, and Afghanistan actually had its own little communist party affiliation. The Soviets ostensibly sent troops to help keep the peace. hahaha on that, but the declassfied material states that Soviet troops lost sight of what their mission really was and they began fighting the very people they were supposed to be protecting. The article also discusses how the Soviet politburo did not know the nature of Islamic culture and did not know anything about guerilla fighting. But the US was Afghanistan's ally though it had to be as a proxy so as not to directly engage against the USSR and provoke a nuclear world war.

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You know the death toll in Iraq is over 1 million now? But they probably love us over there in the ol' middle east.

Originally posted by 27jd

Originally posted by macaronicaesar
One thing I see coming out of it that is a positive though, that is more and more of the other candidates are leaning towards Paul on some of the key issues, but being realistic, the only person who can help, really has no chance and that has me completely saddened.

No chance? Why would you parrot the very propaganda that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy? Get out, spread the word, READ UP about Dr. Paul's real positions, and speak directly to your family and friends. If you have questions about his positions on an issue, send me a U2U, I'll direct you to the answer. Encourage everybody who wants to take this country back to register as a republican, and even try to become a delegate. If we don't get the republican nomination, Dr. Paul has the opportunity to run 3rd party but we would vastly prefer to put him head to head against Obama. Don't curl up in the fetal position and give up. Fight harder. They said Reagan had no chance too.

Oh, I soooo agree with you on this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I give Bachmann a nod for her position on this issue. It's the same as Ron Paul's though, and hers is much different than his on most of the other issues that are important to me, and IMO this nation. I will say I like her better than Perry or Romney, but she's an establishment candidate and I will not vote for anymore establishment candidates (even establishment light).

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If you really want to know of the United State's involvement in Afghanistan and their fighting the Soviets, you need to read Charlie Wilson's War. Very informative, all Americans should read it, it is amazing what goes on behind the taxpayer's backs with out them knowing.

Guys, it is a FACT that Paul has made some 'on the fence' voters go the other way (for now) and pissed off the already Paul haters but let me tell you this, he got A LOT of people thinking and probably got more people to lean towards him than people who went the other way.

His foreign policy wasn't a favorable situation but it wasn't bad.

Things are looking better for us and I'm thinking we'll get better poll numbers from now on.

The revolution is on!

Originally posted by 27jd
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I give Bachmann a nod for her position on this issue. It's the same as Ron Paul's though, and hers is much different than his on most of the other issues that are important to me, and IMO this nation. I will say I like her better than Perry or Romney, but she's an establishment candidate and I will not vote for anymore establishment candidates (even establishment light).

I appreciate what you are saying. Ron Paul is really the only non-establishment candidate and the only one who sees through the lens of truly understanding the NWO encroachment in all the various forms.

I think Obama's biggest problem was not focusing on the economy as soon as he got into office. He started doing all these other things, and then basically got lost in the political void, with a bunch of ambitions floating around but no real support in the whole of congress. He probably shouldve taken more advice from Clinton with regards to how to get things passed and drum up support. And unfortunately, now if he tried to close Gitmo and bring the troops home there might be more support for it, as American support for war is dwindling. But back in 2008 we were still brainwashed, I voted McCain even though I knew he was going to be as bad as bush. I could only hope he croaked and SP took his place lol. Now I am enlightened that the majority of politics is paid for by some big interest or another, and a voting record is very important. We need to get more constitutionalists in the congress, the courts and the white house, regardless of party. Preferably Libertarians

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Obamas problem was not focusing on the economy. It was the way he focused ie biallouts stimulus backroom deals and entitlement spending plus the takeovers of the auto industry and financial sector, takeover of the healthcare industry and ruination of the oil industry.


All in all pretty cr*99y!

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Truth be told my brother.

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NJ Governor Chris Christi will throw his sizeable hat in the ring before year end and win the 2012 Republican nomination.

Book it.

Originally posted by 27jd

Originally posted by macaronicaesar
One thing I see coming out of it that is a positive though, that is more and more of the other candidates are leaning towards Paul on some of the key issues, but being realistic, the only person who can help, really has no chance and that has me completely saddened.

No chance? Why would you parrot the very propaganda that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy? Get out, spread the word, READ UP about Dr. Paul's real positions, and speak directly to your family and friends. If you have questions about his positions on an issue, send me a U2U, I'll direct you to the answer. Encourage everybody who wants to take this country back to register as a republican, and even try to become a delegate. If we don't get the republican nomination, Dr. Paul has the opportunity to run 3rd party but we would vastly prefer to put him head to head against Obama. Don't curl up in the fetal position and give up. Fight harder. They said Reagan had no chance too.

Listen, this all sounds good in theory. I have studied Ron Paul extensively and he is on the right side of nearly every issue, nothing stands out that I can remember disagreeing with him on, however, the media, TPTB won't let it happen. I've watched CNN today and the smear campaign against Mr Paul is full steam ahead. I don't see how we can overcome this. I've already shown many of my family his videos and directed them to his website, but his obstacles are real and nearly impossible to overcome. I think even if he did win they'd cook something up to prevent him from ever taking office (rigging machines, miscounting, throwing votes away, whatever). I'm not giving up on him, he has my support no matter what, but the odds are stacked against him, and it's really getting on my nerves how ignorant most people are.

Originally posted by smarterthanyou
I think Obama's biggest problem was not focusing on the economy as soon as he got into office. He started doing all these other things, and then basically got lost in the political void, with a bunch of ambitions floating around but no real support in the whole of congress. He probably shouldve taken more advice from Clinton with regards to how to get things passed and drum up support. And unfortunately, now if he tried to close Gitmo and bring the troops home there might be more support for it, as American support for war is dwindling. But back in 2008 we were still brainwashed, I voted McCain even though I knew he was going to be as bad as bush. I could only hope he croaked and SP took his place lol. Now I am enlightened that the majority of politics is paid for by some big interest or another, and a voting record is very important. We need to get more constitutionalists in the congress, the courts and the white house, regardless of party. Preferably Libertarians

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edit on 9/13/2011 by smarterthanyou because: ugh im horrible today

I hope you're kidding about SP.

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His support is growing daily. The establishment's power is rooted in the ability to fool the people, but people aren't being fooled anymore. I'm extremely optimistic, and I appreciate your support for Dr. Paul.

Originally posted by 27jd
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His support is growing daily. The establishment's power is rooted in the ability to fool the people, but people aren't being fooled anymore. I'm extremely optimistic, and I appreciate your support for Dr. Paul.

Yes your right Ron Paul is growing more support then in 2008, back then i even knew Ron Paul had no chance to win, but for next year well depends if he doesnt win then the reality is that evbery election is stagted by the elites, and i will be my money that John McCain will be relected in 2012 again

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by 27jd

Originally posted by macaronicaesar
One thing I see coming out of it that is a positive though, that is more and more of the other candidates are leaning towards Paul on some of the key issues, but being realistic, the only person who can help, really has no chance and that has me completely saddened.

No chance? Why would you parrot the very propaganda that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy? Get out, spread the word, READ UP about Dr. Paul's real positions, and speak directly to your family and friends. If you have questions about his positions on an issue, send me a U2U, I'll direct you to the answer. Encourage everybody who wants to take this country back to register as a republican, and even try to become a delegate. If we don't get the republican nomination, Dr. Paul has the opportunity to run 3rd party but we would vastly prefer to put him head to head against Obama. Don't curl up in the fetal position and give up. Fight harder. They said Reagan had no chance too.

Oh, I soooo agree with you on this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Second that! I am getting tired of the defeatist attitudes from people who still insist on believing what they hear from the MSM.

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Yes it is a fact that almost the entire mainstream media is trying to shove Perry/Romney down our throats and for the most part discount the rest of the candidates what isn't a fact is that they will win primaries and caucuses, Ron Paul still stands a great chance to be a forced to reckon with but WE THE PEOPLE must get off our butts, stop pouting and just keep pushing to make a difference.

I believe this can work if we put our minds together, afterall that is how grassroots efforts function. Ron Paul has more than quadrupled his support since 2008 and has the most dedicated support out of all the candidates, people are waking up everyday, the GOP nomination is within our grasp, we just have to push it until the end.

I see these GOP "debates" for what they are, they are preparing Rick Perry for the final stand against Obama.

They already picked him, they are just making him "tuff" like George W.

How would a Perry\Paul ticket look? Perry to keep the American Idol class happy and Paul to keep what I like to call enlightened people happy. You know, people that seek the truth to keep things right in the world. The American Idol class loves a spectacle, Perry will deliver.