Strange comment from an old guy at a Mason lodge

I'm not in to any of the NWO/Illuminati conspiracies at all, but I thought I'd post this for those of you who are. My father is a relatively high ranking Mason and every now and then he invites us to his meetings when they have breakfast. My brothers and me showed up yesterday to eat and my dad introduced us to a table of older guys who I assume were pretty high ranking Masons.

After introducing us, one of the guys looks me right in the eyes and says to my dad, "They look pretty strong. They might make it". My dad didn't respond at all and I just thought it was a strange comment to make. Maybe he knew something we don't? Then again, maybe he just meant we'll make it at life.

reply to post by Gannicus


Thank you for this.

If i where you i would ask your dad about this, if he is reluctant to divulge any information just keep at it, this could lead somewhere interesting.

Also next time you are having breakfast with these guys, ask them about what their plans is for the future, see how they respond. they probably know something we don´t.

And what have you got to loose?

Be careful.
They might have a piano that needs to be moved...upstairs!

I'm with Neovain. You should definately ask your father about it. Even if he doesn't give a straight answer, his reaction could tell you something.

His follow up question is a good one as well. Ask the Masons about their plans for the future.

My guess? They were simply refering to the possibility of You two becoming Masons yourselves, in the future.

They like to see themselves as the more independant and strong minded part of the population, "it takes a certain kind of man".

The ones I have known, in family and friends, had nothing special about them, I thought, except a huge dose of arrogance and illusions of self importance. But that could just be the specific individuals I knew, or just my perception.

In any case, I know they focus upon family ties for admittance, and determinations of a strong willed character.

Originally posted by Bluesma
My guess? They were simply refering to the possibility of You two becoming Masons yourselves, in the future.

They like to see themselves as the more independant and strong minded part of the population, "it takes a certain kind of man".

The ones I have known, in family and friends, had nothing special about them, I thought, except a huge dose of arrogance and illusions of self importance. But that could just be the specific individuals I knew, or just my perception.

In any case, I know they focus upon family ties for admittance, and determinations of a strong willed character.

THis could be. My dad has been trying to get us interested in joining for years. It's just not my kind of thing.

I would ask dad what the man could have meant. I wouldn't let up until I got an answer or studied his facial expression thoroughly.
I'd go back for another breakfast and talk up a storm about your plans for the future....
Say....2013....??!!
But I can mess with peoples mind until I get a good response, I don't know if you're willing to do that. By what you say, its not important to you??
I think you should take an interest in this.
Thank you for posting this.

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It's possible he was referring to initiation. My guess is that your father is recommending you both to join the freemasonry.

I say this because an old guy said something similar to me when one of my best friends who is also a freemason introduced us. There is alot of negative thoughts about the freemasonry which are erroneous. While it is true some members are part of the elites, not everyone in the freemasonry think the same. It is like judging the whole U.S for the bad apples that runs them. I have met honorable freemasons who share their thoughts on what they would like the world to be. And so far none I have met desire any wars and wish for a peaceful world without limitations and greed.

Best of luck

They want you to become a member and they are being intriguingly goofy to try to get you to ask questions and perk your interest.

I'd say it worked just fine. You are now interested in some aspect of masonry. I cannot speak for all lodges, but none of the ones I have sat in have any global control. They are more in control of their kitchen and the degree schedule. Of course I could be wrong and your dad's lodge is the one that pulls the strings, while the rest of us are kept blissfully ignorant.

But if the zombie apocalypse comes within the next week, you should feel obligated to help out the older gentleman you spoke of. (Old dudes cannot kill zombies like young men can)

Take a good man and make him better .
Us older folks have far seeing eyes..that old man sized you up in a heartbeat .
Masons are good people..join up ..its by ivitation only be happy you have your fathers connection

My uncle was a mason..he passed away many years ago..he was a fine upstanding man as are most Masons I have met .

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I had a strange thing happen a few years ago. This guy said he was from some super secret branch of government and said he knew things that would scare the hell out of me and one day it was all going to be exposed and I said do you mean aliens and he only smiled and would not answer. He said I had better arm myself and after that I bought a gun.

have a read of albert pikes 3 world wars he was grand master mason of the united lodge you might find that interesting young un

Originally posted by granpabobby
Take a good man and make him better .
Us older folks have far seeing eyes..that old man sized you up in a heartbeat .
Masons are good people..join up ..its by ivitation only be happy you have your fathers connection

My uncle was a mason..he passed away many years ago..he was a fine upstanding man as are most Masons I have met .

edit on 11-9-2011 by granpabobby because: add content

Just to let you know, anyone can be a mason, you just have to ask. No invitation will be given in most cases. I sincerely hope you weren't waiting for one. It's against the rules to solicit members. The reason for that is to make sure you want to be there and not that someone is forcing you.

And it's never too late. Ask if you need anything.

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Could mean anything. But im sure an Armageddon/revolution/WW3 is coming in our era. Of course TPTB know about it because they planned it. The old mans comment could mean anything your right. What I would take from it is stay in good physical shape and health, sharp mind, and strengthen yourself as an individual to prepare for the upcoming disaster era.

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Ya I agree! Arm yourself and make a SHTF kit. Thats what im currently working on

When I read this thread I was reminded that older Masons, those who are way up there in age speak very differently that our current generation.

What I am trying to say is that often older Masons represent a different and far removed generation than we are accustomed to. It is because of that generational difference that generates a different form of vocabulary that often gets misinterpreted by those of different and more recent generations.

If we know or live around someone elder, we often learn what they mean and also learn the nuances in their terms that show a distinct generational difference. Like "Holy Moly" and so forth.

Anyway what I wanted to add is that to an older generation, especially to Masons, a remark such as "they look strong" " they could make it" is to me an elder person seeing youth and acknowledging that they may have the fortitude to be the type of human being that can start something and stick to it. Someone who wont give up on themselves and will stand true to what is true.

If you start a business, decide to go to college, all of those parts of life require a strength to stick to it and complete it for in other generations you were judged by what you did, not what you said you were going to do for quitters and the lazy are not considered strong to this older generation.

You had to be strong in character, will power and had to be dedicated to finishing what you start. You lived your life in a manner where others could see clearly that you were of good character and had strength of purpose.

The remark about being able to make it is just as one poster stated, being able to survive in a world that demands of us a dedicated and yet disciplined approach to achieving those things in life that we give importance to and finishing what you say you are going to do.

While it is easy to see a cryptic use or perhaps see some other hidden meaning in their use of terms and or what they said, I don't for one second think that any hidden meaning should be attributed to what was said.

They said what they saw with their eyes because they saw youth and did a quick assessment of strength, character and so on. Nothing mystical or esoteric was going on in my humble opinion.

If you are around older Masons long enough you will know without a doubt that those generational differences in how they grew up, how they got to where they got is all compared to what is currently available to those of the younger generations and whether they are taking advantage of such advancements or not.

Too often, many will not have or have been taught or even been exposed to more stringent standards of achievement and success,but to these old timers, they got where they got in essence the hard way, so in their minds I have no doubt the bar is set pretty high because of course haven't you ever heard an old relative talk about how after milking the farm cows, they had to walk in the snow 5 miles to get to school in the dead of winter with no coat?

Well, these elder people still exist and from time to time you will run into them. When you do, just be understanding and if you really want to make friends, ask some questions about the differences in generations and I will bet you will get every Mason in hearing distance to chime in about this or that.

Maybe this helps and maybe it does not, but I hope you don't misjudge generational differences in speak and even thought process of what is important to these older types because you will be very surprised about what they think and to help you find out, like I stated, just ask a generational question and you will be flooded with many versions of an answer and you will begin to hear with your own ears the nuances that make up generational differences.

Hope this helps. Thanks for the thread and thank you for considering my thoughts on this discussion.

Originally posted by jward01
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Could mean anything. But im sure an Armageddon/revolution/WW3 is coming in our era. Of course TPTB know about it because they planned it. The old mans comment could mean anything your right. What I would take from it is stay in good physical shape and health, sharp mind, and strengthen yourself as an individual to prepare for the upcoming disaster era.

don't take my word for it, but......
Pike Manzinni Hoax

Oh man, you should have kept quiet about this...that comment is like giving a 14 year old boy a female escort, a junky a free hit or an alcoholic a bottle of whisky! It does them no good and will encourage their dependance! If this is a joke to make all these guys go 'definitely a level 33 illuminati insider mason who knows the plan for world domination at the behest of tptb' then I am giggling like a school girl!

P.S I REALLY hope that's what you're doing!

Originally posted by Gannicus
I'm not in to any of the NWO/Illuminati conspiracies at all, but I thought I'd post this for those of you who are. My father is a relatively high ranking Mason and every now and then he invites us to his meetings when they have breakfast. My brothers and me showed up yesterday to eat and my dad introduced us to a table of older guys who I assume were pretty high ranking Masons.

After introducing us, one of the guys looks me right in the eyes and says to my dad, "They look pretty strong. They might make it". My dad didn't respond at all and I just thought it was a strange comment to make. Maybe he knew something we don't? Then again, maybe he just meant we'll make it at life.

That comment reminds me of the Guide stones in Ga. Maybe the old guy was saying youd be strong enough to make it to the 500 million that are to survive..

Or it could be just some old guy messing with ya..

why don't you ASK the old guy what he ment.