Could TPTB be planning mass starvation in Houston?

Firstly - my apologies if there has been a thread for this already. I did search, found nothing.


I don't post many threads here. I am very selective on which rumours or theories I want to share. Ususally when I find something interesting, I know if I wait a few days the good folk here at ATS will have it threaded, flagged, discussed, dissed and debunked! That is after all one of the things we do here.
But when visiting a website I have been following off and on for a number of years tonight, the story there really jumped out at me, and made me wonder. It just has a feeling of being believable, and not the sort of wingnut theory one might expect. So I was thinking I would share this story, to see if anyone has heard rumours like this, or has any insight to offer on it. Here is the website:
www.henrymakow.com...
I am sure many of you have come across Henry Makow's site in the past. I do not agree with everything he posts, but it is all interesting stuff, and some of it bears sharing.
The specific post I am referring to is the second story down. Here is the relevant excerpt, the bit that caught my eye:

"The Federal government has recently achieved de facto control of food available for the food pantries of all denominations in the Greater Houston area. I'll explain.

The fellow that runs our food pantry said All the parishes have suddenly run low on food. This was a surprise to us because just a month ago he'd told us that the new central warehouse facility would be bulging with food.

This morning I learned that none other the US Dept of Agriculture set up this new food distribution system. Now that hundreds of church community food banks retired their local storage facilities and arrangements for trucking, the Federal government food hasn't arrived. The huge warehouse way out on the coast is sitting empty.

Bear with my re-cap of the progression of events which has led to all denomination's church food charity being nearly 100% dependent upon the Federal government for food.

Before the 2008 Crash, and Hurricane Ike (2008), Houston and the Galveston Gulf Coast region churches routinely had food and clothing donation drives, and parishioners were used to dropping off food stuffs.

Within the last two years, the food bank committees were sleep walked into this Federal offer to supply food at the lowest cost, distributed from an impressive central warehouse to make it 'easier' on everybody.

Naturally the local networks for storage and trucking gave up their leases, thinking of the money they'd save to put directly to food.

So at last month's meeting, everyone believed Houston will have abundant food on hand for the poor. When I heard his report this morning I was stunned. I hadn't known that the centralized warehouse was Federal."

The writer of this article goes on to speculate about what the end game scenario might be: namely, starvation.

I am interested to hear any thoughts you may have on the subject!
Thanks a lot for reading my thread
Chrissie

reply to post by chrissiel123


A very important thread. Just a few nights ago on the local news here near Springfield mo. a story was told about our local food harvest/ banks.

They said that the local food banks were depleted and did not have enough food to feed the bulging number of people now coming for additional food to feed their families.

What was interesting was how they said that because of waste, they had moved into a new system where the food banks buy at rock bottom prices cases of certain items and that the needy could thn pick out whatever they chose rather than recieving a random supply of whatever everyone else gets which they often did not like or want and that had been reported to either get thrown away or given to neighbors and friends...

Now seems to me that the community food drives were doing a substancial job of feeding the needy until the big changes.

I agree something is up and it may not spell starvation but some form of practice control measures for the uncertain future of America.

reply to post by antar


thanks for replying. You are right, it does sound fishy...to take measures to ensure that food banks have more food, only to find out later that they are almost empty, I wonder what "went wrong". Add to the shortage of food some sort of natural or financial disaster, and I wonder how long before things went critical there, especially as the author mentioned considering how easy it is to pen people in.

S&F.

This is certainly cause for alarm, yet doesn't exactly come as a surprise. We knew it to be only a matter a time before Uncle Sam started rationing food, and with Texas' current, drought, water shall soon follow. I recently read that the police force in NY has been upped due to the 'confirmed' terrorist threat on the 9-11 anniversary, allowing for the police to harass citizens. I know these two states are on opposite sides of the country, but if people loot and riot due to lack of food, it is inevitable for the police force to increase in TX. Does this possibly foreshadow Martial Law?

I wouldn't say mass starvation, but definitely tryna kill some people off.

I once organized a group from my Masjid in southwest Houston to go feed the poor on sundays downtown near the bus station. About 2 months in, we were giving away 500 bagged meals and had multiple distribution locations. 2 months later, we were told we needed a permit to operate a food distribution service. This was conveyed by the HPD.

I ended up moving to Atlanta, so that's kinda fizzed out now. But it did feel like they had a problem with people feeding the poor.

Another person I knew in Houston did a toiletry drive and was only allowed to do 1 distribution. Why regulate the amount of toothbrushes, toothpaste, soap, condoms, and sanitary napkins one gives away to people who NEED them???

It's almost like they were SUPPOSED to be hungry and dirty.

God help us

In America, some of these people can stand to lose a few pounds. It won't kill them. I'm not saying kill the people off one by one but some of these people can skip a meal or two. Some people are already skipping meals, they deal with it without saying a word and some of these people will be crying about their white bread and cheetos.

In the end the people who need food, won't get it and the people who don't need food will have their meals. It always happens.

reply to post by Heartisblack


and some of these people need food, terribly. did you forget about them...?

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
reply to post by Heartisblack

 

and some of these people need food, terribly. did you forget about them...?

No, I haven't forgot. People have been starving in this country and food will be used as means of control.
Either that or people will just leave the country.

You notice how the whole permit thing really kicked off after the economy tanked and cities started looking for revenue. I don't think hungry people really care if food was prepared in a fancy inspected kitchen or someones home. Bologna and bread or sausage and crackers taste great when your hungry. A home cooked meal would be even better.

As far as the food bank centralization mess, I haven't heard of that but it will hurt a lot of families.

I've been considering this one of the biggest threats to life as we know it for about a year. With texas burning next to the rest of the SW and the north half and east flooding destroying countless acres of cropland we are going to feel it. I wonder if it will take months or a couple years? Not to mention thanks to GE (fukishima) and BP (GoM) 2/3's of our seafood can't be trusted. And best yet the other 2 biggest countries (China and Russia) are both in the droughts of the century. Think about how dangerous the complacency of our generations is, only a few million people starved to death in the dust bowl/great depression. This was because 98% of the american population had the knowledge and experience to grow/hunt/preserve food. Now 99% of the people have no clue.

reply to post by Heartisblack


Leave the country? How? If a family is going to a food bank where are they going to get the money needed to leave the country? A person/family isn't always able to relocate when things get rough. Sometimes we are just stuck where we are at and not able to move forwards or back. Also if the food banks arent going to be distributing food a lot of families will be starving, not just going hungry. Here in my area I know of several families ( more than 5 ) that depend on the generosity of the food banks and second harvest to feed their children.

And before anybody starts complaining and saying that the parents need to get a job and support their families, every situation is different. A few houses down the street from my house lives an 84 yr old woman raising her 7 year old great grandson. I find it highly unlikely that anyone is going to be hiring her for any sort of job! She receives no food stamps nor child support from the boys mother since she abandoned him with her and has left for parts unknown. This loving little old woman is raising this boy as best as she can on her social security and has no cash left over after paying her utilities to buy groceries with so she depends on the food bank to supply rice, beans, a 10 pound bag of potatoes, some canned goods and the kindness of her neighbors.

Originally posted by lostsock
reply to post by Heartisblack

 

Leave the country? How? If a family is going to a food bank where are they going to get the money needed to leave the country? A person/family isn't always able to relocate when things get rough. Sometimes we are just stuck where we are at and not able to move forwards or back. Also if the food banks arent going to be distributing food a lot of families will be starving, not just going hungry. Here in my area I know of several families ( more than 5 ) that depend on the generosity of the food banks and second harvest to feed their children.

And before anybody starts complaining and saying that the parents need to get a job and support their families, every situation is different. A few houses down the street from my house lives an 84 yr old woman raising her 7 year old great grandson. I find it highly unlikely that anyone is going to be hiring her for any sort of job! She receives no food stamps nor child support from the boys mother since she abandoned him with her and has left for parts unknown. This loving little old woman is raising this boy as best as she can on her social security and has no cash left over after paying her utilities to buy groceries with so she depends on the food bank to supply rice, beans, a 10 pound bag of potatoes, some canned goods and the kindness of her neighbors.

edit on 9-9-2011 by lostsock because: Walk a mile in someone elses shoes before you judge them .

There are barely any jobs or any money, I know that I'm not stupid. The old woman's story is sad but realistically, this is called a Depression
People have been starving, then if you want to help the old woman go help her. Invite her over for dinner, buy a bag of rice, sit it on her doorstep or something, there is nothing to other then sit under the food stamps boat, food pantries or steal if it comes to that.

Realistically, there is nothing you can do. That is fact. As I've been told in my life, if you have nothing to contribute. Stay out of other people's lives. It sounds fishy as hell though, we're in a recession, depression; whatever you want to call it. One, there's no money, two, Texas is in a drought and three, getting a job these days is a joke.

I see several possibilities here, but a few strike me in particular.

One: Due to drought, flood, fire, etc.; the harvest is going to be a LOT leaner than we are being lead to believe, and we are already living off last year's surplus. Hence, preliminary belt-tightening gestures such as this.

Two: It can be chalked up to good old bureaucratic mis-management.

Three: A heinous combination of scenarios one and two.

Don't listen to the bummers, guys, there's a lot you can do. They may have shut down Food Not Bombs and the like, but you can still grow food, and preserve it. You can share seeds and information with your neighbors. Help each other out, and we've all got a better chance of not starving.

reply to post by Heartisblack


The programming is very strong in the US. If the ptb were wisked away, the people would quickly establish the same heartless system.

I think a better solution is if everyone quits working, general strike and kicks them out verbally, but no fighting, and then shares everything they have with everyone, and in the end, establishes only volunteerism for those who can and sharing. It is about the only system that would resemble paradise/heaven, a level on civilization in the cosmos, that was positive and not demonic/negative. And about the only system one would want to raise children in, and could be proud to be a member of. Stay in the heart, and out of the programs.

reply to post by Unity_99


i agree. i think it will take a lot before americans realize it, but the money is the most oppressive tool they have by leaps and bounds. an egalitarian future can never exist with the kind of money we have now. that's how we get food shortages. ha! in this day and age, a food shortage! what a joke.

It isn't a good thing when i read this but all what comes to my mindis;

Houston YOU have a problem.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by Heartisblack

 

The programming is very strong in the US. If the ptb were wisked away, the people would quickly establish the same heartless system.

I think a better solution is if everyone quits working, general strike and kicks them out verbally, but no fighting, and then shares everything they have with everyone, and in the end, establishes only volunteerism for those who can and sharing. It is about the only system that would resemble paradise/heaven, a level on civilization in the cosmos, that was positive and not demonic/negative. And about the only system one would want to raise children in, and could be proud to be a member of. Stay in the heart, and out of the programs.

Do you mean give up currency and go to farming?
I think in a perfect world that might almost work, but with the way people are now i could see nothing but panic and rioting. To go from a currency based economy, to one of no currency but communal sharing, would be good for some people, but it would be a shock to many people. People that like their money, their cars and their toys. Their electricity. Out of country imports. And everytime there was a drought or a frost to harm the crops thre would be rioting and looting! On small scales it may work - small communities of like minded individuals, happy to be living off the grid.
I certainly agree with you, it would be nice to finally see a drastic change for the better.

How many of you know that wealth is purposefully to be spread amongst all nations as per U.N. regulation? Didn't know that? Neither did I until about 2 years ago!!

Check the U.N. Millennium Goals!

Peace,

-AS-

Perhaps the Obama administration actually thinks it is helping these people by creating another bureaucracy, but as we all know, the federal government NEVER makes it 'easier' to do ANYTHING. Anyone who believes that is indeed sleepwalking.

Sounds like another facet of the socialist plan being deployed, and failing miserably.

I live in Houston, and we are currently assisting families affected by the wildfires North and West of us. I can't see how this can be good.