Leahy-Smith America Invents Act Implementation

reply to post by TMJ1972


eh I'd need a source for that.

As for this bill, well good thing I'm not in the inventing business. Guess it's another of a long line of crap laws to be torn down in the future.

Johann Philipp Reis

en.wikipedia.org...

Johann Philipp Reis (January 7, 1834 – January 14, 1874) was a self-taught German scientist and inventor. In 1861, he constructed the first make-and-break telephone, today called the Reis telephone.

en.wikipedia.org...

Credit for the invention of the electric telephone is frequently disputed, and new controversies over the issue have arisen from time to time. As with other influential inventions such as radio, television, the light bulb, and the computer, [color=limegreen]there were several inventors who did pioneering experimental work on voice transmission over a wire and improved on each other's ideas. Innocenzo Manzetti, Antonio Meucci, Johann Philipp Reis, Elisha Gray, Alexander Graham Bell, and Thomas Edison, among others, have all been credited with pioneering work on the telephone. An undisputed fact is that Alexander Graham Bell was the first to be awarded a patent for the electric telephone by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) in March 1876.[2] That first patent by Bell was the master patent of the telephone, from which all other patents for electric telephone devices and features flowed.

The early history of the telephone became and still remains a confusing morass of claims and counterclaims, which were not clarified by the large number of lawsuits that hoped to resolve the patent claims of many individuals and commercial competitors. The Bell and Edison patents, however, were forensically victorious and commercially decisive.

A Hungarian engineer, Tivadar Puskás, quickly invented the telephone switchboard in 1876, which allowed for the formation of telephone exchanges, and eventually networks. [3]

Take yer pik !

reply to post by xuenchen


I understand the question of who invented the telephone is interesting. but it is not the topic. Thanks for the research though.

reply to post by SickeningTruths


Choose wisely?!?! Really, does our vote really make a difference? The government already knows who the next guy is going to be....this whole voting thing is a game! Basically to keep us sheep entertained....and make us feel like with can do something. In reality, they are all just laughing at us, b/c they control it all!!!

Yeah and its not bad enough that over 4,000 energy-related patents have been classified by the USPTO for "national security lol" reasons. The corruption in this government has no limit. We are ruled by our corporate overlords and their peasants in the federal, state, and perhaps even local chapters of government. The New World Order is fighting back, because they realize the general public is starting to wake up out of their trance. Now it is more important than ever to fight back, with force if necessary. I will not stand for tyranny, and neither should you. Our founders would have wanted us to fight clearly unconstitutional laws and enforcement by the criminal military industrial corporate whore complex that this country has become.

I wonder how this will affect land patents.
May be this will make the title to your land more legal.

reply to post by Maxmars

you'll hate me for saying this, but " how american" , first you must look intrinsicaly at your own culture, to understand why this now exists. it's called future proofing for the benifit of american's on the global invention market, so you'll be first every time. i love america, but sometime's your angle on things anger me........

reply to post by Maxmars


Black days!

Originally posted by technologicalsingularity
reply to post by Maxmars

 

you'll hate me for saying this, but " how american" , first you must look intrinsicaly at your own culture, to understand why this now exists. it's called future proofing for the benifit of american's on the global invention market, so you'll be first every time. i love america, but sometime's your angle on things anger me........

No... I don't hate you for saying that.... not at all.

I understand the ostensible 'global invention market,' however, until such time as it is declared that there is no such thing as "national sovereignty" this issue remains an American concern.

And frankly, I disagree that it about future proof.... it's about transfer of wealth... and the benefit of the constitutional amendment end-run is so that "corporate citizens get there first" not inventors themselves.

Since I believe that corporate citizens... especially "transnational" corporate citizens seem to control both the so-call "global" market, and the regulatory and administrative framework, we can be assured that the insistence on "First to file" as opposed to the actual inventor being "First to invent" is a means to secure the intellectual property of non-corporate citizens (Stanford v. Roche)

I am still painstakingly reviewing the details, including the EXCEPTION of financial corporations, specifically BANKS, any further 'crisis' in the industry will be by virtue of this law, on our dime, it will fall on the tax-payers to resolve.

First they took our money, then they took our homes and land, now they want our ideas... so much for "exclusive right" to the fruits of our labor.... even conceptual productivity.

This will cost American jobs, and likely further degrade innovation by hard working citizen-scientists and engineers... but we were foolish to think that anything of value will be overlooked by these Machiavellian captains of industry.

It is difficult to put into words, but I respect that other nations do it differently... but part of what gives me hope is the underlying notion that America has a right to be different. And such changes as potentially paradigm-shifting as this do not belong under cover of the media circus about 9/11 and the political theater (with a peppering of 'reality-productions' for those who indulge in the guilty pleasure.)

There are too many offenses in the institution of this act, effectively a constitutional amendment.... I don't recall being informed of a constitution convention being held... which is one way to change the US constitution; the other is a super-majority.... which is how this went down.... the President does not have to sign this into law.... so I smell a rat.

This is the second time in our history that a super-majority has moved for a change.... the last time was in 1947. This is kind of a big deal, because the Patent BAR exists separately from the BAR. This is a major overhaul of American Jurisprudence... I think the Governors need to make a BIG deal about this. unless they don't care about THEIR constituencies beyond the Party's 'buddies' in the corporate world, which has rapidly overshadowed the world of living human beings.

One of the things that made America great, and can restore her greatness.... Anyone in this country should have the uncontested right to profit exclusively from their own ideas.... if I want "First to file" I'll go to Great Britain... that's where the Banking mother-ship is anyway.


more to come....

And thanks for your feedback... I humbly invite you to continue because this is the most important American issue on the table (albeit hidden under a napkin) at this time. The Patent Office is about to be moved out of the US Budget and into a fiscal independence quite similar to the "quasi-governmental" status of the Federal Reserve Bank, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac.... that gives me the willies.

Sorry, my post was crap! The document disclosure program has been discontinued.

Your first step should be the writer guild or similar. You will need some type of disclosure for a period of one year to be afforded any protection for prior art claims.

This really does suck!

This is interesting:

[Congressional Record Volume 157, Number 44 (Wednesday, March 30, 2011)]
[House]
[Page H2107]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Printing Office [www.gpo.gov]

By Mr. SMITH of Texas:
H.R. 1249.
Congress has the power to enact this legislation pursuant
to the following:
Clause 8 of section 8 of Article I of the Constitution.

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Clause 8, section 8 of Article one is as follows:

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

So this bill seems to directly contradict the enumerated powers of the Constitution based on what the OP is saying. A plain-language reading of clause 8, section 8, of Article one is limited to: securing for limited times. The article doe not grant congress to create a monopoly on the first inventor of a product is the sole beneficiary of that invention. It was designed to allow inventors a reasonable amount of time to benefit from their invention.

Obviously we have been had once again. Now once a person owns a patent they own the product for ever, making us slaves to the patent holder of the material possessions for ever. Since corporations do not keel over and die like normal people this bill guarantees the right of corporations to own the world eventually.

reply to post by ExPostFacto


I love the John Adams quote in your signature....

That kind of thinking is what makes America great...

I am beginning to see the threads of of this new veil they seem to want cast over our eyes.

I predict this will represent a persistent multi-billion dollar transfer of wealth to the banks, from the citizens... and it won't even service our debt. Um... I really think the spirit of the law is being raped by these people before the next president is sworn in... took them forever to agree on everything... but not this.

I am going to inquire again at my local school board why we can't institute true "civics" classes for our younger citizens at least in high school.. they seem for the most part uninformed and oblivious to the world they are stepping in to.

reply to post by Maxmars


You are not alone.

It does feel like they are handing the reins to big business, and I think the whole affair is nothing more than competitive devaluation ( en.wikipedia.org... ) done so that our labor force and exports will be more than competitive on the global market. It started before Bush even with skyrocketing steel prices. There was no real reason other than speculation and the result was inflation. The next real push were the gas hikes and the resulting inflation and weakened dollar. This obviously was not enough and recently we even saw a play at default which had no other purpose than to devaluate the dollar. The dollar’s value is based entirely upon America ability to pay its debts after all.

I keep hearing talk of ending welfare, and even dismantling the EPA. All talk like this has only one real purpose in my mind. Nothing hurts the dollar more than painting a picture that America is headed down the pooper.

I feel we are living in occupied America. I could go on all day about how they encourage companies to ship jobs, or how the encourage registering your company in the Cayman Islands but it is pretty clear to see, and you just need think about it. Even the wars especially with Afghanistan would contribute to a weakened dollar.

This is a Fascist coup, and it has been perpetrated out in the open. Do you think that by limiting Unions rights they may limit everyone’s right to assemble to seek reproach to our grievances? They have the patriot act which enables them to seek out any dissent they deem a threat. I heard a guy say the other day that terrorists could just cross the border at their leisure, and that the cartels are directly affiliated by the heroin trade. If anyone could get terrorists into the country the Cartels could right? Why are the borders not secured? Why are illegal’s rewarded for coming to America?

Am I wrong here? I would love any feedback.

Originally posted by mig691000
reply to post by SickeningTruths

 

Choose wisely?!?! Really, does our vote really make a difference? The government already knows who the next guy is going to be....this whole voting thing is a game! Basically to keep us sheep entertained....and make us feel like with can do something. In reality, they are all just laughing at us, b/c they control it all!!!

I agree, but it still wont stop me from voting. I'm damn proud to display to our Gov who I'm voting for. Let them know I'm not spoon fed there BS from main stream media.


good post tho

reply to post by Donkey_Dean

I think the people that get the drugs here would not want to be involved with anything that would cost them money.However the borders being so easy to cross just invites trouble.If anyone attempts this its most likely cause of pressure from agencies of the usa.

reply to post by Maxmars


There is a dual purpose of my signature. 1) It represents that the citizens could demand social economic system if their prosperity dictated it, and 2) That no matter what type of system we have, it is not supposed to favor any one group or person more then the other. This means that government should be responsive to the peoples needs, that support their life, liberty, and property. Our differences in people of varying political ideologies is not one struck in resentment for the way another person wishes the government to handle affairs. Our differences are fueled by interested parties that get all of us to chose a side, while the owners of the country, in the name of compromise carve out their own niche, placing policy decisions purely in their own favor. The result is neither side is satisfied.

It is for this reason that I support Ron Paul. Who will scale back the control of federal government, and allow the states to experiment with different social programs beneficial for their people. In some cases, states will elect pure capitalism, and other states will build on a social model. We are more united when we have choices. We must recognize that it is no more hypocritical for a libertarian to argue the right to chose their own direction in life, without interference from the others, as it is for a libertarian to argue people wishing engage in social contracts for their own benefit should not be allowed that option. Thus, the establishment has even turned liberty lovers into liberty lovers for self only, without regard to my right to chose to engage in social contracts with others that will benefit me. I do not have to chose a side of an ideology as true freedom recognizes both concepts.

A couple of years ago I quit sharing intellectual property with friends in my business group. Many of us create patentable designs that are needed for our work that wouldn't draw a big enough market to patent. The cost of a patent search and legal fees combined with the funds needed to defend the patent were, before this new law, huge. Now, it's out of the question. I will no longer share any design work. I can't afford to see my design - prototype cost loose it's advantage to any competition. So, I'll design and build for my business alone.

A law like this is not what this country needs in order to pry itself out of the current economy. It will cause creative people to hide their work for fear of loss to a large corporate competitor. No more plant tours. No visits from grad students. No more employees working on projects at home.

The shields are up. It's bad for the guys today, who began small - like Hewlett, Packard, Woz, Jobs, The Varian Brothers, most of Fred Terman's Students - all those folks who began in their home workshops and now have many employees.

I wonder how many lawyers Google has working for them?

reply to post by totoway


This is why the patent laws were only supposed to be protected for a short period of time. If they passed this law that first to patent was the rightful inventor and limited the amount of time the inventor could lock down their invention, this law would pose less of a problem. Our constitution is clear that protection of inventions is not supposed to last forever, and people should be allowed to bring to market another person's idea at cheaper rates. An inventor should get maybe 10 years protection, but after that, the patent should belong to the people to use as they are able. Or to bring to market an invention that has not been in demand for a while.

Originally posted by ExPostFacto
reply to post by totoway

 

This is why the patent laws were only supposed to be protected for a short period of time. If they passed this law that first to patent was the rightful inventor and limited the amount of time the inventor could lock down their invention, this law would pose less of a problem. Our constitution is clear that protection of inventions is not supposed to last forever, and people should be allowed to bring to market another person's idea at cheaper rates. An inventor should get maybe 10 years protection, but after that, the patent should belong to the people to use as they are able. Or to bring to market an invention that has not been in demand for a while.

At the speed our society moves at it needs to be lowered to 5 years of market activity(discount the prep stages so big corps or bankers can't hold it up). That said, I think we are being pushed towards communism.

Look at it from this way: TPTB are old and dieing. Their children for the most part are spoiled, inept failures. The bloodlines of the old bankers, political families and industrial families are all but spent. These people tend to be family sociopaths(meaning outside their family they are sociopaths/psychopaths).

My guess is they are trying to set-up a society where their children won't end up in the gutter after they are gone. Look at how badly big businesses and the corporations are being demonized and are self demonizing. They are going out of their way to tick people off and get noticed.

It is just a hypothesis I have been working on in the back of my brain for a little bit...

reply to post by korathin


It is certainly a possible explanation. I am sure that the elites children are not really capable of keeping the networks working like the old timers have done. Maybe they realize this and are trying to make it easier for their bloodline.