Ohio mom accused of raping 10-month-old son

Originally posted by martianmallow
reply to post by nightstalker78

 

I really didn't see any attempt to justify these acts in any of Manhater's previous posts. Sounded more like speculation on what would possibly drive some sick individual to do these things.

This is a forum for discussion/speculation, right?

Don't get all bent out of shape and twist peoples' words just because you don't like their username.

In her original post she was just pointing out some related cases and it really does seem like some kind of strange new way these pedophiles are going after children. And I do think the 'boyfriend' in this Ohio case should be investigated to make sure this was only the mother's idea.

edit on 9/9/2011 by martianmallow because: (no reason given)

She's justifying it by blaming the boyfriend. Like I said in my post,if this were a man,she'd want him dead.And wouldn't want to look at the other 'facts' .It doesn't matter if the boyfriend wanted her to do it. SHE DID IT. What the bf wanted doesn't matter. He didn't make her do it.And he didn't do it. She did.And that's the facts. Nothing really to discuss dude.

ETA : I didn't say anything about her username haha. Maybe you quoted the wrong person ?

In her original post she was just pointing out some related cases and it really does seem like some kind of strange new way these pedophiles are going after children. And I do think the 'boyfriend' in this Ohio case should be investigated to make sure this was only the mother's idea.

And to this, I do agree. If this woman did it because her ‘boyfriend’ asked her to, then he is also guilty, but for different a reason. This woman did a vile act upon an innocent child knowing the difference between right and wrong.

Personally I am tired of the postpartum depression excuse to defend vile acts that women commit upon their own flesh and blood, whether that be molestation or homicide, postpartum depression is not a reason to commit vile acts.

reply to post by nightstalker78


The boyfriend is guilty of other charges relating to the said incident. The Police are not going to allow him to get off scott free!

reply to post by nightstalker78


Anyone with common sense knows there is no excuse for this type of behavior, be it depression, previous abuse or manipulation by another party. But it is also unwise to block out all other factors just because of the atrocities. In this case, further investigation into the boyfriend's part in this could put another sick individual behind bars.

I think everyone in this thread would agree that this little boy deserves justice to the full extent of the law.

ETA: Also yeah I was referencing another poster about the username thing, my bad.

reply to post by bluemirage5


Show me. I never said the bf should get out of being charged. IF she sent said videos to him,he definatley should be charged with something. But my point was HE didnt molest the kid. She did.

reply to post by howler1369


Yes but unlike a man, who rapes to achieve orgasm, woman like the dating aspect and the build up before sex.
In the case of the female high school teacher, Ill bet anything she wouldn't JUST have sex with the young man. She was in it for the "romance" and emotional interweaving that goes on in a traditional relationship. This woman was not out just to get a high from orgasm (although that was an obvious side benefit to her probably).

I find it hard to believe the woman in this case involving a toddler was out to achieve a high from her orgasm. She had to be helping out a man.
Woman can bang anytime they want just by going out on the street and asking. Even the ugliest woman in the world will find a man to have sex with her and "get her off" if she wants in about 5 minutes. Its just nature. So I find it very hard to believe this woman acted alone.

What a evol pathetic demon to abuse such innocence, unbelievable the ignorance that is expressed here by some. 1 can only pray the mental and physical abuse done isnt long term... SMH

Originally posted by martianmallow
reply to post by nightstalker78

 

Anyone with common sense knows there is no excuse for this type of behavior, be it depression, previous abuse or manipulation by another party. But it is also unwise to block out all other factors just because of the atrocities. In this case, further investigation into the boyfriend's part in this could put another sick individual behind bars.

I think everyone in this thread would agree that this little boy deserves justice to the full extent of the law.

ETA: Also yeah I was referencing another poster about the username thing, my bad.

edit on 9/9/2011 by martianmallow because: (no reason given)

I'm in full agreement with ya there man. I was just pointing out that manhater was putting the blame on the bf. When the article stated the woman was arrested. Obviously if the dude had anything to do with it,he would've been locked up as well.She molested her kid. The bf didn't.

Originally posted by Manhater
reply to post by Freeborn

 

Don't twist what I am saying okay. The psychology aspect mindset is what I am talking about. Not about the man, not about the woman.

I read in the article that she "videotaping the assault and sending the video to her boyfriend in Michigan". Why?

Is that what the boyfriend wanted? Is that what the boyfriend asked for? Did she do it on her own volition? We don't know, we were not there. We do not have all the facts to go on. It's a short article and you can't just make an assumption. Is she mentally ill? Obviously. Something is wrong up in her brain. 10 months old, I am guessing, that there is a post postpartum depression in there. I could be wrong.

But, I am trying to point out, Is that women are the most common sexual abusers and that other factors are in play. Could me a man factor, could be a female factor.

What made her, after 10 months, decide to videotape an assault on her child and send it to her boyfriend? People do sick things for the people they love. When asked. I'm not ruling him out as culpable Because maybe he is. We don't know..

edit on 9-9-2011 by Manhater because: (no reason given)

The article also says she sent the video on the 30th and police arrested her on the 31st. Since the boyfriend was not arrested for being in possession of kiddy porn I would bet that the boyfriend was as disgusted as most of us and turned her ass in!

If you are going to make an assumption, at least make one that has some basis.

Just for the record I am not blasting a paticular user because of their name. It was because “I” perceived they were trying to shift the blame to the “boyfriend”. True this woman may not have done anything like this without the encouragement of this guy, but then again mayhap this was originally the woman’s idea and she may have thought that this guy would like it. His roll should definitely be looked into. Heck maybe this “boyfriend” was the one that turned the video over to the police in the first place.

With some people you never know and there are sick people in this world.

reply to post by nightstalker78


We are not stupid....we know the boyfriend did'nt commit the act but by viewing the video he might as well done. I hope the FBI ransack his home, take his hard drives and thoroughly search his home....which no doubt I'm sure they are going to do if they have'nt already.

Don't come in here whining....."ah but the boyfriend did'nt commit the act, she did!"........HE VIEWED THE VIDEO and most likely passed it on to his paedofile buddies hence how Police managed to break the case.

You don't have to commit a paedofile act to be deemed a paedofile......viewing the material also makes you one unless of course you are part of an FBI/Police special crimes unit investigating these crimes and paedophile rings.

reply to post by bluemirage5

Don't come in here whining....."ah but the boyfriend did'nt commit the act, she did!"........HE VIEWED THE VIDEO and most likely passed it on to his paedofile buddies hence how Police managed to break the case.

How do you know? I believe it is most likely he passed it on to police, in which case he would not be prosecuted for viewing the video.

reply to post by byeluvolk


Instinct has me kill her...right away.
Execute her and send a strong message to prevent this ever happening to another child. No if, ands or buts insanity or life sentences. Firing squad NOW.

Years from now though this child will wonder why he does not have a mother? We will have to admit she was put to death for what she did and that will bring up another trauma for the victim.

What to do in this case is very difficult.
I think worse than death would be 4 walls and bland meals and never see the light of day.
This is what should be done to this mother ...either that or let her swing from a noose in the town square.

I hope the baby is now in the care of new "parents" and will never, ever, find out what happened to him. Some truths should never be known.

reply to post by byeluvolk


I never thought I would be an advocate of stoning but I can see how such a practice would bring relief for the people who are so offended by this as to have been sickened. And if you knew the child or the mother it would be worse for you. I am worse off and physically sickened for having heard it. Imagine the villagers who live nearby. They must be traumatized and as a relief to THEIR need for retribution and revenge stoning would help satisfy in a small way that physical need to hurt this woman for what she has done.

Stoning is the surrounding society not only tell you they hate what you did they are saying exactly how much they hate it and they get to play a part.

It is primitive and abused but only now can I see how it got started. People said THIS WILL NOT BE DONE.
Stoning sent a strong societal message.

Now of course it is misused and I am not advocating it but I see perfectly now where a physical need to participate and a SATISFACTION in executing the punishment can be desirable for many.

reply to post by Thunderheart


People can absolutely be raped by oral sex. Women call it "throat rape". What this sicko did her infant son is beyond all expression. She RAPED him.

This is nasty and hideous and very rare, thankfully, and I am not going to spend any more of my time contemplating it least I be defiled myself.
I've expressed my outrage, and I'm done.
2nd line

To the people blaming the boyfriend, i would have to assume the boyfriend is who turned her in, who else would have?

Also, how the #? Is that even possible? I'm assuming she sucked him off.

Am i the only one who wants to see this video? I know it's sick and all but i am extremely confused as to how she even raped a 10 month old. Not like "omg how could she," but literally what she could have done to the child. I like how in the story it says "It's unclear as to how they were led to the arrest"...Maybe they intercepted the video hurr durr. I dont know why i feel semi-desensitized to this matter..I feel sorry for the child for having such # parents, but I doubt it will remember what even happened..Im sure people will let them know though. "What happened to my mommy?"

The only way this video could have made it to the police or became public is if the 'boyfriend' turned her in.

It was not a full 24hours after she made the video and sent it, that she got busted.

Please think for a minute folks.