Rick Perry Physically Reprimands Ron Paul During Debate

"Damn it man, don't improvise. Stay on script. You're good at this 'revolutionary character', we get it, but tone it down a bit"

There is the caption.

If this really went down, and by the looks of Huntsman's awkward state, this disgusts me.

A man that runs for the office of presidency should not be bullying anybody, it seems that Goliath is pissed off at David for winning round 1.

Hes lucky they were not in Texas or he might have been one of the capital punishment statistics the fans were craving

Originally posted by thegoods724
nice ron paul look like hes about to get a beating, wonder how well ron paul throws it down

extremely well, I guarantee it..

Ron's more of a Bruce Lee type, but that Perry looks like he'd have a hell of a left hook

I've been realizing recently how much the them-against-us mentality still flourishes. While I was growing up I was so protected from it, but it is still very strong in politics, business and elsewhere.

We all know that in family, and in smaller communities, we all have to cooperate and look after each other in order to survive. Everyone has a part to play, and each one is valued for the part they play. If someone screws up really badly or turns criminal he gets spoken to very strongly, or kicked out of the group. Once in a while the locusts, or the tornadoes, or an outlaw gang would sweep through and make life unbearable, kill people, etc. And then our community would either fall, or it would somehow recover.

In government, politics, and business, they deal with criminals, disasters, and threatening situations every single day. And there is a real tendency to lapse into us-versus-them. In such situations it can literally be kill or be killed; shoot and ask questions later. In every religion that I know of you can find stories supporting both approaches to situations. But the great teachers tried to remind us of which approach was saner or "more holy" as they would say.

Crime, and the insanity that goes with it, is very real, and a very real threat to our survival. Every community has tried to protect itself from crime. And particularly to protect the children. Because as we know: Crime has absolutely no respect for children. We have seen this over and over again. The only solution we have ever known has been to encourage our strongest and bravest to train to be warriors and to defend our communities from criminals by fighting and killing them. But we have always been at least dimly aware of the consequences of doing this: Our warriors tend to become morally broken. They get infected by the same spiritual poison that has infected the criminals. This has always been a huge problem for us.

As we developed better and better weapons to kill criminals with, they in turn stole them from us and turned them against us. It is so bad now that the average person could see no way to win a fight with a well-armed criminal. And since the weapons they use are really much too deadly, they are illegal for honest citizens to possess, too.

This situation has brought us to the point where higher spiritual knowledge and ability is the only weapon we have left that might be effective against the continued spread of terror by insane criminals. And so various individuals who still care enough have grabbed onto various spiritual solutions that made the most sense to them from their own viewpoint.

I don't know Perry that well, but he seems to be in the camp that believes that insanity and criminality are basically the result of a loss of faith that can occur when one is taken over by the devil. "Sensible" people laugh at this idea. But it is closer to the truth than many other more "sensible" (and totally unworkable) ideas about the subject. Unfortunately, insane criminals can learn how to sound "sensible." This has always been one of their most potent weapons and they are using it now everywhere and all the time.

Exorcism is a very crude technology for dealing with criminal insanity. But I have seen videos of it done and reports that it has been successful. So there are people in the various movements that are supporting Perry that probably really believe that they have found the answer. I doubt he really believes it.

The other Republican candidates that want support from the various Christian movements are probably even less sincere than Perry is. Romney is pushing a "business" approach. While this is "sensible" it dodges the issues that many citizens want to see addressed. I don't know that many of them would agree with Romney that if we just back government off the business community, it will magically start to create jobs. He will get business support for that line, and could win on that basis alone, but I don't know how much popular support he'll get.

That leaves Paul. I would swear he sometimes acts like Jesus is standing right next to him. And I'm not a Christian! I'm just talking about his restraint, his level-headed approach to explaining himself, and his apparent interest in the truth.

And that is the one thing that has been losing the most in this world. The truth. It is the spiritual weapon that could save us. It probably won't get Paul elected. But if he continues to push in that direction, instead of worrying about explaining why his ideas are "sensible," he could contribute greatly to the survival of us and our planet.

Originally posted by Tgautier13
reply to post by DAVID64

 

Ron Paul could have came up with a better rebuttal though.

Right after Perry brings up the letter where Paul speculates on leaving the Republican party, the congressman should of immediately shot back with the fact Rick Perry DID leave the Democratic party and became a Republican.

My thoughts exactly... oh well, a couple more chances. Things are going to get heated

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
This is a little off topic, but as I was looking for what they might have been talking about, I came across a page on the debate and it said this

- Perry won applause from the audience for saying he never struggled with whether any of the inmates executed during his time as governor might have been innocent. As of Wednesday, 234 people have been executed in the 10-plus years that Perry has served as governor of Texas, the highest number of any U.S. governor. The very mention of that statistic drew applause.

How could anyone seriously not consider and struggle with that a bit? Also who applauds execution statistics?
Here is the link, it mentions Perry and Paul at the bottom, but no more information.
www.sacbee.com...

Cause Perry is the devil!
Everything he's done is evil. Forced inoculations, investing in porn, sending the most deathrow inmates to Hell to further build his demonic army. All the while calling himself a Christian. Yup! He's a bad bad man.
Devil in disguise!

Time for those Antichrist threads to start popping up again..

Yes

The man in the forefront of the picture with his hand on the podium was identified as John Baeza, Ron Paul's bodyguard. Why do you guys think he was present?

Originally posted by Tgautier13
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Doesn't Sith Perry know his feeble attempts at Sith Mind Tricks won't work on Jedi Master Paul?
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reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


Sure, they're all sociopaths. Leave it up to a Republican audience to clap whenever the death penalty is mentioned.

It's just another dog-and-pony show and you've been fooled once again if you think anything is going to come out of this.

Ron Paul's views on abortion concern me only because government has no right to tell a woman what she can or cannot do with her body.

Those who strongly advocate something called FREEDOM should keep in mind that freedom is broad, freedom is free (don't listen to the soldiers who say otherwise) and freedom does not discriminate.

reply to post by AstroBuzz


I don't know what's sadder.

Rick Perry or the messianic adoration for Ron Paul on ATS.

It happened with Obama in 2008 and now it's happening with Ron Paul in 2011.

Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by GogoVicMorrow

 

Sure, they're all sociopaths. Leave it up to a Republican audience to clap whenever the death penalty is mentioned.

Ron Paul's views on abortion concern me only because government has no right to tell a woman what she can or cannot do with her body.

So you're NOT ok with the death penalty unless it means killing defensless babies?

That's twisted...

I'm not ok with the death penalty or banning abortion.

I'm not ok with sending people off to fight pointless wars.

I'm not ok with religion interfering with the freedom of the people (hence all the anti-gay, anti-abortion, xenophobic Christian muck).

Any other words you'd like to try and put in my mouth? I swear, I've entered the twilight zone, not ATS.

Originally posted by The Sword
I'm not ok with the death penalty or banning abortion.
Any other words you'd like to try and put in my mouth? I swear, I've entered the twilight zone, not ATS.

You're AGAINST the death penelaty for sadistic murderers.

You're FOR abortion. Abortion = murder of a child.

I think you ARE living in the Twilight Zone. I WIN!

Now back on topic...

Originally posted by The Sword
I'm not ok with the death penalty or banning abortion.

I'm not ok with sending people off to fight pointless wars.

I'm not ok with religion interfering with the freedom of the people (hence all the anti-gay, anti-abortion, xenophobic Christian muck).

Any other words you'd like to try and put in my mouth? I swear, I've entered the twilight zone, not ATS.

I was kinda with you until you went all mucky. At that point, it occured to me that your giving the sick so called Muslim's who have indeed been seen seeking others heads in Jihad fashion and are making young girls lives a living nightmare, no mention whatsoever? I think people are being played like fiddles. If we simply apply Christ's greatest commandment of love they neighbor as you would love yourself. I think you do that even if your a Muslim, Semite, Seik, Buddhist, Communist or Athiest, we will all do better. We have to be tolerant and remember "do not to pull the tare or we may damage the wheat".

reply to post by AstroBuzz


Taking life is talking life no matter what side of the aisle you are on, Astro has a point. If you are against taking life, then their really can't be an excepting based purely on convenience

reply to post by bacci0909


I don't think Ron Paul can throw down all that well, but he has some rabid supporters that certainly can! I don't think Perry wants to dodge soda cans and rotten apples at every speaking event, so he better not bully the old man and get caught.

It must be frustrating for the polished orators to have to respond to Paul's direct and clumsy style. He just says exactly what he means, and he says it short, and with facts to support it. How are real politicians supposed to deal with that? They are ill-equipped, this isn't what they learned on ivy league debate teams!

Perry is a thug and a bully. Thank goodness Texas has a rational and decent state Congress, or we'd be down in the pit with other states. We are prosperous in spite of Perry, not because of him.

/TOA

reply to post by Tgautier13


I wouldn't doubt Perry told Paul that his banker buddies that promised to support him, will take him out if he dares goes after the FED.