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Originally posted by FlyingSpaghettiMonster
I had just got back from a morning's temp work at Leeds University. Out of pure coincidence, I was thinking about Manhattan, picturing it in my head. I phoned my Dad just to say hello and how was he. He said 'I'd be better if I hadn't just heard what I heard'. He told me four jumbo jets had been hijacked and one crashed into the WTC. My mind just recoiled from the numbers. One jet I could understand. Four?? Then Dad told me that my twin sister was on holiday in New York. I thought she was still in Canada. Without even thinking I said 'she's OK'. It took a moment to say it, but in that moment I'd done a sort of 'systems check'. I'd sort of looked around inside myself and hadn't seen any flashing red lights. I didn't feel anything wrong had happened to her.
When she finally got in touch by the way, it turns out she'd had dinner with her husband at the Window on the World restaurant, last thing on 10th September, 2001.
I can only imagine that had someone I knew been in them my initial reaction would have been more personal rather than as political as it was.
I have to wonder how joyous you would be if your daughter, loved ones family members died that day. It's easy to sit back and be unemotional over the deaths of people you don't know but just remember, they are someone's loved ones, too.
Originally posted by TerryMcGuire
reply to post by queenofsheba
I can only imagine that had someone I knew been in them my initial reaction would have been more personal rather than as political as it was.
I have to wonder how joyous you would be if your daughter, loved ones family members died that day. It's easy to sit back and be unemotional over the deaths of people you don't know but just remember, they are someone's loved ones, too.
But as it was, I was far removed from the disaster. I had the liberty to evaluate the situation without the impact of empathic sentiment clouding my senses. Once we become caught up in the sweep of emotions brought on by personal trauma, we become more easily led down a road of righteous revenge which is the tool, in my opinion, which is still being used to pluck the strings of our hearts today.
Those who perpetrated 9/11 wanted us to feel compassion for the victims and their families. They wanted to use our empathy and turn it to their own Machiavellian purposes. They were very successful.
Nor would I wish to do so.
Although I agree with what you say above regarding intentions, it does not, in any way, remove the legitamate sentiment of thousands of grieving innocents. .
Originally posted by TerryMcGuire
reply to post by queenofsheba
I can only imagine that had someone I knew been in them my initial reaction would have been more personal rather than as political as it was.
I have to wonder how joyous you would be if your daughter, loved ones family members died that day. It's easy to sit back and be unemotional over the deaths of people you don't know but just remember, they are someone's loved ones, too.
But as it was, I was far removed from the disaster. I had the liberty to evaluate the situation without the impact of empathic sentiment clouding my senses. Once we become caught up in the sweep of emotions brought on by personal trauma, we become more easily led down a road of righteous revenge which is the tool, in my opinion, which is still being used to pluck the strings of our hearts today.
Those who perpetrated 9/11 wanted us to feel compassion for the victims and their families. They wanted to use our empathy and turn it to their own Machiavellian purposes. They were very successful.
Nor would I wish you to change. I am sorry that my words might have suggested to you that I don't.
Originally posted by queenofsheba
Originally posted by TerryMcGuire
reply to post by queenofsheba
I can only imagine that had someone I knew been in them my initial reaction would have been more personal rather than as political as it was.
I have to wonder how joyous you would be if your daughter, loved ones family members died that day. It's easy to sit back and be unemotional over the deaths of people you don't know but just remember, they are someone's loved ones, too.
But as it was, I was far removed from the disaster. I had the liberty to evaluate the situation without the impact of empathic sentiment clouding my senses. Once we become caught up in the sweep of emotions brought on by personal trauma, we become more easily led down a road of righteous revenge which is the tool, in my opinion, which is still being used to pluck the strings of our hearts today.
Those who perpetrated 9/11 wanted us to feel compassion for the victims and their families. They wanted to use our empathy and turn it to their own Machiavellian purposes. They were very successful.
Hey, we all have a right to our opinons. Me, I'm hanging on to my humanity and compassion because without it, I'm no better than those who did the dirty deed. Agree or disagree on who "they" are, I still have empathy for those that died and their surviving family. That's all.