Bush is worse than Hitler?

I appreciate yout nod toward my homeworld. My granddad fought Hitler, and so did my father's older friends.


I don't like Pres Bush either, but:

However, even on the surface these two characters are still way different.
IMHO, of course. Even the propaganda is different.

A headache can come from a hangover or from flu. It's still a headache, but these two things are just way different.

Originally posted by Aelita
Comparing Bush to Hitler desecrates the memories of those who persished in WWII. Hitler had invaded my country and nobody on this list who hadn't lived on the land previously occupied has any idea what it's like. Get a grip.

Entirely correct. This IS what the North Koreans are spouting though.

I realize this may be offensive, for that I appologize.

Originally posted by infinite
I may not like Bush, but comparin him to Hitler is just wrong. Hitler killed millions of people and carried out a genocide campaign against the jews. Bush is nothing like Hitler was and never will be anything like Hitler.

Oh and bush (or any other american prez) has NOT KILLED MILLIONS?! In fact the existance of the US of A is dependent on the Genocide of the Natvie Americans.
So you killed the natives to make space for the monstrosity you call a country and then you pursue a foreign policy to turn the rest of the world into the same genocidal mess.
This means you can easily and with all seriousness compare ANY AMERICAN PRESIDENT with Hitler. Or not ?

I don�t see the resemblance

Corinthas your hate will end up eating you from within, if it hasn't already. I will pray for you to gain wisdom, tolerance and to learn to love.

Originally posted by mwm1331
Corinthas your hate will end up eating you from within, if it hasn't already. I will pray for you to gain wisdom, tolerance and to learn to love.

There is no hate here... distain maybe but not hate.

I can already love thanks, wisdom is coming slowly with age.. wait.. maybe it isn't, who knows.. and tolerance well, I try but my pacience will NOT TOLERATE INJUSTICE AND EVIL.

hitler was way better than bush is at speeches, thats for sure.

Originally posted by deafence#
hitler was way better than bush is at speeches, thats for sure.

Yeah a lot more arm waving than Bush, allthough Mussolini was the master at hand waving!

hitler could move the masses alright, not in a good way though.... bush just "tries" to read his notes correctly.

out of curiousity, has anyone seen the movie MAX? its a possible depiction of how hitler could have possibly not become who he became. interesting indeed.

Bush is no where CLOSE to Hitler. And saying he is just trivialises the horrors the jews lived with during the war.

Originally posted by Ezekial
Bush is no where CLOSE to Hitler. And saying he is just trivialises the horrors the jews lived with during the war.

OK we have to move slightly beyond what bush did in his term in office to include all Presidents of the US (as this is the role he is acting in and is not acting a private individual), then take a look at all the atrocities the US has committed (the time span alone make hitlers killings nothing, as the US/New World has had 500 years to exterminate indginous populations and plunder the rest of the world etc)and i think the comparison is valid don't you?

Originally posted by Corinthas

Originally posted by Ezekial
Bush is no where CLOSE to Hitler. And saying he is just trivialises the horrors the jews lived with during the war.

OK we have to move slightly beyond what bush did in his term in office to include all Presidents of the US (as this is the role he is acting in and is not acting a private individual), then take a look at all the atrocities the US has committed (the time span alone make hitlers killings nothing, as the US/New World has had 500 years to exterminate indginous populations and plunder the rest of the world etc)and i think the comparison is valid don't you?

good point there corinthas. lets see, that includes natives from canada, the US, south america, australia, africa.... on and on.... hitler just did it faster, though i dont think it was as much as this western/european combined effort spread over time.

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Some people focus on the negtive to such an extent that they, blind themselves to all else. In closing your eyes to all sides of a situation yo insure your own ignorance will continue Ad Infinitum

Originally posted by mwm1331
Some people focus on the negtive to such an extent that they, blind themselves to all else. In closing your eyes to all sides of a situation yo insure your own ignorance will continue Ad Infinitum

What else will you lead us blind, or give us a hint something?

This thread is questioning wether the comparison between 'ole Adolf and Dubya is a valid one.
One side says OMG how can you... the other side say easy like this... and now we just hate and are too blind to see some thing but what have we missed, pray tell?
Oh the fact that we are wrong.

Edit:SPELLING ][ *grumble*

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Well, Hitler mainly killed many people because he was at WAR, and invaded many countries in the process, about the jews, he wanted rid of them because they were a drain on the sociaty... but I'll aggree he went too far..

However things about hitler, many miss because they are to busy thinking about the jews, like hitler banned hunting and cruelty to animals, for example he made it so lobsters had to be killed with nicer ways, rather than boil them alive.

Hitler was also not quite right in the head, from the fact he had a piece of shrapnel from a grenade in it head (perhaps)


Now for Bush...

Bush has ruined our enviroment, when he COULD has made some changes but he didnt because it was cheaper to stay with the way he was going, which was cheap fuels like Oil and Coal that damage our enviroment... and then throw what hasnt been used away, into a landfil!

He has also gone to war with other countries... which has caused suffering in those countries he went to, and not just for any reasons, for the WRONG reasons

Bush has also launched a campaign against Terrorists, funny how he will suspect people with a turban and being muslim of being terrorists.


They are practically the same people! They both invade countries and they both attack a religion.

(I am sorry if any of this has caused offence im just telling the truth)

I know its downright stupid and ignorant declaring that Bush is worse than Hitler, but has anyone seen the first episode of the World At War series? (episode 1; A new Germany).

The political similarities between the two a frightningly evident when Hitler was rising to power (especially when Hitler started to "liberate" small countries around his, take away personal freedoms, unite the press into one big battle cry, uniting religion and office etc), go check it out and you will see what people mean when they compare the two.

Originally posted by electric squid carpet
I know its downright stupid and ignorant declaring that Bush is worse than Hitler, but has anyone seen the first episode of the World At War series? (episode 1; A new Germany).

The political similarities between the two a frightningly evident when Hitler was rising to power (especially when Hitler started to "liberate" small countries around his, take away personal freedoms, unite the press into one big battle cry, uniting religion and office etc), go check it out and you will see what people mean when they compare the two.

Right on bro!!

Burning Reichstag = burning WTC ?!?!


[/ Hmmmmm....

Originally posted by Corinthas

Originally posted by Ezekial
Bush is no where CLOSE to Hitler. And saying he is just trivialises the horrors the jews lived with during the war.

OK we have to move slightly beyond what bush did in his term in office to include all Presidents of the US (as this is the role he is acting in and is not acting a private individual), then take a look at all the atrocities the US has committed (the time span alone make hitlers killings nothing, as the US/New World has had 500 years to exterminate indginous populations and plunder the rest of the world etc)and i think the comparison is valid don't you?

Ok, as much as I dislike Bush I have to comment.

First our country is not 500 years old, the plundering of a good deal of the native inhabitance was the result of several countries attempt to claim as much land as possible. This would be the fault of France, the Dutch, the Spanish, Portugise, etc... Thus the violence exibited cannot be attibuted to the current country and it's leaders or people anymore than we can blame Tony Blair or the Queen for the Roman's raping the british isles or their exploites in Germania.

After the creation of this country did we as a nation kill of and relocate the orriginal inhabitance of the land? Absolutly.. was it right? That depends on who you ask, I personaly do not think it was. Are we the only country who has done this?... Australia, Russia, Rome, England, Canada..... humm.. nope if you think about it, it is a very common occurance in the beggining of a country while it establishes it's boarders.

Blaming Bush as being part of our president past for the killing of all the native Americans is like blaming the Queen because Richard went to the Crusaids in the 11th centruy.

Wraith

Good comment wraith.
To me such comparisons are based on utter foolishness.
Connecting dots that have nothing to do with eachother.

One has to keep in mind, when things happened, why they happened and who is actually responsible for them.
When you look closely you will notice how such a comparison only shows a lack of respect to the people that suffered from Hitlers actions, and to the ones that freed Europe from Hitlers grasp. That would be USA and canada.

wraith30
you obviously missed the point about not looking at bush personally but at the role of "US Presidents" as a whole. Wile you are right the Us is not 500 years old, 1492 is when the the mess started (called the new world) and the US IS VERY MUCH THE NEW WORLD. In fact is one of the most active in continuing this colonial enterprize.
Austrailia for example has stated publicly that it wants to take up the same policeman (read bully) role in the pacific region, this is just as bad.
And again Hitler had to do his atrocities in between '33 and '45 where as the New world is still going strong.
Hilter is dead, America and its presidents are still at it! Makes one kinda worse, no?