Harmless soil-dwelling bacteria successfully kill cancer

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


I'm not quite sure how you got that from the article, I couldn't find where it said they were going to use it as a conduit for the "real" cure. Here's what it said in the article, forgive me if I'm wrong, but here's what the article said without any interpreting:

This is a totally natural phenomenon, which requires no fundamental alterations and is exquisitely specific. We can exploit this specificity to kill tumour cells but leave healthy tissue unscathed,"

reply to post by TupacShakur


I hope you're wrong, but sadly I think you're right. Thanks for bringing that thread to my attention. I'd almost forgotten about it, and that's no good. Bookmarked!

reply to post by Droogie


and here's the news report that will air in 2013




seriously though, this sounds amazing, but I've also heard Baking soda and maple syrup will cure types of cancer, makes me wonder just how many cures there already are..

The way I read this is that the bacteria kills off the cancer and thrives there to do so due to lack of oxygen. Once the cancer is gone all that will be left is healthy oxygenated tissue fed by the bloodstream. The dead cells would be removed by the body the same as any other cells which are constantly dying and replaced in the body would be.

It does seem redundant to add to it, but how can the pharmaceutical companies charge for something which you could possibly cultivate yourself? By adding something they can then claim the cure is effected by their addition and charge for it.

The question for me though is could the bacteria mutate quickly once the cancer was gone and then feed on the healthy tissue? I guess that's where the long term tests come into it.

People really need to wake up about diseases!!!!!!!!!!

Diseases are the effect of how we treat our body....

Cancer is a big one, it can be prevented!!! that has been known in the Medical society for decades.....

Eating certein foods daily can reduce your chance by 80%!!!!
Exercise can reduce your chance by 50%
Strict diets can reduce by 30%

Thats 160% chance of reduceing the chance!!!!!!

DRUGS ARE NOT THE CURE TO DISEASES...... THEY ARE TEMPORARY RELIEF WITH EXTREME!!!! SIDE EFFECTS THAT LEAD TO OTHER DISEASES...

the best way to prevent diseases is knowledge.... They dont want you to know you can prevent it all because Medical Drugs is one of the top 3 Biggest money makeing corperations in the world....

If you dont believe me just do some research for yourself... It may be to late for you and I to change the chances, but you can teach your children and friends, then the domino effect takes over and we take back LIFE!!!!

reply to post by lyrc07

DRUGS ARE NOT THE CURE TO DISEASES...... THEY ARE TEMPORARY RELIEF WITH EXTREME!!!! SIDE EFFECTS THAT LEAD TO OTHER DISEASES...

Oh I agree %1000, but you can eat healthy and be active and still come into contact with cancer.

reply to post by Nobama


There have been very Rare cases of that.... you cant just choose to exercise and eat right some of the time and exspect the results as those who diet, exercise and eat the certain foods that boost your immune systems like its a religion..

It also wont cure diseases, most diseases are locked away in your body from a young age and shows itself later.... We need to take care of ourselves from day 1.

Lets say what im saying and have studied for 5yrs is complete bull#.....
Still wouldnt it be better to fight a diseases following my views having you in the best shape possible
then to be unhealthy, popping pills that cause more damage than it helps..

im not saying this would solve it completely, but imagine 50% of humans do this, thats millions of lives saved..... millions of children that would have food instead of us overindulgeing ourselves and feeding the trashcan as mush food as we eat....

I wonder how the bacteria knows which type of cells to kill....

reply to post by lyrc07

"Diseases are the effect of how we treat our body.... Cancer is a big one, it can be prevented!!! that has been known in the Medical society for decades..... Eating certein foods daily can reduce your chance by 80%!!!! Exercise can reduce your chance by 50% Strict diets can reduce by 30% Thats 160% chance of reduceing the chance!!!!!! DRUGS ARE NOT THE CURE TO DISEASES...... THEY ARE TEMPORARY RELIEF WITH EXTREME!!!! SIDE EFFECTS THAT LEAD TO OTHER DISEASES..." - lyrc07

this makes perfect sense to me, humans haven’t had such a disgusting diet and lifestyle for very long and its naive to thing that the body can evolve to cope with this so quickly.

high sugar, fat, salt and oily food mixed with no exercise, modern technologies such as phones, microwaves and everything else is not a healthy combination. not to mention the amount of chemicals we get just walking around or hidden in many products etc..

there’s no doubt that obesity is the simplest 'disease' to fight but people complain like its an unstoppable virus or something! ive always told people 'unless you have actually have a condition (which most dont) changing your lifestyle will almost always make you loose weight. its as simple as eat healthy, drink water, exercise, limit exposure to radiation from phones etc, no processed foods, the list goes on and its really simple as

who knows where people hide these cancer causing chemicals these days?

one thing we know is that world govs. definitely need to support population culling and we can see that this is done in many ways. the modern 'lifestyle' is the prime example.

AND i never openly trust the pharmaceutical companies without first weighing up all the facts of my condition and wether i really need what they tell me
people need to remember, when people make money off medicine...they are going to do everything in their power to make you think you need medicine (and fear is the perfect vehicle for this idea)
CAN YOU EVER TRUST SOMEONE WHOS JUST TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK?
hell no
the human psyche will always take a good idea and pump it all out for personal gain.

a great example is 'mental illness'
the medications put out for these things are a joke, because its to easy to tell someone they have a disease that doesn’t really have a classification.
you cant expect to fix these problems with meds because its to unnatural.
i fort my mental illness with a healthy, active lifestyle and have no doubt that the meds i took for about a month would have completely stopped my ambition to do this.
they dumb you out to reality and make you extremely lazy.

anyway i could go on for ages but i wont.
just gets me so angry the lies and hate that big pharma feed us.

UniverSoul

That was well put....

Reminds me of when my wife was pregnant standing with her belly very close to the microwave and I told her to back away because the rays do escape, she called me crazy and said Microwaves are not harmful.... well she got proved wrong very quickly..

There are so many things we come in contact with, even a simple battery gives off radiation.... yet there are still people who either refuse to believe outta fear, our just dont give a damn about the path we leave for our children... I dont give a damn about myself... I know its to late for me, that doesnt mean its time to give up, it means its time to fight harder..

Cell phones are under attack now for causing tumors in the brain, since someone had the common sense to put 2 and 2 together.... A HUGE spike in tumors in the brain aroung the ears in the last ten years.....hmmm Maybe its the invention thats become so popular in the last ten yrs we hold to our heads, some children hrs a day!!!!!!! This is only gonna get worse with Nano Technology, FREE RADITATION... JUST BREATH

Do the architects of the "fight against cancer" really want a cure to be found?

The argument has been made that "cancer research" is just a way for researchers to raise money. Famously, Linus Pauling argued this.

You can raise more money if you say you are working on curing a dreaded disease. But according to some insider data I've heard, that's not what most of the research is about. Dark stories about cancer research links to genetic engineering were hyped in a 2007 film named "I am Legend."

If you see Hollywood films as a way for the New World Order to brag while laughing at us, then that film is probably the best confirmation we have that this scenario is accurate!

In any case, I have heard of many cancer cures, then not heard about them. While front groups put up fancy sites warning us to be aware of "cancer cure fraud." So at this point, I have no faith that the medical research system as it is currently constituted will get a product.

reply to post by l_e_cox


Of course the individual people are trying to find a cure.... its just they are given the wrong tools and thought patterens to succeed...

If a cure was found tommorrow they would make and anormous amount of cash fast, then barely any after..they would rather make a descent amount for a very long time.

The closest thing we will get to a cure, thats natural and not a drug that has a side effect that gives you another diseases is, implanting how important Diet Exercise and eating the right foods to reduce the chance in children at a young age... Maybe a short class in school... They have Sex-Ed, Why not a class that shows you what foods cause disease and what reduces the chance... and instead of the weak ass manitory gym classes where the teacher dosent even care if you exercise, we have something that benefits our children

reply to post by Droogie


I'm sorry to say but this is likely the last we will ever hear of this like most other cancer breakthroughs,

Once again ATS demonstrates a profound ignorance regarding cancer.

The reason this treatment is being investigated is because it only thrives in oxygen poor regions known to exist in the centre of hard tumours. Therefore, it may be useful in reducing the size of hard tumours.

This is not a cancer cure. Please distinguish hard tumours from cancer.

Ironically a few weeks ago a significant breakthrough was likely announced in the treatment of cancer, but as far as I can tell it was completely ignored by ATS. I certainly didn't see it on the main page.

It will be absolutely hilarious when cancer is cured with drugs sold by a pharmaceutical company developed by real scientists. People will be cured of cancer left, right and centre. But not the people on ATS. They will continue stuffing their face with baking soda, apricot seeds and berries of various kinds and burning holes in their flesh with caustic substances, all of which will not cure them.

There's only one thing cranks are afraid of: pharmaceutical companies with an actual working treatment with FDA approval. It's the greatest threat to their pseudoscientific nonsense and to the contents of their personal bank accounts.

reply to post by lyrc07


think of it this way lyrc..
mobile phone companies etc.. have billions of dollars
if they didnt cause cancer, dont you think they would have research to prove this in about 2 seconds flat?

but instead we get a few inconclusive studys and such..its a joke

this is a good logic that can apply to many things, because lets face it if there were positives we would know about it and they would probably spend a couple of million dollars advertising the fact

reply to post by Droogie


Well, then a cure for cancer is a simple as producing an organism that can only grow and feed in oxygen deficient cells. As the organism grows it dissolves the tumor and, once the tumor is gone, the organism dies due to oxygen present in healthy cells.

You mean it took us all this time to figure this out. How many people had to suffer at the hands of those bastards in the pharmecutical industry that would rather poison us with chemotherapy drugs that erase one's life savings in a matter of a few treatments.

reply to post by smarterthanyou

That one word as mentioned is perfect to describe what's going on: tyranny.

Society is becoming allergic and even hostile to individual or small group evolution.

Evolution is not always good. But that's not grounds to wipe it out!

reply to post by Droogie


Crazy!! It seems that every day some new inexpensive cure, aid, or prevention thing pops up that trumps these multi billionare pharm companies with their synthetic dangerous drugs when theres simple natural and safe alterternatives like what is stated here.

AND i never openly trust the pharmaceutical companies without first weighing up all the facts of my condition and wether i really need what they tell me
people need to remember, when people make money off medicine...they are going to do everything in their power to make you think you need medicine (and fear is the perfect vehicle for this idea)
CAN YOU EVER TRUST SOMEONE WHOS JUST TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK?
hell no
the human psyche will always take a good idea and pump it all out for personal gain.


a great example is 'mental illness'
the medications put out for these things are a joke, because its to easy to tell someone they have a disease that doesn’t really have a classification.
you cant expect to fix these problems with meds because its to unnatural.
i fort my mental illness with a healthy, active lifestyle and have no doubt that the meds i took for about a month would have completely stopped my ambition to do this.
they dumb you out to reality and make you extremely lazy.

I completely agree. These major pharm companies are literally brainwashing america by saying everyone has a mental dieses and you must pop these pills to feel better.

Is it just me or does it seem the quality of life is decreasing if more and more people are needing synthetic feelings over what is real.

Honestly, I feel bad for the people that do have cancer and that surf ATS. Mainly because you come here, bring there hopes up, then kill it when big pharma comes along and says "Nope not happening."

I have a friend who is fighting cancer, and I ALMOST showed this to her, but then realized "wait... this is probably just gonna get thrown away just like all the other cures" so next time just read bout it, if no where in the article it says "Treatments will start (date)" then don't post about it. Just my opinion.

reply to post by neobludragon


neobludragon

There's always hope. I believe that serves its purpose and are at least equally important as the remedy itself. Hope is vastly underestimated. It's helpful to keep a positive frame of mind for someone that's undergoing a hard period in their life, and it really does have an impact at the outcome.