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The HBs say something about a wheat deal and change the subject. Except that the Wheat Deal in question was for about 150 mil, in contemporary money, and the Soviet Space program spent billions.
Originally posted by fastbob72
reply to post by GrassyKnoll
If you believe it was a hoax you have to accept that they fooled the Russians who would have been watching every single move of what was happening or even more incredibly the Russians were part of the hoax.
Really ????
Originally posted by PsykoOps
Yes humans are explorers. However there is only so little one can explore in a barren empty piece of rock and dust. You can send in your own spy sattellite if you care. Meanwhile the people who actually work in the area will keep using equipment they deem necessary for their mission. No point in having 0.0001m / pixel images of dust. Whatever conspiracy theorist believe or don't is irrelevant.
Keep on waiting
That's nice. Do you know if the lander could survive Mount Everest? Do you know the differences between landing on the moon and landing on a mountain?
Originally posted by GrinchNoMore
reply to post by 000063
That tent they have there does not even look like it could handle Mt.Everest.
There's plenty of good pictures, and NASA has publicly published their evidence, including giving out moon rocks to over a hundred countries. That's someone who's either confident in their false story, or they're not trying to hide anything.
You have to admit that alot of weirdness and "nothing to see here, that is why we have no good pictures".
"Better"? "Decent"? Compared to what?
And they somehow knew where they should and could land without TO THIS DAY any decent pics of the area ??
How can you believe that better pictures do not exist of the Moon, and yet we got way better pics of Mars.
"We" did. There was a big, expensive, highly publicized space program to do exactly that. Even sent men up there.
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
Originally posted by PsykoOps
Yes humans are explorers. However there is only so little one can explore in a barren empty piece of rock and dust. You can send in your own spy sattellite if you care. Meanwhile the people who actually work in the area will keep using equipment they deem necessary for their mission. No point in having 0.0001m / pixel images of dust. Whatever conspiracy theorist believe or don't is irrelevant.
Keep on waiting
Why are you so sure ... How can you be so sure.. dust is all there is to find on the Moon?
I find it's an excellent question. We photograph Everything here on earth, we study everything - we study the sands of the Sahara, the glaciers of the north and south poles.. we dig deep beneath them with imaging cameras -
What is there to find but sand or ice? We have learned tons and are still learning about these areas things we did not know.
Seems to me Humans would be doing the same thing on the Moon the closest neighbor we know we can reach relatively easily. The fact that no one seems to have done this over the years is very suspicious.
You've got nothing but supposition.
This tells me it is possible this work is being done and they found something they deem is in our best interests not to know about.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Mine was that Dissident seemed to be arguing that because the JAXA videos were CG, the American videos and photos taken decades earlier were fake. This seems illogical to me.
Originally posted by Illustronic
reply to post by 000063
SELENE images are 10 meters per pixel. The main mission of SELENE was to provide DEM info for 3D projections of the surface terrine landscape. And it's funny you use SELENE image mapping to disprove Apollo photos because they prove quite the opposite. Than images from Apollo landings have to been images FROM THE LUNAR SURFACE.
Read up bucko.
Originally posted by iNkGeEk
What would TPTB gain by faking the moon landing? I never understood that. Isn't the fact that we have shot people into space on multiple occasions enough proof that we would be able to go to the moon? And if the moon landings were faked, how about the Mars Rover? Do you think that was faked too??
So the image isn't even right on that minor detail. Brilliant.
Originally posted by Illustronic
reply to post by 000063
That's where the lunar rover is stored, to be easily deployed. Since it was housed during flight in the 3rd stage, when it was exposed to the vacuum of space it didn't need much protection and money and unnecessary weight is money, and fuel, and more money.
Originally posted by Pervius
history.nasa.gov...
TING....TING....TING.....(oh crap I'm making sound)......"change hands sir".......(hope nobody realizes I'm hitting this stake with the side of a hammer to quit making sound)
Turn up your speakers......how's he creating SOUND on the moon hammering a stake?
2 answers:
--Moon has an atmosphere
--It was filmed where there WAS an atmosphere
Which is it?
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by GrassyKnoll
We still get signals from a probe we left up there.
We landed there to put it there.
Originally posted by theXammux
Alright. it's time to call this game. If you have deicded that ALL evidence is not credible then of course, you'll cry that there's no credible evidence. If you have a deep feeling that the moon landings are a lie, and choose to beleive that over the incredible amounts of evidence to the contrary then that's okay. That doesn't even mean that you are wrong. However, to pretend as though you are logical and looking for something reasonable is just dishonest. You have chosen to discount photos, video, artifacts from the moon, verifable proof of manmade technology on the moon (which you wanted pictures for, despite having already discounted pictures), historical record, eye witness testimony, and rational thought. Then you are intentionally NOT leaving open for the possibility of evidence. In which case you aren't actually looking for anything, just smugly trying to convince others of your personal dogma.
Originally posted by 000063
You're asking why Japanese videos of their probe's landing decades after the American moon landings aren't live?