Do Not Trust Your School

holy shlt. i just thought of something that is the most freaking redicoulas thing in the entire world. our school district has just passed a bill or something that which makes all residents of like the wentzville school district area pay like 2 more bucks on tax every month or somethin i really dont know the exact words or anything. but heres the retarted thing all of the lunch items are like 10 cents more expensive which is stupid because where is all of the money the tax payers are paying going.

10 cents more?! for crappy food? at least get some good food then maybe i'll pay

[edit on 2-9-2004 by Makaveli777back]

Yeah I had heard that the middle school and high school buy me recently changed a few things. The prices on the pop machine for a can of coke went from 50cents to 60 cents and it only takes exact change. And the lunches went from $1.80 for a crappy meal to $2 for the same crappy meal. But the lunches get worse every year. But if theres any thing that anoys me its that at the school its a $1.75 for a bottled water (thats more expensive than before) while at the store I found an even bigger bottle of lemonade for only a $1. Crazy what there doing with prices now a day.

Originally posted by Makaveli777back
10 cents more?! for crappy food? at least get some good food then maybe i'll pay

[edit on 2-9-2004 by Makaveli777back]

yea im not eating food there anymore i get sick everytime i eat school food.

now that the weeks over i must tell you all all the amazing wonderfull things that have happened to me at my fantastic school with the most loving and caring teachers. jp my school sucks it is currupted thats fo sho. i could make an entire topic about all the redicoulas things at my freakin school. this week 2 redicoulas things happened to me.

first- on tuesday we get on the bus then we drive to the middle school to pick up middle schoolers and the rule is on the bus that nobody is allowed to sit on any seat after seat 17. well im sitting there in seat 20 and some middle schooler comes up to me asking to sit with me. well the rule is that no middle schoolers can sit in any seat after 17 so i said "dude go sit up there the back is for the high schoolers" well the f***ing bitch bus driver comes back to my seat and says that nobody on this bus is special and nobody, nobody is allowed to sit alone. she freakin yelled this in my face. so i try to stand up for myself and say " hey its your rule no middle schoolers are allowed to sit in the back" so i get written up with a major referral and kicked off the bus for 10 days. im not going to ride the bus any more ever again though. my friends will drive me now.

second- on thursday i got in trouble for not coming in to make up a math quiz that i missed when i was sick on last friday. so i had to stay after school and make up that quiz. she says that if she isnt there to wait a while for her. so i wait for 20 minutes and she doesnt come. i walk around the school for a while and go back to the classroom and shes not there again. then i go to the office and ask if i can borrow 50 cents to call my mom on a payphone to pick me up. the secretary has the nerve to say this. " i dont have any money......that i can let you have." so then i go to the councillers office because the main desk person in the councillers office is my best friends mom. i ask her if i can borrow 50 cents and she digs around in her purse and says that she only has pennys. thats fine atleast she made an effort. then she offers her phone to me so that i can call my mom. while im calling and explaining to why i stayed after to my mom, i hear Mrs. Patterson (the secretary at the councillers office) say "teachers" quitely but she makes it ovious that shes doesnt like them. 10 minutes later im sitting on a bench outside talking to my friend when the #ing math teacher drives by in her van and says. "dan i forgot come in next week" im like wtf you should give me a freakin A on that test you just wasted an hour of my life you bitch.

sry this is so long if you didnt read all of it i dont blame you, its just a way to get out all of my anger for my school. i seriously need to make my own " DanTodds school" topic i have so many storys about my focking teachers. and #.



[edit on 4-9-2004 by DanTodd]

[edit on 4-9-2004 by DanTodd]

I know how hard school can be man.I've been exspelled from the bus for fighting and i have the courts on my ass for being habitually truant i got a court case on the 16th this month and well it's either 32 days in a crosswinds facility or back to normal its been a bad couple of weeks in florida for me ...lol.i would go into more detail but i'm tired i been up since yesterday waiting for the hurricane to pass and well i prolly won't sleep until it does

Yeah back when I was in 5th grade I had a bad expierience on the bus. Ok I'm sitting next to my friend and were just sitting there silently because theres nothing to talk about. Then all of a sudden at the next stop the bus driver comes back yells at us for talking and seperates us. Now I realize that saying anything won't help especially seeing as this guy acted half deaf. But I'm thinking WTF we weren't even talking Only a few people way up front were whispering other than that it was quiet. So I'm thinking how the hell did we get yelled at for nothing and then I'm thinking even if we were in trouble why would that be a bad thing anyhow. Its a bus full of elementary schools we should be allowed to talk on the bus.

Then I had to get out of class one time to go to the schools gifted club. One of my friends was in it so he went and asked the teacher if the both of us could go. So he specifically tells me that he asked for the both of us. So I get back to that same class the next day and the teacher accuses me of skipping class for not asking. So I tell her that my friend asked here on my behalf and she aproved it. Then she goes on about how either way I should have asked myself. So basically I'm thinking ok you said this was ok yesterday and now your accusing me of cutting class. That makes a lot of sense doesn't it. Anyhow I was forbidden to go to the club for quite a couple of weeks.

Originally posted by cyberdude78
Yeah back when I was in 5th grade I had a bad expierience on the bus. Ok I'm sitting next to my friend and were just sitting there silently because theres nothing to talk about. Then all of a sudden at the next stop the bus driver comes back yells at us for talking and seperates us. Now I realize that saying anything won't help especially seeing as this guy acted half deaf. But I'm thinking WTF we weren't even talking Only a few people way up front were whispering other than that it was quiet. So I'm thinking how the hell did we get yelled at for nothing and then I'm thinking even if we were in trouble why would that be a bad thing anyhow. Its a bus full of elementary schools we should be allowed to talk on the bus.

Then I had to get out of class one time to go to the schools gifted club. One of my friends was in it so he went and asked the teacher if the both of us could go. So he specifically tells me that he asked for the both of us. So I get back to that same class the next day and the teacher accuses me of skipping class for not asking. So I tell her that my friend asked here on my behalf and she aproved it. Then she goes on about how either way I should have asked myself. So basically I'm thinking ok you said this was ok yesterday and now your accusing me of cutting class. That makes a lot of sense doesn't it. Anyhow I was forbidden to go to the club for quite a couple of weeks.

that sucks. reminds me of when i got in trouble because my teacher asked me if a jacket was mine but i didnt think it was mine because it was like 2 sizes to small. like the next day the teacher found my name on the jacket and i got detention. the reason i didnt think it was mine was because i had lost that jacket like 3 years ago and somehow they had just recently found it.

Wow that sucks. So you got in trouble be cause you didn't claim your jacket. Thats a bit strange. Its amazing how teachers in my school system can change the rules without actually letting you know. Reminds me of the time my old choir teacher gave the whole class a detention. The problem is some kids had buses to catch. Now the school gave us assignment notebooks and in them were copies of the school rules. But according to our rules that detention was against school policy. For one thing the parents have to be notified at least 24 hours before the detention. So detentions can't be held the same day as the "crime".

While I know there are many many things that schools could do better, I am a firm believer that school is like most things in that you get out of it what you put in. Its kind of the like the saying about you cant help someone that doesnt want to be. I think a lot of people dont want to be so called helped or become more educated in school.

Well I wouldn't call all of it help. Some teachers don't care whether or not a student fails. But sadly many students don't care enought to put any of their own effort into school.

as for food at my school: $2.25 for a meal that wont fill you up. $3.75 for one that will. Absolutely ridiculous.

But as far as school goes, there are a few people out there who simply arent designed for it. Some would be better off in some trade. But this is a small percentage. The problem lies not in a teachers inability to teach, or a teacher not caring about whether or not a student fails. The problem lies within the student. Every kid i know in my school who is failing has the capability to pass, they simply dont care. Case in point:

The Problem is, Teenagers Dont APPLY THEMSELVES

Its not the teachers who cant teach, but the student.

Granted, many wonder why a kid should stay in school if they wont use any of the information once they get a job. All i can give here is my story. I would LOVE to be a hacker for the CIA. Its something im good at, something that makes me click. But the school doesnt teach me, i teach myself. Ive taught myself everything relating to computers that i use on a day to day basis. Yet, i still go to school because it is a challenge, and i love challenges. As well, you pretty much HAVE to have a degree in order to be a Hacker for the CIA, unless you're like, REALLY leet.

Well, thats my opinion, have at it!

What is the purpose of school? Should kids want to learn in school, and if so, why?

One explanation is to teach people how to be citizens in a democratic society, and that as part of a free society people need to know so much about the world. Another explanation is to teach people skills for a career. However, neither of these are stressed by teachers in schoo, and most of what is taught in school isn't really that helpful in either of these. Job skills are best taught by some sort of apprenticeship or internship in modern terminology, and the citizen thing is best taught by community involvement.

What schools really try to teach is obedience to authority. If that were the only goal, it would probably be doable. Cult leaders, politicians, and others have shown great skill at doing this. However, schools then go on to teach lots of subjects, which really have nothing to do with learning to respect authority. As the teachers are often incompetent in understanding what they are supposed to be teaching, further problems ensue.

The problem is not that it is impossible or even neccessarilly difficult to teach any of these things, it is just schools are inconsistent in purpose. Schools seem to adopt a pieces from totally competing ideologies, which combine to make a mess. Combine this with all the crazy media influences, and what do you expect?

School teachers are not real scholars. Real scholars turn away their students, and will only teach students, who come to them and ask to be taught. Real appreciation of learning cannot be forced. Just telling children to believe something is not the effective. Beliefs are based on identity and reason. Schools create peer groups identities which are reinforced by the media.

Oreos and milk used to cost me 90 cents...now...it's $1.25! OUTRAGEOUS!

OK, I'll get off THAT soapbox, allow me to step onto another...

Down with authority? Teachers just nother form of control? Who ISN'T another form of control? Honestly, I agree that state and federal governments are controlling what is being taught in schools, but they are not controlling what you can do for yourself. If we are interested and motivated enough to cahnge anything, we're going to have to work harder than accepting what is handed to us in a textbook which we will most likely lose and have to pay $48 for.

Really people, youd on't like the fact that they are filtering? DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Learn for yourselves and on your own, the world will not do it for you. And no, we cannot learn by osmosis, I've already tried.

Probably the only reason I have an IQ above 5 is because I read books outside of school. But alas, peer pressure tell children that its not right to learn outside of school. I think most kids would learn outside of school if it weren't for peer pressure. Heres an example of how peer pressure influences the mind: Rap is as many of know a lot of s*#&, but peer pressure tells us rap is cool. Although school has many problems the other students themselves are in most cases a bigger problem than teachers. And student behavior traces back to what they learn when they're young.

An illustration by me

Society of the blind, preparing new blinds.

I've heard that the price of a lunch at my "old" high school was raised to $3. Now thats just for a crappy slice of pizza, milk, and an optional piece of fruit.
I say "old" high school because i dont go there anymore, in fact i cant go there. I was expelled...for pretty much no reason at all.
A teacher said i said some crap and they got me for that. The fact is I didnt say that stuff and i never got to pleede my case!
Before I got expelled i got in trouble for scribling something onto a paper. Something about down with the US, kill everyone. Now mix that in with some of that NWO stuff and I think I found why I've been expelled. They feared me. The NWO saw me as a bump in their road to take over things and as a result...removed me. -UMA

NWO wants us all to be ignorant and dependant. school is lame. zero-tolerance for weaponry of any kind. being physically assaulted is no where near as worse as being verbally abused and emotionally scard. countless measures are taken to insure our paranoia does not get the best of us, yet teachers make no effort to curb the distorted, sickening mindset kids display. you can make a kid feel as though they are the lowest being on the planet, but as soon as that kid turns around knocks some sense into them (litteraly) they are cuffed and escorted to juvi, supspended and or explelled. i see schools as nothing more then brainwashing facilities, policed education. kids see they have no means of lashing out in ways they are accustom to outside of school, they turn their angst and frustration on their peers, belitteling, harping, antagonizing, anything to make themselves feel cool. those who excel in the studies are no better, smug, over confident, pompous, anything to make themselves feel supior to the lesser achievers. the kids who cant be cool, and cant study well, say hellooooo drug world!

First the issue about respecting one's elders.

The way that I see it respect has to be earned by something other than having the astonishing luck to survive. I will quite happily respect a teacher that proves to be intelligent and knowledgeable about thier subject. The opposite is also true, if I feel that the teacher is an idiot and I know more about thier subject than the football coach turned English teacher you're not getting any respect from me. None.

Second issue is slacker parents.

I was never punished when I was little. Not in any way. We didn't have a lot of money so I learned not to ask for things I really would NOT get. It seems to me that there's the option of treating children as children that need structure and discipline or choosing to treat them as equals. When I was growing up and I asked for something my mom couldn't afford she would sit me down and give me a list of the bills for that month compared with the income. (though that was some type of punishment...)

Third issue The Absolute "Punkyness" of this generation i.e. my generation.

We're not. One thing about it is that at 15 I pretty much knew everything that I had to know. I was responsible. I had political opinions, I did community service, I hung out with the nerdy kids, and I had never been in trouble one day of my life. But then I discovered something. I was a second rate adult. I was expected to behave like one, and take on the duties of an adult yet I couldn't walk down the street after 9 pm (city curfew). I could not vote. I could not drive. I couldn't see R rated movies. More importantly I couldn't see independent films because they were NR. I couldn't get a job that paid over 4 dollars per hour. I couldn't have my own bank account. When I got one it had my parent's names first. My dad then overdrew his account and my money was drained to cover it. I now implent the mattress method. I couldn't have a blockbuster card. I couldn't shop over the internet. I was bitter. Very bitter. And bored.

Bored kids are not good. I was floating through the public schools. I decided what the hell I've obviously got no rights to lose so I'm going to have fun...thus the punkyness.

The last issue. My generation can so beat up your generation.

well. yeah. It can. (insert smilie to avert flames)

Originally posted by SirKillallott

Originally posted by DanTodd
they dont allow pliars? then why dont they stop allowing sissors and pens and pencils, they are more dangerous than pliars or any tools. we even use scalples and those really sharp paper cutter thingys in art in the sixth grade. as i can remember 2 people cut themselves.

Exactly. They have already been used as weapons and will continue to be used as them in the school. Immature students see it as "fun" to stab, cut, steal and harm other kids. Some kids even go so far as to look for fights. The sad thing is, it is never delt with and therefore the kids continue to do so unpunished.

[edit on 9/2/2004 by SirKillallott]

What kind of school have you seen this? When you say "In school" you are using too broad of a term. All of the schools I have been to the students have gotten in trouble for everything you named. Stabbing kids, for fun? hmmm.... I don't know many people that would do that.

NEVER DID, NEVER WILL

never trust something like school....